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Post by tranhungdao on Mar 1, 2022 18:32:58 GMT
Heyhey people, new to forum here. I'm at 2.700 medals and have bought no archer gen. I have found 2 gens that are very specialized in archery in capability and skills, and are very comparable.
Pepin the Short: Rank: Squad commander II Tittle: Royal Duke (high title) Ranged capability: 28 Morale: 38 Ranged tactician lv2 (4%) Master Skirmisher lv3 (5%) Active skill: Composure (reduces target's DMG by 40%) Hiring cost: 1305 medals, which is one of the highest in silver tier.
Thoughts: His stats are average, and he has only 3 skills. but all 3 are specialized for any ranged units, and have high level. His active skill is very useful when trying to kill a dangerous target that can kill your attacking units. Best to cast this on the enemy before dog-piling them with 2 or three of your gens. Can possibly save the lives of hundreds of men in the process. I have not noticed anyone else with this ability.
Valens Rank: Squad commander I (one less rank => more upgrading potential, but 2 less range capability => basically makes him one rank more costly to be equal to Pepin)
Tittle: King (one tittle higher)
Ranged capability: 26
Morale: 40 (2 higher)
Ranged tactician lv1 (3%) => 1lower
Master Skirmisher lv2 (4%) => 1 lower
Active skill: Master of archery lv1 (increases ranged DMG by 10% in current round) => pretty meh skill, give a bit temporal DMG, and nothing else
Hiring cost: 1450 medals, the highest silver gen I have seen so far in the game
Thoughts: His stats are average, and he has 5 skills. but all 5 are low leveled 2 of them are terrain-specific skills, forest is quite common I guess. Valens on forest terrain only outperform Pepin damage-wise by 4%, and out of forests he actually under-perform a bit by 1%. His active has no alternative effects aside from boring extra 10% DMG.
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Post by blueberry on Mar 1, 2022 18:54:55 GMT
Master skirmisher doesn't work with units armed with bows, crossbows, muskets, so it's quite a bad skill.
Composure is very good, there are also Aethelred I and Cnut with it. I'll definitely get Cnut, but I think that Pepin and Aethelred aren't worth getting.
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Post by tranhungdao on Mar 1, 2022 19:05:04 GMT
I didn't know that, thought projectile would indicate literally anything that flies in the air. That was disapointing, can u recommend any f2p ranged gens? I'm just taking it slow with the game and considering best options |
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Post by blueberry on Mar 1, 2022 19:16:33 GMT
I didn't know that, thought projectile would indicate literally anything that flies in the air. That was disapointing, can u recommend any f2p ranged gens? I'm just taking it slow with the game and considering best options I'm only at viking invasion, other users can certainly help you better than I can. I only know that El Cid should be very good but requires quite a lot of progress in campaigns to be unlocked. Same for Timur and Subutai. |
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Post by ash1234 on Mar 2, 2022 4:47:03 GMT
Umm, I wouldn't get either if I were you. I would suggest for you to get a cavalry general first- preferably Alfred, as he's cheap and you get his item for free. Roland and Basil II are good alternatives. You don't really need an archer general even until the Normandy campaign. Only then should you consider buying an archer gen, but I'm waiting for El cid to come out. As per what some other member said previously, Jebe and Subutai are good Horse-archer generals, but we would have to wait for the game to release them. If you really want an archer gen that's good, I'd suggest buying justinian- though he's overpriced by a couple hundred medals, his administration and his bond with theodora should be enough.
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Post by tranhungdao on Mar 4, 2022 3:44:37 GMT
Thank you for ur advice, I actually do have Alfred as my first cav gen. This game is kinda weird in its gen availability pacing, I guess it IS worth waiting for a better archer gen down in campaign line. As for Justinian, I have met not a lot of difficulty in clearing campaign without using administration gens. Putting Justinian as consul does make use of his Lobbyist skill, which increases diplomacy with all factionsby 5 per turn (I think this was buffed in recent update, its used to be 2 per turn I think), which lets you ally with most factions that remains by round 20 or 30. I also guess the bonds bonus is useful in campaign maps, where you start out with roughly 20ish silver and 10ish metal per turn only, so that extra bonus can give u a kick to start snowballing.
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Post by ash1234 on Mar 4, 2022 12:39:51 GMT
Thank you for ur advice, I actually do have Alfred as my first cav gen. This game is kinda weird in its gen availability pacing, I guess it IS worth waiting for a better archer gen down in campaign line. As for Justinian, I have met not a lot of difficulty in clearing campaign without using administration gens. Putting Justinian as consul does make use of his Lobbyist skill, which increases diplomacy with all factionsby 5 per turn (I think this was buffed in recent update, its used to be 2 per turn I think), which lets you ally with most factions that remains by round 20 or 30. I also guess the bonds bonus is useful in campaign maps, where you start out with roughly 20ish silver and 10ish metal per turn only, so that extra bonus can give u a kick to start snowballing. Yeah, the two f2p bonds are Justinian+ Theodora and Beisaius+ Narses. The better of the two is the Justinian one, since he can be used as a consul plus a good archer gen, Theodoara, honestly just put her on any unit lol. The Belisarius+ Narses bond is quite flawed. Narses is flawed in general (my opinion though) his item increases cavalry but his special unit is garrison spearman (inf), and I dont really see much use in him. From what my friend said, the consul skill is really useful, especially after the new update, but I don't know, as I have not bought Justinian. But maybe you could buy Robert Curtose, he's a bronze archer gen that can be bought with gold and he's kinda decent. Or maybe after the komenos dynasty update, buy Eleanor of Aquitaine for her heal, but I might be going a little bit crazy on that one, since she'd cost medals, and it would be more beneficial to invest in a gold gen compared to her. |
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Post by stoic on Mar 4, 2022 12:49:12 GMT
Thank you for ur advice, I actually do have Alfred as my first cav gen. This game is kinda weird in its gen availability pacing, I guess it IS worth waiting for a better archer gen down in campaign line. As for Justinian, I have met not a lot of difficulty in clearing campaign without using administration gens. Putting Justinian as consul does make use of his Lobbyist skill, which increases diplomacy with all factionsby 5 per turn (I think this was buffed in recent update, its used to be 2 per turn I think), which lets you ally with most factions that remains by round 20 or 30. I also guess the bonds bonus is useful in campaign maps, where you start out with roughly 20ish silver and 10ish metal per turn only, so that extra bonus can give u a kick to start snowballing. Yeah, the two f2p bonds are Justinian+ Theodora and Beisaius+ Narses. The better of the two is the Justinian one, since he can be used as a consul plus a good archer gen, Theodoara, honestly just put her on any unit lol. The Belisarius+ Narses bond is quite flawed. Narses is flawed in general (my opinion though) his item increases cavalry but his special unit is garrison spearman (inf), and I dont really see much use in him. From what my friend said, the consul skill is really useful, especially after the new update, but I don't know, as I have not bought Justinian. But maybe you could buy Robert Curtose, he's a bronze archer gen that can be bought with gold and he's kinda decent. Or maybe after the komenos dynasty update, buy Eleanor of Aquitaine for her heal, but I might be going a little bit crazy on that one, since she'd cost medals, and it would be more beneficial to invest in a gold gen compared to her. The item of Narses increases both cavalry and infantry points. I think ET intentionally made Jack of all trades out of him. Whether such approach has a future still remains to be seen, since we can't ignore bonuses we get after mixing troops. It is possible, as I understand, to get up to 9 different bonuses for a whole legion. And few are better to command such mixed legions than Narses and Alfred. |
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Post by stoic on Mar 4, 2022 12:52:31 GMT
Actually I've met Valens a lot of times in Pharaoh's treasure missions. Not an easiest opponent to defeat  |
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Post by Sun liren on Mar 5, 2022 10:01:22 GMT
Actually I've met Valens a lot of times in Pharaoh's treasure missions. Not an easiest opponent to defeat  Especially when he is on the elephant 😂 |
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Post by reinhard11 on Mar 5, 2022 23:24:39 GMT
Yeah, the two f2p bonds are Justinian+ Theodora and Beisaius+ Narses. The better of the two is the Justinian one, since he can be used as a consul plus a good archer gen, Theodoara, honestly just put her on any unit lol. The Belisarius+ Narses bond is quite flawed. Narses is flawed in general (my opinion though) his item increases cavalry but his special unit is garrison spearman (inf), and I dont really see much use in him. From what my friend said, the consul skill is really useful, especially after the new update, but I don't know, as I have not bought Justinian. But maybe you could buy Robert Curtose, he's a bronze archer gen that can be bought with gold and he's kinda decent. Or maybe after the komenos dynasty update, buy Eleanor of Aquitaine for her heal, but I might be going a little bit crazy on that one, since she'd cost medals, and it would be more beneficial to invest in a gold gen compared to her. The item of Narses increases both cavalry and infantry points. I think ET intentionally made Jack of all trades out of him. Whether such approach has a future still remains to be seen, since we can't ignore bonuses we get after mixing troops. It is possible, as I understand, to get up to 9 different bonuses for a whole legion. And few are better to command such mixed legions than Narses and Alfred. Instead of Eleanor I would recommend you to save medals in empress Matilda. Her skills are really good as she can be used with a mixed army of ranged and counter infantry. I have used her in the last mission of cause of Normandy and her ability of calmness is exceptional if you have a general with interception ability. Idk how much will she cost but her stats are better than Eleanor ones. If you want a medical general, I recommend you to buy Adil I, he has medical ability level 2 and only cost 30k of gold |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 6, 2022 0:30:22 GMT
Master skirmisher doesn't work with units armed with bows, crossbows, muskets, so it's quite a bad skill. Woad Raider is a pretty decent unit. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 6, 2022 1:51:15 GMT
Master skirmisher doesn't work with units armed with bows, crossbows, muskets, so it's quite a bad skill. Woad Raider is a pretty decent unit. Heavy Armored Assault Cavalry is okay as well. |
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Post by stoic on Mar 6, 2022 2:16:08 GMT
Woad Raider is a pretty decent unit. Heavy Armored Assault Cavalry is okay as well. Unfortunately both woad raiders and assault cavalry are very weak in defence as we progress. |
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Post by Thortilla on Mar 6, 2022 2:37:26 GMT
Heavy Armored Assault Cavalry is okay as well. Unfortunately both woad raiders and assault cavalry are very weak in defence as we progress. also that.....when have you seen a Woad Raider in the campaign? |
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