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Post by huykhoi2000 on Apr 15, 2022 8:07:14 GMT
For my circumstances, I have Richard and Matilda due to their daily rewards (with Richard is more about the Templars). I'm still open to get more IAP generals if getting stucks (will get Saladin and Genghis Khan when unlocked), but for now that's all.
I have clear Richard/Alfred/El Cid legends, therefore my raid ticket prior will be Templar/Conquistador. Just wondering that, should I even consider upgrade Noble Cav at all given that I will max Templar first already? I know that Alfred + 20% atk damage can fill the gap between tier 5 and tier 6 unit, but on another thinking all the raid tickets for Noble Cav can be spend on other tier 5/6 units (Conquistadors/Mamluk Archers....). And generalize this discussion to every unit types, should we consider invest on Cnut Viking raiders, Attila Ravenna archers or just focus on the highest tier units and use them on the generals mentioned (Varangian on Cnut, Conquistadors on Attila...). I'm hesitating between 2 ideas: focus on exchange enlistments for lower tier units (3/4 or even 2) for a rapid upgrade, or sacrifice every lower tier enlistments for only the best of the best in each unit type (Varangian only for melee inf, Templars only for charge cav, conquistadors only for melee archers....) which can take ages until they max out.
What's your opinion about it?
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Post by stoic on Apr 15, 2022 9:23:55 GMT
I think Ravenna crossbowmen are worthy every penny and can be used in different endgame setups. Not sure about Viking raiders, though. They are not that hard to upgrade but chances that we will use them in the future are rather slim, imo.
In general, I think, our choice depends on our daily income of gold, medals, tickets, fragments etc. F2p players have to (it is my conviction) understand their limits and set priorities. But players with Matilda and other IAP generals can be, on the other hand, more ambitious. In fact, I am very curious about those mercenary units who will be available for hire in castles in later campaigns. So far we can only guess, and my best guess is that Two-handed swordsmen and Noble cavalry we'll meet more often than Nordic axemen and Templars, for example.
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Post by stoic on Apr 15, 2022 9:50:30 GMT
Two last campaigns (Hundred years' war and War of the Roses) are presumably the most difficult ones. Both are typical West European war theaters with no Mamlukes for hire around So, what can we assume... 1. Templars are long dead, so no Templars for hire too. 2. Hospitaliers and Teutons still alive and well (Teutons until 1410, that means until the battle of Gruenwald) but the region is wrong. So, definitely, no Teutons around and with lesser degree of probability Hospitaliers too. 3. English longbowmen are a "must" in both campaigns. 4. Pavise crossbowmen too, at least on French side. 5. Noble cavalry. I personally have no doubt that it will be the most popular mercenary cavalry unit for hire in both campaigns. 6. Two-handed swordsmen should be readily available everywhere in France and England.
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Post by andrei on Apr 15, 2022 10:13:21 GMT
stoic, Swiss guys should appear everywhere around
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Post by stoic on Apr 15, 2022 10:30:45 GMT
stoic, Swiss guys should appear everywhere around True, but since we don't have access to them yet, even 30 fragments from PoH won't help much I think it is a serious issue. What is the use of Janissaries, Polish Hussars, Dragoons etc. if we can't upgrade them now? They always will be behind our current troops and I see no way to close this gap, at least for now.
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Post by huykhoi2000 on Apr 15, 2022 11:06:52 GMT
When u mean the "abc" unit is dead, is it about availability during campaign? Therefore we shouldn't upgrade it because it only benefit for treasure and free recruit unit in each campaign?
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Post by stoic on Apr 15, 2022 13:41:04 GMT
When u mean the "abc" unit is dead, is it about availability during campaign? Therefore we shouldn't upgrade it because it only benefit for treasure and free recruit unit in each campaign? Well, obviously the higher is the probability to use this or that mercenary unit - the better. My suspicion, campaigns will be the most difficult part of the game, so we have to keep in mind those units we (possibly) could find there. I don't say we should concentrate our efforts on upgrading only these units. But we shouldn't neglect them either while upgrading units we like (Mamlukes, for example). One thing is sure: our units should have lvl 13 or higher to be a real force in later campaigns. So, the question is - do I (as a player) have enough resources to upgrade all units ( or, at least, all units I like) up to this level (maybe even higher) or should I choose only particular units, deliberately leaving others behind? I think, for example, that a f2p player who's trying to get and to upgrade Templars makes a mistake, but only future can tell whether I was right or not. And this future is very unclear now, therefore there's no clear path to success either.
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Post by ruffruder on Apr 15, 2022 21:16:51 GMT
Well, i personally have strong enough setup to easily do whatever i want in current game ver, so i do not upgrade units but farm and will use resources when needed
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Apr 15, 2022 23:03:14 GMT
When u mean the "abc" unit is dead, is it about availability during campaign? Therefore we shouldn't upgrade it because it only benefit for treasure and free recruit unit in each campaign? Well, obviously the higher is the probability to use this or that mercenary unit - the better. My suspicion, campaigns will be the most difficult part of the game, so we have to keep in mind those units we (possibly) could find there. I don't say we should concentrate our efforts on upgrading only these units. But we shouldn't neglect them either while upgrading units we like (Mamlukes, for example). One thing is sure: our units should have lvl 13 or higher to be a real force in later campaigns. So, the question is - do I (as a player) have enough resources to upgrade all units ( or, at least, all units I like) up to this level (maybe even higher) or should I choose only particular units, deliberately leaving others behind? I think, for example, that a f2p player who's trying to get and to upgrade Templars makes a mistake, but only future can tell whether I was right or not. And this future is very unclear now, therefore there's no clear path to success either. I forgot where, but I feel like I've heard from someone that the bottom line easytech's IAP policy is to let F2P players capable of completing the main storyline (campaigns). In other words, if this is true, then the hardest part of EW7 would be treasure challenge (Templar's Treasure). Again, don't quote my word as facts since it's just from my vague memory. Regarding preparation for the future, the consensus in Baidu right now is to invest the medals only in Alfred, Cnut, and El Cid if possible. People are still trying to find the best legion combination of these 3, especially El Cid but less so for Cnut.
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Post by lunarclaws on Apr 15, 2022 23:27:01 GMT
Well, obviously the higher is the probability to use this or that mercenary unit - the better. My suspicion, campaigns will be the most difficult part of the game, so we have to keep in mind those units we (possibly) could find there. I don't say we should concentrate our efforts on upgrading only these units. But we shouldn't neglect them either while upgrading units we like (Mamlukes, for example). One thing is sure: our units should have lvl 13 or higher to be a real force in later campaigns. So, the question is - do I (as a player) have enough resources to upgrade all units ( or, at least, all units I like) up to this level (maybe even higher) or should I choose only particular units, deliberately leaving others behind? I think, for example, that a f2p player who's trying to get and to upgrade Templars makes a mistake, but only future can tell whether I was right or not. And this future is very unclear now, therefore there's no clear path to success either. I forgot where, but I feel like I've heard from someone that the bottom line easytech's IAP policy is to let F2P players capable of completing the main storyline (campaigns). In other words, if this is true, then the hardest part of EW7 would be treasure challenge (Templar's Treasure). Again, don't quote my word as facts since it's just from my vague memory. Regarding preparation for the future, the consensus in Baidu right now is to invest the medals only in Alfred, Cnut, and El Cid if possible. People are still trying to find the best legion combination of these 3, especially El Cid but less so for Cnut. Can we know what are the popular composition for these 3?
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Post by stoic on Apr 16, 2022 4:02:32 GMT
Well, obviously the higher is the probability to use this or that mercenary unit - the better. My suspicion, campaigns will be the most difficult part of the game, so we have to keep in mind those units we (possibly) could find there. I don't say we should concentrate our efforts on upgrading only these units. But we shouldn't neglect them either while upgrading units we like (Mamlukes, for example). One thing is sure: our units should have lvl 13 or higher to be a real force in later campaigns. So, the question is - do I (as a player) have enough resources to upgrade all units ( or, at least, all units I like) up to this level (maybe even higher) or should I choose only particular units, deliberately leaving others behind? I think, for example, that a f2p player who's trying to get and to upgrade Templars makes a mistake, but only future can tell whether I was right or not. And this future is very unclear now, therefore there's no clear path to success either. I forgot where, but I feel like I've heard from someone that the bottom line easytech's IAP policy is to let F2P players capable of completing the main storyline (campaigns). In other words, if this is true, then the hardest part of EW7 would be treasure challenge (Templar's Treasure). Again, don't quote my word as facts since it's just from my vague memory. Regarding preparation for the future, the consensus in Baidu right now is to invest the medals only in Alfred, Cnut, and El Cid if possible. People are still trying to find the best legion combination of these 3, especially El Cid but less so for Cnut. I still have some doubts regarding Templars' treasure. The point is that we can use our best units there, that means units with highest possible stats. And the fact that opponents have numerical advantage and possibly T6 units won't change anything because with war drums (and my guess players will have hundreds of them when Templars' treasure is out) our troops will become almost unkillable, thus nullifying any disadvantage. In campaigns, on the contrary, we have trush units at our disposal most of the time. Moreover, we have to protect allied generals with suicidal inclinations and cities on the other side of the map with no real means to protect them. I see plenty of opportunities to make campaigns a pain in the neck, but treasure missions (my judgment is based on the current ones) are pretty straightforward and require only high levels of our units and some medical support. My only hope is that they will release eventually some challenging content for endgame players, like it was the case in GCR and EW5.
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Post by huykhoi2000 on Apr 16, 2022 7:00:01 GMT
Well, obviously the higher is the probability to use this or that mercenary unit - the better. My suspicion, campaigns will be the most difficult part of the game, so we have to keep in mind those units we (possibly) could find there. I don't say we should concentrate our efforts on upgrading only these units. But we shouldn't neglect them either while upgrading units we like (Mamlukes, for example). One thing is sure: our units should have lvl 13 or higher to be a real force in later campaigns. So, the question is - do I (as a player) have enough resources to upgrade all units ( or, at least, all units I like) up to this level (maybe even higher) or should I choose only particular units, deliberately leaving others behind? I think, for example, that a f2p player who's trying to get and to upgrade Templars makes a mistake, but only future can tell whether I was right or not. And this future is very unclear now, therefore there's no clear path to success either. I forgot where, but I feel like I've heard from someone that the bottom line easytech's IAP policy is to let F2P players capable of completing the main storyline (campaigns). In other words, if this is true, then the hardest part of EW7 would be treasure challenge (Templar's Treasure). Again, don't quote my word as facts since it's just from my vague memory. Regarding preparation for the future, the consensus in Baidu right now is to invest the medals only in Alfred, Cnut, and El Cid if possible. People are still trying to find the best legion combination of these 3, especially El Cid but less so for Cnut. So I guess for units, it's best to invest on Noble Cav, Conquistadors and Varangian for now? I have Templars lvl 8 so should be sufficient not to invest more?
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Post by ruffruder on Apr 16, 2022 12:37:40 GMT
Well, obviously the higher is the probability to use this or that mercenary unit - the better. My suspicion, campaigns will be the most difficult part of the game, so we have to keep in mind those units we (possibly) could find there. I don't say we should concentrate our efforts on upgrading only these units. But we shouldn't neglect them either while upgrading units we like (Mamlukes, for example). One thing is sure: our units should have lvl 13 or higher to be a real force in later campaigns. So, the question is - do I (as a player) have enough resources to upgrade all units ( or, at least, all units I like) up to this level (maybe even higher) or should I choose only particular units, deliberately leaving others behind? I think, for example, that a f2p player who's trying to get and to upgrade Templars makes a mistake, but only future can tell whether I was right or not. And this future is very unclear now, therefore there's no clear path to success either. I forgot where, but I feel like I've heard from someone that the bottom line easytech's IAP policy is to let F2P players capable of completing the main storyline (campaigns). In other words, if this is true, then the hardest part of EW7 would be treasure challenge (Templar's Treasure). Again, don't quote my word as facts since it's just from my vague memory. Regarding preparation for the future, the consensus in Baidu right now is to invest the medals only in Alfred, Cnut, and El Cid if possible. People are still trying to find the best legion combination of these 3, especially El Cid but less so for Cnut. Not rly sure treasures will make any problems while I can use matilda active skill and refreshing it with Caesar and others...
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Post by andrei on Apr 16, 2022 12:47:57 GMT
I forgot where, but I feel like I've heard from someone that the bottom line easytech's IAP policy is to let F2P players capable of completing the main storyline (campaigns). In other words, if this is true, then the hardest part of EW7 would be treasure challenge (Templar's Treasure). Again, don't quote my word as facts since it's just from my vague memory. Regarding preparation for the future, the consensus in Baidu right now is to invest the medals only in Alfred, Cnut, and El Cid if possible. People are still trying to find the best legion combination of these 3, especially El Cid but less so for Cnut. Not rly sure treasures will make any problems while I can use matilda active skill and refreshing it with Caesar and others... He was speaking about f2p strategy. Matilda and Ceaser are IAP generals.
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Post by kingbutawl on Apr 16, 2022 13:59:04 GMT
BTW I hope in “Templars’ treasure” they will add at least 30 Templar’s fragments for us F2P fellas over there
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