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Post by andrei on Mar 24, 2022 20:58:20 GMT
Empress Matilda has awesome active skill. Is it really good? I made some tests to find out. In Battle of Golpejera (stage 1) of El Cid hero legends there are two special legions with huge amount of troops  I decided that these guys could be useful when fighting on my side. So I asked them to surrender.  Hmm, not the result I was hoping for. Ok, maybe it is because I still don't have access to the units I am trying to steal. Royal cavalry is not unlocked yet. Maybe that is why I can't have it. I received tier 1 charge cav instead of Royal cavalry. Ok, let's try something we have already unlocked. Here is the second specific legion. And these units are unlocked.  The result:  I received the unit I was hoping for but with standard amount of troops. Moreover level is lower. It is because Feudal knight in my HQ is level5. Yack. Summary. You can only steal units You've unlocked (at least if we are speaking about standard units, need to test for special Enlistments additionaly) and only with level You have it in Your HQ. So, whether it is good enough? IDK. With support of the general with Calmness You can basically delete 2 frontliners. |
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Post by lunarclaws on Mar 24, 2022 22:00:24 GMT
When you take a wounded enemy, it will be on a full health too.
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Post by andrei on Mar 24, 2022 22:10:22 GMT
When you take a wounded enemy, it will be on a full health too. Yeah, I know, but anyway it is not as powerful as it was expected earlier  Moreover now many generals were given passive skill Dsicipline disabling Detain and Surrender. |
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Post by lunarclaws on Mar 24, 2022 22:18:31 GMT
Ah yes those counter skills, you got this crazy idea too with calmness generals with her. Dismissing units when you have full stack 😁.
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Post by ruffruder on Mar 25, 2022 0:47:54 GMT
Haha, just wondering if i can pass jacob's ford mission with it🤣 forcing me to buy...  update: yeah, success, with Caesars skill i just killed them all. It doesn't come with that large hp and i can't use it on last one, but super useful lol |
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Post by stoic on Mar 25, 2022 3:10:12 GMT
Well, since we will upgrade all regular troops (and many mercenary units too) in our HQ sooner or later, this ability will be more and more useful. Another question - is it enough to prefer Matilda to other (often apparently better) generals. Because when we choose to deploy her, we automatically choose to leave someone on the bench...
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Post by Erich on Mar 25, 2022 3:49:29 GMT
Well, since we will upgrade all regular troops (and many mercenary units too) in our HQ sooner or later, this ability will be more and more useful. Another question - is it enough to prefer Matilda to other (often apparently better) generals. Because when we choose to deploy her, we automatically choose to leave someone on the bench... I think yes, we should deploy her coz General’s damage difference is not that much, the most difference and important is their active skill. Compared to Richard, she even does more damage facing thousands HP enemies. |
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Post by reinhard11 on Mar 25, 2022 11:34:45 GMT
Well, since we will upgrade all regular troops (and many mercenary units too) in our HQ sooner or later, this ability will be more and more useful. Another question - is it enough to prefer Matilda to other (often apparently better) generals. Because when we choose to deploy her, we automatically choose to leave someone on the bench... I think yes, we should deploy her coz General’s damage difference is not that much, the most difference and important is their active skill. Compared to Richard, she even does more damage facing thousands HP enemies. She is a really good general and in my opinion, it’s a good option to choose during hero missions but not for replacing Richard. Although Matilda has an incredible active skill, it can’t be compared with detain. Also you said that dmg between generals is not so different, I think you haven’t played yet with Richard😂. In El Cid missions I have made more than 2k damage killing everyone I saw. In some missions of the Cid campaign are really treaky and normally you don’t have to fight against those troops which are buffed. I don’t she her necessary at the moment. |
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Post by Erich on Mar 25, 2022 14:42:07 GMT
She is a really good general and in my opinion, it’s a good option to choose during hero missions but not for replacing Richard. Although Matilda has an incredible active skill, it can’t be compared with detain. Also you said that dmg between generals is not so different, I think you haven’t played yet with Richard😂. In El Cid missions I have made more than 2k damage killing everyone I saw. In some missions of the Cid campaign are really treaky and normally you don’t have to fight against those troops which are buffed. I don’t she her necessary at the moment. Well, I have Richard, and yeah he hits like a truck. But in this version we have many ways to eliminate the enemy thanks to the active skills and abundant unit types. I feel EW7 is more to use Generals the right way, right moment; ET did that well (if not best) in this version. Matilda, originally she’s kinda supportive General, it means we should keep her in a city/castle to get more gold/iron, all her skills are for administration or defending (even her active skill is best for defending). Compare a pure attacking general with a pure defending administrator, what do we need more. |
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Post by reinhard11 on Mar 25, 2022 15:52:55 GMT
She is a really good general and in my opinion, it’s a good option to choose during hero missions but not for replacing Richard. Although Matilda has an incredible active skill, it can’t be compared with detain. Also you said that dmg between generals is not so different, I think you haven’t played yet with Richard😂. In El Cid missions I have made more than 2k damage killing everyone I saw. In some missions of the Cid campaign are really treaky and normally you don’t have to fight against those troops which are buffed. I don’t she her necessary at the moment. Well, I have Richard, and yeah he hits like a truck. But in this version we have many ways to eliminate the enemy thanks to the active skills and abundant unit types. I feel EW7 is more to use Generals the right way, right moment; ET did that well (if not best) in this version. Matilda, originally she’s kinda supportive General, it means we should keep her in a city/castle to get more gold/iron, all her skills are for administration or defending (even her active skill is best for defending). Compare a pure attacking general with a pure defending administrator, what do we need more. Yeah, I know she’s a defensive general but I don’t feel like paying 7€ for a general which abilities aren’t good enough for campaign and other missions. It’s like Olga but with a worse personal unit. She reminds me Goering from the WC3, really good at buffing resource production. If you want a defensive general with good administration skills, buy Justinian. In this game it’s really easy to farm medals! |
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Post by Erich on Mar 25, 2022 17:25:37 GMT
Yeah, I know she’s a defensive general but I don’t feel like paying 7€ for a general which abilities aren’t good enough for campaign and other missions. It’s like Olga but with a worse personal unit. She reminds me Goering from the WC3, really good at buffing resource production. If you want a defensive general with good administration skills, buy Justinian. In this game it’s really easy to farm medals! And the raid ticket is the only thing we can’t farm, now they fix the save-load rerolling and we can’t get so many good fragments. I don’t wanna buy her too, but they’re trying to force us to buy her. And I think it’s worth every coin buying her. Her active skill and attributes is not for defending only. The sooner you get her, the more ticket you have, maybe they’ll change it in the future updates, maybe not. |
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Post by lunarclaws on Mar 25, 2022 21:34:11 GMT
She's a great consul, after you hoard resources with Justinian, you finish the conquest with her. On the battle field, she's a great support aura gen, giving her the armor reduction item plus her unique crown and if you bought and unlocked teuton knights plus hospitaller(3rd unit will be the defector on cooldown) she can hold on her own.
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Post by ruffruder on Mar 25, 2022 22:47:50 GMT
I'd say it's absolutely insane when playing treasures, with Caesar its reducing 2/3 of any enemy in first move, and 100% sure it could be used same way in some mission to execute op generals
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Post by zink on Mar 26, 2022 9:56:59 GMT
When you take a wounded enemy, it will be on a full health too. Yeah, I know, but anyway it is not as powerful as it was expected earlier Moreover now many generals were given passive skill Dsicipline disabling Detain and Surrender. Not as powerful as you expected? did you seriously think et would let you steal a 3k hp unit? |
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Post by andrei on Mar 26, 2022 10:14:17 GMT
Yeah, I know, but anyway it is not as powerful as it was expected earlier Moreover now many generals were given passive skill Dsicipline disabling Detain and Surrender. Not as powerful as you expected? did you seriously think et would let you steal a 3k hp unit? I ment she is more like a delete-unit general, not a fighter. And in case Your lineup is strong enough You don't need her. Yes, she can steal good units, but as a general.. how to upgrade her? Archer? Cavalry? Infantry? She is awesome on paper only. Not a game changer anyway. |
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