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Post by 6Johnny23 on Jan 27, 2022 15:24:07 GMT
Huo only boasts a good crit rate, and 2/4 of his skills are meh. I got Verc. Sertorius has always been a tempting purchase as the cheapest gold general but his skills are just that bad... it's like paying for an infantry Huo, but cheap. Honestly, I would rather use Ambiorix. Shouldn't I give GF to the furry? Drusus (speed reference for the furry) is way slower than Labienus (reference for Vercy), and infantry speed has never been a big problem for me, which archer speed has. How about Dragon's shield and Pharaoh's Mask for Verc instead for the ultimate tank? Theron of Acragas said to get an admiral, and so I'll get one next. Do you all recommend Cleo or Agrippa (I'm not looking for a hybrid, I'm looking for an admiral)? Cleo seems tankier/stronger but I have heard good things about Agrippa. I think it will go: Cleo/Agrippa > Dragon's Shield (for Vercy) > Golden Spear (for Belisarius) > Art of War (for Pompey, to make use of March more) Any thoughts? GF? Golden Feather? Hmm i more suggest giving it to Vercin as Vercin gonna get damage more often than Mithy the Furry. For Mithy i would say give him Ganjiang sword and de ehhh laurel crown. Admiral i more reccomend Agrippa he has better skill than Cleo tho if can get Both [*looking at you sicilian Decisive battle*] Pharaoh mask ehhh dunno i gave it to my Pomps cuz dunno Huo hmm i rarely got him crit but he still deal heavy damage Verc is also made to be a tank, so the healing point of GF is kinda tuned down. Infantry is faster than archers, and I don't want to sacrifice an item slot for Military Map. I'll get Agrippa when I get to Chapter 10, and then Cleo when I finish all of the previous DBs to Sicily. Huo seems like a bad purchase, with half of his skills being eh. Like Sertorius or Surena. If I need another cavalry general later I'll get him. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 27, 2022 19:53:40 GMT
GF? Golden Feather? Hmm i more suggest giving it to Vercin as Vercin gonna get damage more often than Mithy the Furry. For Mithy i would say give him Ganjiang sword and de ehhh laurel crown. Admiral i more reccomend Agrippa he has better skill than Cleo tho if can get Both [*looking at you sicilian Decisive battle*] Pharaoh mask ehhh dunno i gave it to my Pomps cuz dunno Huo hmm i rarely got him crit but he still deal heavy damage Verc is also made to be a tank, so the healing point of GF is kinda tuned down. Infantry is faster than archers, and I don't want to sacrifice an item slot for Military Map. I'll get Agrippa when I get to Chapter 10, and then Cleo when I finish all of the previous DBs to Sicily. Huo seems like a bad purchase, with half of his skills being eh. Like Sertorius or Surena. If I need another cavalry general later I'll get him. Then I present you Bato. He has the survivability of Vercingetorix and March to boost his speed. His damage won't be Pompey level but after all 8 stars is 8 stars. I bought him because I was stuck between a bunch of SW supporters recommending Vercingetorix to me and March supporters promoting Crassus, and then I turned to Bato who has both. He didn't disappoint me. If you are deploying them on the same unit, the Cleopatra will be a better admiral than Agrippa. Huo and Arminius, after Belisarius came out, is becoming more outdated. Nevertheless they will still be decent cavalry generals. Maybe you can give Commius a try. Of course Antony is there as a speedy yet squishy hard-hitter. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jan 27, 2022 20:16:52 GMT
GF? Golden Feather? Hmm i more suggest giving it to Vercin as Vercin gonna get damage more often than Mithy the Furry. For Mithy i would say give him Ganjiang sword and de ehhh laurel crown. Admiral i more reccomend Agrippa he has better skill than Cleo tho if can get Both [*looking at you sicilian Decisive battle*] Pharaoh mask ehhh dunno i gave it to my Pomps cuz dunno Huo hmm i rarely got him crit but he still deal heavy damage Verc is also made to be a tank, so the healing point of GF is kinda tuned down. Infantry is faster than archers, and I don't want to sacrifice an item slot for Military Map. I'll get Agrippa when I get to Chapter 10, and then Cleo when I finish all of the previous DBs to Sicily. Huo seems like a bad purchase, with half of his skills being eh. Like Sertorius or Surena. If I need another cavalry general later I'll get him. I mean Huo and Sertorious do have both 3 good skills. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Jan 27, 2022 20:18:11 GMT
Verc is also made to be a tank, so the healing point of GF is kinda tuned down. Infantry is faster than archers, and I don't want to sacrifice an item slot for Military Map. I'll get Agrippa when I get to Chapter 10, and then Cleo when I finish all of the previous DBs to Sicily. Huo seems like a bad purchase, with half of his skills being eh. Like Sertorius or Surena. If I need another cavalry general later I'll get him. Then I present you Bato. He has the survivability of Vercingetorix and March to boost his speed. His damage won't be Pompey level but after all 8 stars is 8 stars. I bought him because I was stuck between a bunch of SW supporters recommending Vercingetorix to me and March supporters promoting Crassus, and then I turned to Bato who has both. He didn't disappoint me. If you are deploying them on the same unit, the Cleopatra will be a better admiral than Agrippa. Huo and Arminius, after Belisarius came out, is becoming more outdated. Nevertheless they will still be decent cavalry generals. Maybe you can give Commius a try. Of course Antony is there as a speedy yet squishy hard-hitter. I was actually talking about Mithridates being slow  . I'll check out Bato later. Are there any cases where Agrippa is better at sea? What if I'm not deploying them in the same units, such as Cleo on a Javelineer and Agrippa on a Legionary? I'll definitely get Commius and Antony, but Arminius still looks good to me as 2nd Cavalry. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Jan 27, 2022 20:19:33 GMT
Verc is also made to be a tank, so the healing point of GF is kinda tuned down. Infantry is faster than archers, and I don't want to sacrifice an item slot for Military Map. I'll get Agrippa when I get to Chapter 10, and then Cleo when I finish all of the previous DBs to Sicily. Huo seems like a bad purchase, with half of his skills being eh. Like Sertorius or Surena. If I need another cavalry general later I'll get him. I mean Huo and Sertorious do have both 3 good skills. I'm not the biggest fan of Counterattack. It's meh to me. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jan 27, 2022 20:48:04 GMT
I mean Huo and Sertorious do have both 3 good skills. I'm not the biggest fan of Counterattack. It's meh to me. I personally like it, Sertorious' best skill imo. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jan 28, 2022 0:42:51 GMT
I'm not the biggest fan of Counterattack. It's meh to me. I personally like it, Sertorious' best skill imo. I is like Jungle Fighting at all times. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Jan 28, 2022 5:39:17 GMT
I'm not the biggest fan of Counterattack. It's meh to me. I personally like it, Sertorious' best skill imo. Better than Intercept and Siege? Siege seems good for Hero Legends (for those 3 cities missions with 2 goblins, 1 mammoth, and Hannibal fighting you, and you only can have 2 generals deployed) and Expedition. Then again, Crassus exists. Intercept is good, because fighting Javelin generals in general is extremely annoying. Archers pack a punch and have ~3 stacks when starting all of the time. But then again, Burebista and Labienus are right there. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jan 28, 2022 6:04:08 GMT
I personally like it, Sertorious' best skill imo. Better than Intercept and Siege? Siege seems good for Hero Legends (for those 3 cities missions with 2 goblins, 1 mammoth, and Hannibal fighting you, and you only can have 2 generals deployed) and Expedition. Then again, Crassus exists. Intercept is good, because fighting Javelin generals in general is extremely annoying. Archers pack a punch and have ~3 stacks when starting all of the time. But then again, Burebista and Labienus are right there. True, but counterattack works regardless of the terrain on infantry, cavalry, archers and -in some situations - on cities. Edit: Doesn't work against archerd lol. |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Jan 28, 2022 8:18:12 GMT
I mean Huo and Sertorious do have both 3 good skills. I'm not the biggest fan of Counterattack. It's meh to me. It's strange to me that you don't like Counterattack. It's useful in all situations regardless of terrain, and can trigger potentially several times per turn, especially if you capture a city and then have to defend it. Worth more than JF in my opinion. Raid is kind of meh, but then Huo is at best your third cavalry general so you may not maintain as much strength as for Commander and Belisarius so it can still be useful, also for DBs. I've been won over to the Arminius camp because nine stars is hard to beat, but I don't understand hating on Huo. |
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Post by 曹操 on Jan 28, 2022 10:01:45 GMT
I'm not the biggest fan of Counterattack. It's meh to me. It's strange to me that you don't like Counterattack. It's useful in all situations regardless of terrain, and can trigger potentially several times per turn, especially if you capture a city and then have to defend it. Worth more than JF in my opinion. Raid is kind of meh, but then Huo is at best your third cavalry general so you may not maintain as much strength as for Commander and Belisarius so it can still be useful, also for DBs. I've been won over to the Arminius camp because nine stars is hard to beat, but I don't understand hating on Huo. Raid can be useful sometimes especially on situation where money is dire ToI of GC:R can be useful but at same time can be useless also |
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Post by 曹操 on Jan 28, 2022 10:05:37 GMT
Verc is also made to be a tank, so the healing point of GF is kinda tuned down. Infantry is faster than archers, and I don't want to sacrifice an item slot for Military Map. I'll get Agrippa when I get to Chapter 10, and then Cleo when I finish all of the previous DBs to Sicily. Huo seems like a bad purchase, with half of his skills being eh. Like Sertorius or Surena. If I need another cavalry general later I'll get him. Then I present you Bato. He has the survivability of Vercingetorix and March to boost his speed. His damage won't be Pompey level but after all 8 stars is 8 stars. I bought him because I was stuck between a bunch of SW supporters recommending Vercingetorix to me and March supporters promoting Crassus, and then I turned to Bato who has both. He didn't disappoint me. If you are deploying them on the same unit, the Cleopatra will be a better admiral than Agrippa. Huo and Arminius, after Belisarius came out, is becoming more outdated. Nevertheless they will still be decent cavalry generals. Maybe you can give Commius a try. Of course Antony is there as a speedy yet squishy hard-hitter. Crassus only good to crack city other than that dunno sure mobility good but damage bad. Vercin thats why i reccomend giving him Golden Feather (this for lil bit of healing) or Art of War (this to boost damage) Bato hmmm imo have same damage as Pompey tho. Damage quite good but Vercin still better |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jan 28, 2022 14:40:50 GMT
It's strange to me that you don't like Counterattack. It's useful in all situations regardless of terrain, and can trigger potentially several times per turn, especially if you capture a city and then have to defend it. Worth more than JF in my opinion. Raid is kind of meh, but then Huo is at best your third cavalry general so you may not maintain as much strength as for Commander and Belisarius so it can still be useful, also for DBs. I've been won over to the Arminius camp because nine stars is hard to beat, but I don't understand hating on Huo. Raid can be useful sometimes especially on situation where money is dire ToI of GC:R can be useful but at same time can be useless also Especially if Huo is your 3rd cavalry and you prioritise replenishing Commander and Belisarius rather than Huo. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Jan 28, 2022 15:00:05 GMT
I'm not the biggest fan of Counterattack. It's meh to me. It's strange to me that you don't like Counterattack. It's useful in all situations regardless of terrain, and can trigger potentially several times per turn, especially if you capture a city and then have to defend it. Worth more than JF in my opinion. Raid is kind of meh, but then Huo is at best your third cavalry general so you may not maintain as much strength as for Commander and Belisarius so it can still be useful, also for DBs. I've been won over to the Arminius camp because nine stars is hard to beat, but I don't understand hating on Huo. It reminds me too much of ToI in WC4 (a skill that I loathe, I even made a thread about it). You will inevitably be attacked, but I don't like the idea of a skill working solely on taking hits. It does hit hard, though, and works, as you said, pretty much anytime, everywhere. |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Jan 28, 2022 19:05:47 GMT
Then I present you Bato. He has the survivability of Vercingetorix and March to boost his speed. His damage won't be Pompey level but after all 8 stars is 8 stars. I bought him because I was stuck between a bunch of SW supporters recommending Vercingetorix to me and March supporters promoting Crassus, and then I turned to Bato who has both. He didn't disappoint me. If you are deploying them on the same unit, the Cleopatra will be a better admiral than Agrippa. Huo and Arminius, after Belisarius came out, is becoming more outdated. Nevertheless they will still be decent cavalry generals. Maybe you can give Commius a try. Of course Antony is there as a speedy yet squishy hard-hitter. Crassus only good to crack city other than that dunno sure mobility good but damage bad. Vercin thats why i reccomend giving him Golden Feather (this for lil bit of healing) or Art of War (this to boost damage) Bato hmmm imo have same damage as Pompey tho. Damage quite good but Vercin still better Pompey's talent gives him +10% crit chance, plus PF is very easy to use for +20 damage with banner. He has objectively better damage than Bato, plus Infantry Commander for multiple attacks. |
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