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Post by YDE on Sept 8, 2021 1:50:21 GMT
My second star of the ArchCom team is good ol Mongolian Jebe: The killer of Nobunaga's deadly debuffed victims, a fearsome Mongolian Archerist, known by many to be the first warrior of Mongolia! Such a great general should obviously have an epic pair of abilities. Let's see... armor expert, not bad I suppose, especially for an archer to increase defense, but I'd rather have marshall imo... Alert? That's VERY situational but I suppose it's better than nothing... and, his main ability...! ... Armor EXPERT? Uh.... ET?
All jokes aside, I love the Mongolian archer. He's such a good addition to the roster, but I can't help but wonder about his mediocre ability. If it was armor master, I wouldn't be here, but it's expert. My question is fairly simple. Do you think it's worth spending the medals to upgrade his armor expert to, at least, level 6? Or do you think he'd benefit better from something like the Gunginir or the Mystelain? (apologies for Blüchering the name. .... I'll see myself out) So yeah. worth upgrading it or just using my medals for other members of the team?
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Post by stoic on Sept 8, 2021 2:45:51 GMT
My second star of the ArchCom team is good ol Mongolian Jebe: The killer of Nobunaga's deadly debuffed victims, a fearsome Mongolian Archerist, known by many to be the first warrior of Mongolia! Such a great general should obviously have an epic pair of abilities. Let's see... armor expert, not bad I suppose, especially for an archer to increase defense, but I'd rather have marshall imo... Alert? That's VERY situational but I suppose it's better than nothing... and, his main ability...! ... Armor EXPERT? Uh.... ET? All jokes aside, I love the Mongolian archer. He's such a good addition to the roster, but I can't help but wonder about his mediocre ability. If it was armor master, I wouldn't be here, but it's expert. My question is fairly simple. Do you think it's worth spending the medals to upgrade his armor expert to, at least, level 6? Or do you think he'd benefit better from something like the Gunginir or the Mystelain? (apologies for Blüchering the name. .... I'll see myself out) So yeah. worth upgrading it or just using my medals for other members of the team? has a good experience with using Jebe in the past. |
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Post by YDE on Sept 8, 2021 3:04:42 GMT
stoic, I'll make sure to get his opinion! Cheers
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Post by mayankshadow on Sept 8, 2021 3:05:26 GMT
Well now with 16 gen team jebe is worth. But i dont recommend upgrading his ability before others . I played jebe and he is hell good. But u need to give him something like odin paladin set. I would suggest giving him bottle or aegis so that he can help himself and others equally.
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Post by stoic on Sept 8, 2021 3:19:50 GMT
It is difficult to say whether Jebe can make use of both - his Armor expert skill and a bottle of life, Aegis or any mythological weapon. I would bet it is not an easiest thing to do. But certainly Iron Duke is more qualified than me on this subject. Usually the rule of thumb is: "don't give mythological weapons to aura generals". Simply because it is extremely difficult to activate both. Even with Mobility. |
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Post by YDE on Sept 8, 2021 3:21:00 GMT
mayankshadow , Probably bottle then, though I was thinking of giving the bottle to Saladin when I get him. Definitely bottle would be good on Jebe but I feel like he wouldn't last that long to use it like Genghis can in my main and survive a massive beating and be just fine (as in he can solo Loki fight 1v1). Maybe a damagin AOE weapon would be good on him...
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Post by YDE on Sept 8, 2021 3:24:01 GMT
stoic, Yeah, I 100% agree. Before I restarted a while back and had Attila as my main horse general, my little sibling asked me why I don't use bottle of life on Attila instead of CalvCom. I'm sure you know where I'm going with this. Don't get me wrong, BoL on a horse gen (like Genghis) is way OP but nothing beats a Com boost.
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Post by mayankshadow on Sept 8, 2021 4:07:47 GMT
Then give him thunderer
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Post by mayankshadow on Sept 8, 2021 4:10:43 GMT
Or maybe mylstenin. Yes give him myl. It is better
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Post by Iron Duke on Sept 8, 2021 8:17:03 GMT
It is difficult to say whether Jebe can make use of both - his Armor expert skill and a bottle of life, Aegis or any mythological weapon. I would bet it is not an easiest thing to do. But certainly Iron Duke is more qualified than me on this subject. Usually the rule of thumb is: "don't give mythological weapons to aura generals". Simply because it is extremely difficult to activate both. Even with Mobility. It's a tricky one to say for sure. I have him in my super team with Thunder atm and he's very useful. I don't use his Armour ability, but then it's not really necessary when everyone has max stats and all of the best (non-IAP) kit. He is quite fragile with low stats though so in a normal ArchCom game he needs looking after, and it's certainly possible that he could trigger both Armour & Artefact in some situations - especially with a couple of Commander buffs activated - but it would need some experimenting with to see how often that arises. If you already have him YDE I'd suggest trying it out without upgrading the Armour skill first and see how quickly you can refill his rage, bearing in mind it's active for 3 turns >level 6 of course. |
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Post by mayankshadow on Sept 8, 2021 8:38:49 GMT
I used it(experimantally) and it can hit thunderer and armour almost infinite.
With aegis he is no longer fragile and with myl i was able to activate an armour,use myl, kill 3 gens and use myl two more times in 1 turn (i gave him paladin set and myl) this is quite practical and is good enough. Although to mention this was under 1 comm effect 6*jebe against one of empire levels with 999moves.
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Post by YDE on Sept 8, 2021 14:02:58 GMT
Iron Duke if I'm lucky enough, 1 turn, but average is 2 to 3. I really need a good archcom general. Any ideas? Pach is way to weak and frail to be used effectively. I'm almost in discovery so maybe jhansi? Or maybe Nelson, but that'll be a while.
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Post by mayankshadow on Sept 8, 2021 14:23:05 GMT
Li honzong is better option for now
It is blue
It is cheap
It is cavalry killer
It has comm
It has leader
And it is chinese but not yet fragile so a god general i suppose.
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Post by YDE on Sept 8, 2021 15:41:56 GMT
mayankshadow though he becomes available in industrial age if I remember correctly. I'm definitely getting him, but I need one right now so I suppose jhansi and Nelson
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Post by Iron Duke on Sept 8, 2021 16:02:45 GMT
Iron Duke if I'm lucky enough, 1 turn, but average is 2 to 3. I really need a good archcom general. Any ideas? Pach is way to weak and frail to be used effectively. I'm almost in discovery so maybe jhansi? Or maybe Nelson, but that'll be a while. Ultimately you will want both Nelson & Li for ArchCom, but as to your immediate needs Pachi & Jhansi are your 2 options. I don't see any harm in dumping a few medals into either or both: Pachi will be awakened eventually (although whether it is in time to be useful outside of the Arena remains to be seen), Jhansi comes ready made at 4* and has marginally better stats, and both are useful in Legion mode. |
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