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Post by Nhyjj on Mar 10, 2022 0:58:05 GMT
I discovered that by using Alfred as consul (+20%ish chance in agreements) you can ally with the Huns as the Ostrogoths because instead of starting at war you start with a passage agreement. If you win quick enough, you can indeed stay allied with them (be sure to have enough money for blackmail though) and get an hegemony victory, without defeating the huns.
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Post by Nhyjj on Mar 10, 2022 0:59:56 GMT
Oh, I kinda forgot I had twitch open when screenshoting.
LOL
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Post by Thortilla on Mar 10, 2022 1:46:57 GMT
I do it with the Anglo-Saxons some time ago:
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Post by Nhyjj on Mar 10, 2022 1:56:41 GMT
I do it with the Anglo-Saxons some time ago: Yeah, it sure is very much possible with every single country, but it’s much easier with the Ostrogoths. Did you use Justinian in that game because it’s the first time I see positives relation with the Huns. And, how did you manage your relation up? If I recall correctly, you can’t donate money for higher relations to the Huns. And I must add, you’re at turn 57 and still haven’t won. I won by 33. Much more efficacy.
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Post by Thortilla on Mar 10, 2022 21:26:56 GMT
I do it with the Anglo-Saxons some time ago: Yeah, it sure is very much possible with every single country, but it’s much easier with the Ostrogoths. Did you use Justinian in that game because it’s the first time I see positives relation with the Huns. And, how did you manage your relation up? If I recall correctly, you can’t donate money for higher relations to the Huns. And I must add, you’re at turn 57 and still haven’t won. I won by 33. Much more efficacy. 1: I use Gytha 2:I just wait (and send the Gift that they ask when Relationship was in -30) 3: I haven’t Won because I stay in the island (and I declare the war to everyone in turn 1) that's the reason why I don't have the territories in Continental Europe. because the Franks conquered all that from me.
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Post by randomperson on Mar 13, 2022 4:12:35 GMT
I discovered that by using Alfred as consul (+20%ish chance in agreements) you can ally with the Huns as the Ostrogoths because instead of starting at war you start with a passage agreement. If you win quick enough, you can indeed stay allied with them (be sure to have enough money for blackmail though) and get an hegemony victory, without defeating the huns. I managed to beat the ostrogoth conquest in 22 turns using this strategy. It could've probably been 18-19 turns if I'd moved my generals towards the Alans earlier (I thought I could ally with them). However, I think that speed running conquests in this game is going to be a pain because of RNG and the inability to cloud save for RNG because conquests and campaigns autosave to something other than cloud save. I think you could get around this with turning your internet off and then repeatedly reloading but that is honestly just a pain. (also every conquest would come down to belisarius as consul RNG for the 20% chance to save money)
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Post by andrei on Mar 14, 2022 12:10:48 GMT
It is not possible anymore. Gifts give 0 diplomacy. I was hoping to complete the conquest before their arrival, but Bretons (who I declared after Visigoths asked) survived against Visigoths and I failed to complete it before the arrival of Huns. But it is definetely possible. Next time I try Ostrogoths will aim for Hegemony before the arrival of Huns.
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Post by andrei on Mar 14, 2022 17:11:01 GMT
I wasn't fast enough to complete it before Huns arrival but I actually allied Huns by using Olga's bonus to agreement chance. I allied them at 4th try with 24% success chance
Is it time to start records thread?
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Post by stoic on Mar 15, 2022 5:20:42 GMT
I wasn't fast enough to complete it before Huns arrival but I actually allied Huns by using Olga's bonus to agreement chance. I allied them at 4th try with 24% success chance
Is it time to start records thread? Nah, perhaps we should wait for an update or two But, I agree, the main goal is to find means to complete conquests before those "special events". It is definitely possible to do it in "Barbarian Invasion" and "Rise of Bysantium", not yet sure though about Vikings' conquests. Btw, in the "Rise of Bysantium" it is easier to achieve it as Franks
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Post by andrei on Mar 15, 2022 7:47:55 GMT
Nah, perhaps we should wait for an update or two But, I agree, the main goal is to find means to complete conquests before those "special events". It is definitely possible to do it in "Barbarian Invasion" and "Rise of Bysantium", not yet sure though about Vikings' conquests. Btw, in the "Rise of Bysantium" it is easier to achieve it as Franks I haven't played a single Rise of Bysantium yet. And what are the events in this era?
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Post by stoic on Mar 15, 2022 8:38:33 GMT
Nah, perhaps we should wait for an update or two But, I agree, the main goal is to find means to complete conquests before those "special events". It is definitely possible to do it in "Barbarian Invasion" and "Rise of Bysantium", not yet sure though about Vikings' conquests. Btw, in the "Rise of Bysantium" it is easier to achieve it as Franks I haven't played a single Rise of Bysantium yet. And what are the events in this era? At turn 30 a massive horde of Avars arrives from the Northeast, near borders of Byzantine Empire and Gepides.
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Post by stoic on Mar 15, 2022 9:53:25 GMT
Oh, andrei, I have forgotten to mention it, but at turn 15 Berbers arrive in North Africa. Another non-negotiable nation. But in opposite to Avars we can defeat Berbers without killing them all. It is just enough to take all settlements they poses.
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Mar 15, 2022 10:26:19 GMT
I wasn't fast enough to complete it before Huns arrival but I actually allied Huns by using Olga's bonus to agreement chance. I allied them at 4th try with 24% success chance
Is it time to start records thread? If there will be one There should be two categories: normal finish and hegemony finish And maximum (generals) of 8 (small) 10-12 (medium) 12-16 (large)
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Post by blueberry on Mar 15, 2022 10:37:12 GMT
I wasn't fast enough to complete it before Huns arrival but I actually allied Huns by using Olga's bonus to agreement chance. I allied them at 4th try with 24% success chance
Is it time to start records thread? If there will be one There should be two categories: normal finish and hegemony finish And maximum (generals) of 8 (small) 10-12 (medium) 12-16 (large) I'd suggest also two sub-categories for hegemony: declare war against everyone and ally with anyone you want.
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Post by best75 on Mar 15, 2022 13:49:02 GMT
These events in EW7 conquest sound interesting. We never had this kind of stuff in easytech conquest where entire armies were added. Overall information for the events would be good to have.
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