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Post by torvestareborn on Feb 27, 2022 23:56:32 GMT
easiest way is to just buy richard and then farm gold with conquests, use that gold to buy units from shop and break them into souls of war. Also use the units you get from recruitment while rerolling for varangians. Some people can't get Richard. Also, if you do a bit of math, it's a few hundred thousand gold per tier 5 unit depending on the efficiency of the purchase. Gold units have the highest efficiency with something like 1750 gold per soul although you generally want to keep them. Purple units are closer to 2200 gold per soul and blue have >3000 gold per soul. Considering that it takes 125 for tier 5 and 200 for tier 6, that's a minimum of 220k per tier 5 or 350k per tier 6, which is quite expensive. That's 18 Anglo-Saxon conquests for a single vagranian or 28 conquests for a tier 6 so unless I have infinite gold, I'm not going to buy units from the shop for the purpose of getting souls. you will not be using souls to get varangians, you can already get varangians from shop or recruitment, this is only for templars and nothing else, because they are the best units in the game and it will take a long time for them to be released into recruitment, maybe 2-3 months. This is the only way right now for f2p to get templars. I wouldn't recommend this because i think medals should only be spent on generals, then blue equipment but if you are desperate to get templars and you don't want to buy richard, just save up 7200 medals to get 30 templars from the shop, and in the meantime you can be farming gold and buying units from the shop + from recruitment, so when you do unlock templars using medals, you will have lots of units saved up to make souls of wars and get your templars to a decent level. Like i said tho, you should prioritise generals before templars. |
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Post by zink on Feb 28, 2022 0:10:29 GMT
Some people can't get Richard. Also, if you do a bit of math, it's a few hundred thousand gold per tier 5 unit depending on the efficiency of the purchase. Gold units have the highest efficiency with something like 1750 gold per soul although you generally want to keep them. Purple units are closer to 2200 gold per soul and blue have >3000 gold per soul. Considering that it takes 125 for tier 5 and 200 for tier 6, that's a minimum of 220k per tier 5 or 350k per tier 6, which is quite expensive. That's 18 Anglo-Saxon conquests for a single vagranian or 28 conquests for a tier 6 so unless I have infinite gold, I'm not going to buy units from the shop for the purpose of getting souls. you will not be using souls to get varangians, you can already get varangians from shop or recruitment, this is only for templars and nothing else, because they are the best units in the game and it will take a long time for them to be released into recruitment, maybe 2-3 months. This is the only way right now for f2p to get templars. I wouldn't recommend this because i think medals should only be spent on generals, then blue equipment but if you are desperate to get templars and you don't want to buy richard, just save up 7200 medals to get 30 templars from the shop, and in the meantime you can be farming gold and buying units from the shop + from recruitment, so when you do unlock templars using medals, you will have lots of units saved up to make souls of wars and get your templars to a decent level. Like i said tho, you should prioritise generals before templars. > you will not be using souls to get varangians, This makes it sound like a command not a suggestion lol Also, I feel like people are worrying too much about getting high tier units than using high leveled low-mid tier units which is much easier and as effective |
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Post by randomperson on Feb 28, 2022 0:26:51 GMT
Some people can't get Richard. Also, if you do a bit of math, it's a few hundred thousand gold per tier 5 unit depending on the efficiency of the purchase. Gold units have the highest efficiency with something like 1750 gold per soul although you generally want to keep them. Purple units are closer to 2200 gold per soul and blue have >3000 gold per soul. Considering that it takes 125 for tier 5 and 200 for tier 6, that's a minimum of 220k per tier 5 or 350k per tier 6, which is quite expensive. That's 18 Anglo-Saxon conquests for a single vagranian or 28 conquests for a tier 6 so unless I have infinite gold, I'm not going to buy units from the shop for the purpose of getting souls. you will not be using souls to get varangians, you can already get varangians from shop or recruitment, this is only for templars and nothing else, because they are the best units in the game and it will take a long time for them to be released into recruitment, maybe 2-3 months. This is the only way right now for f2p to get templars. I wouldn't recommend this because i think medals should only be spent on generals, then blue equipment but if you are desperate to get templars and you don't want to buy richard, just save up 7200 medals to get 30 templars from the shop, and in the meantime you can be farming gold and buying units from the shop + from recruitment, so when you do unlock templars using medals, you will have lots of units saved up to make souls of wars and get your templars to a decent level. Like i said tho, you should prioritise generals before templars. I suppose that at some point you cannot use gold on anything else. That is when I will buy useless units for souls. Personally, I don't really want to spent >10 MILLION gold to get 30 templars for lvl 1. To get >10 million gold, you need to do 800 Anglo-Saxon conquests. They nerfed Anglo-Saxon farming this update so it takes about 10 minutes instead of 5 now. So, that's like 130 hours of straight grinding. And this is assuming that you only ever buy tier 5 units from the shop. If instead you only bought tier 4 units, this would take 160 hours. Completely unreasonable. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Feb 28, 2022 1:35:25 GMT
May be in future but now you can only get Templar by crafting fragment (when you already had fragment) or buy from trade place (what's ET call their IAP shop). Teach me your ways please My way is simple because I don't focus on getting Generals, IAPs are enough for me, may be I will buy Justinian I for auto conquest but not now. My game is just focus on unit upgrading and there are 2 way: 1. With 50% discount Mecernary order: Spend medal for it and reroll the recruit, get only lvl 5 fragment (to decompse to soul then get templar and mamluk frags) and some unique units (those have 30% damage buff from premium generals). 2. Without discount, spend on reset + reroll shop to get fragments (should be equivalent to 4 lvl 5 fragment per time, may be 2 lvl 5, 1 lvl 4 and 1 lvl 3, 1 mecernary = 1 lvl 5 fragment). I have a thread about this method. |
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Post by torvestareborn on Feb 28, 2022 18:30:10 GMT
you will not be using souls to get varangians, you can already get varangians from shop or recruitment, this is only for templars and nothing else, because they are the best units in the game and it will take a long time for them to be released into recruitment, maybe 2-3 months. This is the only way right now for f2p to get templars. I wouldn't recommend this because i think medals should only be spent on generals, then blue equipment but if you are desperate to get templars and you don't want to buy richard, just save up 7200 medals to get 30 templars from the shop, and in the meantime you can be farming gold and buying units from the shop + from recruitment, so when you do unlock templars using medals, you will have lots of units saved up to make souls of wars and get your templars to a decent level. Like i said tho, you should prioritise generals before templars. > you will not be using souls to get varangians, This makes it sound like a command not a suggestion lol Also, I feel like people are worrying too much about getting high tier units than using high leveled low-mid tier units which is much easier and as effective it would be pretty dumb to use souls to get varangians when it's much easier to get them from shops or recruitment, you can't do this for templars, and templars are the best units anyway. Why would you focus on low-mid tier units when you will eventually need to use high tier units? it's a waste and not efficient. |
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Post by andrei on Feb 28, 2022 18:36:49 GMT
> you will not be using souls to get varangians, This makes it sound like a command not a suggestion lol Also, I feel like people are worrying too much about getting high tier units than using high leveled low-mid tier units which is much easier and as effective it would be pretty dumb to use souls to get varangians when it's much easier to get them from shops or recruitment, you can't do this for templars, and templars are the best units anyway. Why would you focus on low-mid tier units when you will eventually need to use high tier units? it's a waste and not efficient. If I remember correctly You repeated many times that everyone who wants to complete the game needs to focus Varangians and Noble Cavalry and that will be enough  And now Varangians are "low-mid tier"? |
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Post by torvestareborn on Feb 28, 2022 18:44:19 GMT
it would be pretty dumb to use souls to get varangians when it's much easier to get them from shops or recruitment, you can't do this for templars, and templars are the best units anyway. Why would you focus on low-mid tier units when you will eventually need to use high tier units? it's a waste and not efficient. If I remember correctly You repeated many times that everyone who wants to complete the game needs to focus Varangians and Noble Cavalry and that will be enough And now Varangians are "low-mid tier"? when did i say that varangians are low-mid tier? or do you struggle to read? if you are trolling then just say, i don't mind |
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Post by stoic on Feb 28, 2022 18:48:52 GMT
you will not be using souls to get varangians, you can already get varangians from shop or recruitment, this is only for templars and nothing else, because they are the best units in the game and it will take a long time for them to be released into recruitment, maybe 2-3 months. This is the only way right now for f2p to get templars. I wouldn't recommend this because i think medals should only be spent on generals, then blue equipment but if you are desperate to get templars and you don't want to buy richard, just save up 7200 medals to get 30 templars from the shop, and in the meantime you can be farming gold and buying units from the shop + from recruitment, so when you do unlock templars using medals, you will have lots of units saved up to make souls of wars and get your templars to a decent level. Like i said tho, you should prioritise generals before templars. I suppose that at some point you cannot use gold on anything else. That is when I will buy useless units for souls. Personally, I don't really want to spent >10 MILLION gold to get 30 templars for lvl 1. To get >10 million gold, you need to do 800 Anglo-Saxon conquests. They nerfed Anglo-Saxon farming this update so it takes about 10 minutes instead of 5 now. So, that's like 130 hours of straight grinding. And this is assuming that you only ever buy tier 5 units from the shop. If instead you only bought tier 4 units, this would take 160 hours. Completely unreasonable. Now when randomperson have so nicely calculated this all, I see that my only chance to get them is 80% discount in the VIP shop  |
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Post by stoic on Feb 28, 2022 18:50:28 GMT
If I remember correctly You repeated many times that everyone who wants to complete the game needs to focus Varangians and Noble Cavalry and that will be enough And now Varangians are "low-mid tier"? when did i say that varangians are low-mid tier? or do you struggle to read? if you are trolling then just say, i don't mind Don't be offended, but it was a logical conclusion: "it would be pretty dumb to use souls to get varangians" "Why would you focus on low-mid tier unit" Perhaps it is not what you have in mind but it could be easily supposed so... |
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Post by torvestareborn on Feb 28, 2022 18:53:00 GMT
you will not be using souls to get varangians, you can already get varangians from shop or recruitment, this is only for templars and nothing else, because they are the best units in the game and it will take a long time for them to be released into recruitment, maybe 2-3 months. This is the only way right now for f2p to get templars. I wouldn't recommend this because i think medals should only be spent on generals, then blue equipment but if you are desperate to get templars and you don't want to buy richard, just save up 7200 medals to get 30 templars from the shop, and in the meantime you can be farming gold and buying units from the shop + from recruitment, so when you do unlock templars using medals, you will have lots of units saved up to make souls of wars and get your templars to a decent level. Like i said tho, you should prioritise generals before templars. I suppose that at some point you cannot use gold on anything else. That is when I will buy useless units for souls. Personally, I don't really want to spent >10 MILLION gold to get 30 templars for lvl 1. To get >10 million gold, you need to do 800 Anglo-Saxon conquests. They nerfed Anglo-Saxon farming this update so it takes about 10 minutes instead of 5 now. So, that's like 130 hours of straight grinding. And this is assuming that you only ever buy tier 5 units from the shop. If instead you only bought tier 4 units, this would take 160 hours. Completely unreasonable. you do realise you need to own templars before you can exchange souls for them, you don't grind 10 million gold to unlock templars, you grind gold to upgrade templars. anyway, you can either wait for templars to be released which will take several months, or you can have a head start and start upgrading them now with souls. its up to you, medals should be reserved for generals, once you got all the generals, it's probably worth buying templars with medals but by that time, your templars would already be a high level if you grinded with souls or they are released into the game. |
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Post by torvestareborn on Feb 28, 2022 18:55:52 GMT
when did i say that varangians are low-mid tier? or do you struggle to read? if you are trolling then just say, i don't mind Don't be offended, but it was a logical conclusion: "it would be pretty dumb to use souls to get varangians" "Why would you focus on low-mid tier unit" Perhaps it is not what you have in mind but it could be easily supposed so... no it's not a logical conclusion, it's' pretty obvious why you wouldn't use souls which are hard to get to buy varangians, already explained it several times, and doesn't really need explaining. Also how can varangians be low-mid tier when they are literally the best infantry units in the game, he is just trolling or trying to put words in my mouth, if people just read instead of trying to misinterpret, we wouldn;t need to clarify |
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Post by stoic on Feb 28, 2022 19:01:30 GMT
Don't be offended, but it was a logical conclusion: "it would be pretty dumb to use souls to get varangians" "Why would you focus on low-mid tier unit" Perhaps it is not what you have in mind but it could be easily supposed so... no it's not a logical conclusion, it's' pretty obvious why you wouldn't use souls which are hard to get to buy varangians, already explained it several times, and doesn't really need explaining. Also how can varangians be low-mid tier when they are literally the best infantry units in the game, he is just trolling or trying to put words in my mouth, if people just read instead of trying to misinterpret, we wouldn;t need to clarify Again, as I said, I believe you haven't any intention to offend Varangians  or anything of the sort. But just read your post: "it would be pretty dumb to use souls to get varangians when it's much easier to get them from shops or recruitment, you can't do this for templars, and templars are the best units anyway. Why would you focus on low-mid tier units when you will eventually need to use high tier units? it's a waste and not efficient" No-one fits better into your description of "low-mid tier units" than Varangians you mentioned in your previous sentence... |
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Post by torvestareborn on Feb 28, 2022 19:09:04 GMT
no it's not a logical conclusion, it's' pretty obvious why you wouldn't use souls which are hard to get to buy varangians, already explained it several times, and doesn't really need explaining. Also how can varangians be low-mid tier when they are literally the best infantry units in the game, he is just trolling or trying to put words in my mouth, if people just read instead of trying to misinterpret, we wouldn;t need to clarify Again, as I said, I believe you haven't any intention to offend Varangians  or anything of the sort. But just read your post: "it would be pretty dumb to use souls to get varangians when it's much easier to get them from shops or recruitment, you can't do this for templars, and templars are the best units anyway. Why would you focus on low-mid tier units when you will eventually need to use high tier units? it's a waste and not efficient" No-one fits better into your description of "low-mid tier units" than Varangians you mentioned in your previous sentence... you are bad at interpreting or understand then, maybe english isn't your first language. saying that it's easier to get them from recruitment or shops does not mean they are bad. I don't know how you jumped to that conclusion when they are completely unrelated points. I can explain my point but its not worth it |
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Post by andrei on Feb 28, 2022 19:12:52 GMT
stoic, it is actually doesn't matter what exactly he meant. It is just funny how his opinion is changed. We can easily find his multiple statements that everyone must focus Varangians and Noble Cavalry. I was saying that it is probably not very wise to heavily invest in these two units only but to save resources as available content can be beaten without heavy investments. But I was advised to achieve first. And what we see now? Maybe we better take Templars. And what about Noble Cavalry? Isn't it enough to beat the game by only focusing it? Waiting for the moment when he will start advising to mix units in a legion. I am sure we'll see it in couple of updates.
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Post by stoic on Feb 28, 2022 19:15:23 GMT
Again, as I said, I believe you haven't any intention to offend Varangians or anything of the sort. But just read your post: "it would be pretty dumb to use souls to get varangians when it's much easier to get them from shops or recruitment, you can't do this for templars, and templars are the best units anyway. Why would you focus on low-mid tier units when you will eventually need to use high tier units? it's a waste and not efficient" No-one fits better into your description of "low-mid tier units" than Varangians you mentioned in your previous sentence... you are bad at interpreting or understand then, maybe english isn't your first language. saying that it's easier to get them from recruitment or shops does not mean they are bad. I don't know how you jumped to that conclusion when they are completely unrelated points. I can explain my point but its not worth it Obviously English is not my mother tongue, but since you haven't mentioned any other unit in your post and in your previous sentence you have spoken about Varangians, I find it pretty logical to make this conclusion. It is not that I am trying to teach you the basics of logic or something like this... I simply pointed out that your words can be easily misinterpreted, and I made exactly the same conclusion as andrei. |
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