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Post by Michel Ney , Prince of Moscova on Dec 10, 2021 8:25:11 GMT
As title suggest , comment your favourite general during the Napoleonic wars ( 1804 to 1815 ) , and if you want to comment why they are your favourite.
I'll go first , my favourite general of the Napoleonic wars is archduke Charles ( or Karl ) for his ability in reforming the Austrian army after the battles of the third Coalition and this led to his victory over Napoleon at Aspern-Esseling and is regarded as the first man to beat the " ogre" ( though he later got beaten at wagram due to his mistakes in reorganising his corps and created a confusion between ranks )
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 12:03:00 GMT
duke of wellington and admiral nelson
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 19:26:52 GMT
wellesley and nelson defeated nappy
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Post by alexandrvasilevski on Dec 11, 2021 11:25:49 GMT
Desay, Claibert, Lannes, Suvorov, Senyavin, de Tolly, Bluecher, Klausewitz
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Post by John Marston on Dec 11, 2021 12:48:01 GMT
As title suggest , comment your favourite general during the Napoleonic wars ( 1804 to 1815 ) , and if you want to comment why they are your favourite. I'll go first , my favourite general of the Napoleonic wars is archduke Charles ( or Karl ) for his ability in reforming the Austrian army after the battles of the third Coalition and this led to his victory over Napoleon at Aspern-Esseling and is regarded as the first man to beat the " ogre" ( though he later got beaten at wagram due to his mistakes in reorganising his corps and created a confusion between ranks ) Aspern Esseling was more of a draw and Napoleon did manage to retake Vienna later. Davout has to be the best one outside Napoleon himself. He was probably the only general who can plan and make strategies. Lannes is my second because he was inspirational and never made a rash decision. |
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Post by John Marston on Dec 11, 2021 12:50:31 GMT
wellesley and nelson defeated nappy Wellesley was losing Waterloo until Blucher came to rescue. He probably was the best among Allied commanders, but certainly not the best of all. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 18:59:01 GMT
wellesley and nelson defeated nappy Wellesley was losing Waterloo until Blucher came to rescue. He probably was the best among Allied commanders, but certainly not the best of all. there is none like best, the question was favv. so your logic is for the trashbin |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Dec 12, 2021 2:22:49 GMT
As title suggest , comment your favourite general during the Napoleonic wars ( 1804 to 1815 ) , and if you want to comment why they are your favourite. I'll go first , my favourite general of the Napoleonic wars is archduke Charles ( or Karl ) for his ability in reforming the Austrian army after the battles of the third Coalition and this led to his victory over Napoleon at Aspern-Esseling and is regarded as the first man to beat the " ogre" ( though he later got beaten at wagram due to his mistakes in reorganising his corps and created a confusion between ranks ) Aspern Esseling was more of a draw and Napoleon did manage to retake Vienna later. Davout has to be the best one outside Napoleon himself. He was probably the only general who can plan and make strategies. Lannes is my second because he was inspirational and never made a rash decision. Massena and Soult can also command individually. I'd put them above Lannes. |
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Post by thethethe08 on Dec 12, 2021 2:57:22 GMT
Other than Napoleon,
1. Duke of Wellington
2. Archduke Charles
3. Prince Blucher
4. Marshal Davout
5. Marshal Lannes
6. Marshal Berthier
7. Marshal Massena
8. General Kutuzov
9. Crown Prince Bernadotte
10. Admiral Nelson
(note that this is not the greatest to least, it's just in random order)
If we are adding generals that are from the French Revolutionary Wars
1. Alexander Suvorov
2. Jean Moreau
3. General Jourdan
4. General Desaix
5. General Brune
6. Admiral Smith
7. General Kleber
8. General Wurmser
9. One of the pashas and beys of the ottomans, don't know which one is best
10. General Kellerman
I feel like I'm forgetting many people here.
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Post by thethethe08 on Dec 12, 2021 2:58:41 GMT
Honorable mention to Muhammad Ali of Egypt, that guy was badass
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Post by thethethe08 on Dec 12, 2021 3:01:25 GMT
As title suggest , comment your favourite general during the Napoleonic wars ( 1804 to 1815 ) , and if you want to comment why they are your favourite. I'll go first , my favourite general of the Napoleonic wars is archduke Charles ( or Karl ) for his ability in reforming the Austrian army after the battles of the third Coalition and this led to his victory over Napoleon at Aspern-Esseling and is regarded as the first man to beat the " ogre" ( though he later got beaten at wagram due to his mistakes in reorganising his corps and created a confusion between ranks ) Aspern Esseling was more of a draw and Napoleon did manage to retake Vienna later. Davout has to be the best one outside Napoleon himself. He was probably the only general who can plan and make strategies. Lannes is my second because he was inspirational and never made a rash decision. Aspern-essling was more of a draw? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Dec 12, 2021 19:32:52 GMT
Definitely, St. Cyr, Wellington, Kutuzov.
St. Cyr was the best Defensive commander of France. By far. A lot. Crazy awesome. Like Heinrici level. Because Defense is more important than offense, he is IMO the best commander of France.
Kutuzov mastered the art of retreat, and his strategy single-handedly destroyed the most dangerous French army of all time.
Wellington, the conqueror of the world's conqueror. Kicked Suchet's butt in Spain and Nappy's at Waterloo. Pretty much exclusively was grossly outnumbered in his battles, and the greatest defensive mind in history. Ranked as the third best commander behind Napoleon and Caesar, he is...
The only one not to be a gen in EW5. Apart from that, I place him ahead of the other two merely for his emphasis on defensive warfare. In addition, he made a great prime minister.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 20:09:03 GMT
Definitely, St. Cyr, Wellington, Kutuzov. St. Cyr was the best Defensive commander of France. By far. A lot. Crazy awesome. Like Heinrici level. Because Defense is more important than offense, he is IMO the best commander of France. Kutuzov mastered the art of retreat, and his strategy single-handedly destroyed the most dangerous French army of all time. Wellington, the conqueror of the world's conqueror. Kicked Suchet's butt in Spain and Nappy's at Waterloo. Pretty much exclusively was grossly outnumbered in his battles, and the greatest defensive mind in history. Ranked as the third best commander behind Napoleon and Caesar, he is... The only one not to be a gen in EW5. Apart from that, I place him ahead of the other two merely for his emphasis on defensive warfare. In addition, he made a great prime minister. lol, best of the best? discription lacks full of knowledge |
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Post by thethethe08 on Dec 13, 2021 0:48:02 GMT
Definitely, St. Cyr, Wellington, Kutuzov. St. Cyr was the best Defensive commander of France. By far. A lot. Crazy awesome. Like Heinrici level. Because Defense is more important than offense, he is IMO the best commander of France. Kutuzov mastered the art of retreat, and his strategy single-handedly destroyed the most dangerous French army of all time. Wellington, the conqueror of the world's conqueror. Kicked Suchet's butt in Spain and Nappy's at Waterloo. Pretty much exclusively was grossly outnumbered in his battles, and the greatest defensive mind in history. Ranked as the third best commander behind Napoleon and Caesar, he is... The only one not to be a gen in EW5. Apart from that, I place him ahead of the other two merely for his emphasis on defensive warfare. In addition, he made a great prime minister. Forgot St Cyr. he is definitely underrated. Kutuzov, I agree Wellington is the defense god, one has to look at Portugal and Waterloo, he is good at attacking too, Assaye, Salamanca, etc. The only thing is he didn't kick suchet's butt in spain, though he did indirectly forced him to withdraw from Catalonia and Aragon. And the only thing why I know about the Reform Act of 1832 is because Wellington was involved in it. The weird thing is, Napoleon won the most battles, Wellington was second, at least in the Early and Late Modern eras. Fun fact: Former Marshal Soult was chosen to be representative of france for the coronation of queen victoria, then the duke of wellington found him, held his arm and said "I have you at last!" |
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Post by John Marston on Dec 14, 2021 15:01:58 GMT
Wellesley was losing Waterloo until Blucher came to rescue. He probably was the best among Allied commanders, but certainly not the best of all. there is none like best, the question was favv. so your logic is for the trashbin Not really, since you said Wellesley won against Napoleon. |
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