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Post by Colonia on Apr 28, 2022 11:42:03 GMT
I started playing EW7 a couple of days ago and have had a fairly easy time so far. I decided to shell out a couple of bucks for Richard and he crushes the early missions on his Templars. After reading through a couple of threads I decided to spend my first medals on Roland. Besides those two I have the free generals plus a couple of Bronzes that can heal.
I invested Heraldry into Roland, Belisarius and Aetius. Roland and Richard have their unique equipment at level 5.
Now I'm torn on my next investment. I'm sitting on about 6k medals and Cid, Alfred, Cnut and Justinian all seem like great options. Out of these who should I prioritize?
Last question is regarding legion structure. I have heard that Woad + Rav is a great combo. Should the third member be a def infantry or another Rav? I assume that Charge Cav generals will just want triple Templars? What are common but effective compositions for my generals and the generals I'm considering?
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Post by andrei on Apr 28, 2022 11:57:17 GMT
Woad+Ravenna is especially good with rapid march gen and consequently third unit is either highly mobile cav like 11 mobility for more attacks per turn or another strong archer for higher damage per attack.
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Post by Colonia on Apr 28, 2022 12:48:44 GMT
Woad+Ravenna is especially good with rapid march gen and consequently third unit is either highly mobile cav like 11 mobility for more attacks per turn or another strong archer for higher damage per attack. Is a mounted archer or a normal Cav unit better in this scenario? |
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Post by andrei on Apr 28, 2022 13:05:52 GMT
Woad+Ravenna is especially good with rapid march gen and consequently third unit is either highly mobile cav like 11 mobility for more attacks per turn or another strong archer for higher damage per attack. Is a mounted archer or a normal Cav unit better in this scenario? It depends on Your playstyle and what You feel is more suitable for this or that case. The whole point of Woad+Ravenna is that You basically shave 2 points (in most cases) from the cost of attack. You can take down another one if Rhinoceros Lvl3 is used as support gear. So, consequently the cost of attack will only be 2 points in the majority of the attacks. General with Rapid March will have total mobility of the legion in accordance with the most mobile unit. These are melee cavalry units (I mean mercenary units of course) with 11 points of mobility. Mounted archers have 10 points of mobility (even lower for Elephants). It is 1 additional point of total amount of mobility of Your legion. It could be important provided You have to move and attack in most cases and could result in less attacks per round. But taking into account Woad+Ravenna combo also eliminates forest&mountain movement malus it could be more beneficial to go with Ranged Cavalry. So it is up to You to decide what is better. |
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Post by eeeeef on Apr 28, 2022 13:14:36 GMT
Is a mounted archer or a normal Cav unit better in this scenario? It depends on Your playstyle and what You feel is more suitable for this or that case. The whole point of Woad+Ravenna is that You basically shave 2 points (in most cases) from the cost of attack. You can take down another one if Rhinoceros Lvl3 is used as support gear. So, consequently the cost of attack will only be 2 points in the majority of the attacks. General with Rapid March will have total mobility of the legion in accordance with the most mobile unit. These are melee cavalry units (I mean mercenary units of course) with 11 points of mobility. Mounted archers have 10 points of mobility (even lower for Elephants). It is 1 additional point of total amount of mobility of Your legion. It could be important provided You have to move and attack in most cases and could result in less attacks per round. But taking into account Woad+Ravenna combo also eliminates forest&mountain movement malus it could be more beneficial to go with Ranged Cavalry. So it is up to You to decide what is better. Wouldn't the movement from ranged ccav be useless since woad has 10 move? |
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Post by Colonia on Apr 28, 2022 13:18:33 GMT
Is a mounted archer or a normal Cav unit better in this scenario? It depends on Your playstyle and what You feel is more suitable for this or that case. The whole point of Woad+Ravenna is that You basically shave 2 points (in most cases) from the cost of attack. You can take down another one if Rhinoceros Lvl3 is used as support gear. So, consequently the cost of attack will only be 2 points in the majority of the attacks. General with Rapid March will have total mobility of the legion in accordance with the most mobile unit. These are melee cavalry units (I mean mercenary units of course) with 11 points of mobility. Mounted archers have 10 points of mobility (even lower for Elephants). It is 1 additional point of total amount of mobility of Your legion. It could be important provided You have to move and attack in most cases and could result in less attacks per round. But taking into account Woad+Ravenna combo also eliminates forest&mountain movement malus it could be more beneficial to go with Ranged Cavalry. So it is up to You to decide what is better. Let's say I use Woad+Ravenna+Mel Cav. What Generals with rapid march produce the best results? IIRC Lancelot was mentioned. In your opinion is this better then a pure damage Cid build? I'm still at the beginning so I have the option to go either way. Haven't invested much into units at this point. I know they both have uses but across the difficult content what General has more utility? |
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Post by andrei on Apr 28, 2022 13:19:29 GMT
It depends on Your playstyle and what You feel is more suitable for this or that case. The whole point of Woad+Ravenna is that You basically shave 2 points (in most cases) from the cost of attack. You can take down another one if Rhinoceros Lvl3 is used as support gear. So, consequently the cost of attack will only be 2 points in the majority of the attacks. General with Rapid March will have total mobility of the legion in accordance with the most mobile unit. These are melee cavalry units (I mean mercenary units of course) with 11 points of mobility. Mounted archers have 10 points of mobility (even lower for Elephants). It is 1 additional point of total amount of mobility of Your legion. It could be important provided You have to move and attack in most cases and could result in less attacks per round. But taking into account Woad+Ravenna combo also eliminates forest&mountain movement malus it could be more beneficial to go with Ranged Cavalry. So it is up to You to decide what is better. Wouldn't the movement from ranged ccav be useless since woad has 10 move? Movement is irrelevant in this case but ranged cav will increase overall damage as ranged cav will be affected by ranged modifier of the general... |
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Post by andrei on Apr 28, 2022 13:26:15 GMT
It depends on Your playstyle and what You feel is more suitable for this or that case. The whole point of Woad+Ravenna is that You basically shave 2 points (in most cases) from the cost of attack. You can take down another one if Rhinoceros Lvl3 is used as support gear. So, consequently the cost of attack will only be 2 points in the majority of the attacks. General with Rapid March will have total mobility of the legion in accordance with the most mobile unit. These are melee cavalry units (I mean mercenary units of course) with 11 points of mobility. Mounted archers have 10 points of mobility (even lower for Elephants). It is 1 additional point of total amount of mobility of Your legion. It could be important provided You have to move and attack in most cases and could result in less attacks per round. But taking into account Woad+Ravenna combo also eliminates forest&mountain movement malus it could be more beneficial to go with Ranged Cavalry. So it is up to You to decide what is better. Let's say I use Woad+Ravenna+Mel Cav. What Generals with rapid march produce the best results? IIRC Lancelot was mentioned. In your opinion is this better then a pure damage Cid build? I'm still at the beginning so I have the option to go either way. Haven't invested much into units at this point. I know they both have uses but across the difficult content what General has more utility? Cid is much much weaker than Lancelot, simply because in most cases he will be attacking once-twice per turn, while Lancelot (even though he has lower title) is a machine gun. But it is valid for now. There is a possibility that Woad+Ravenna will not provide sufficient amount of damage in the end-game content. It is possible to switch to Mamluks+Mongolian instead to get same mobility buffs, but movement malus could negate mobility advantage. So, short answer: it is difficult to say whether Cid will be worse or not. P.S.: I use Lancelot with Melee cav (Camel riders, as Lancelot benefits from sword skill) and Atilla with War axe cav (for the bonuses of this particular unit). But it is for conquests. When I was playing campaigns I was using another archer unit for firepower. Conquests are easier. |
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Post by Colonia on Apr 28, 2022 13:55:12 GMT
Let's say I use Woad+Ravenna+Mel Cav. What Generals with rapid march produce the best results? IIRC Lancelot was mentioned. In your opinion is this better then a pure damage Cid build? I'm still at the beginning so I have the option to go either way. Haven't invested much into units at this point. I know they both have uses but across the difficult content what General has more utility? Cid is much much weaker than Lancelot, simply because in most cases he will be attacking once-twice per turn, while Lancelot (even though he has lower title) is a machine gun. But it is valid for now. There is a possibility that Woad+Ravenna will not provide sufficient amount of damage in the end-game content. It is possible to switch to Mamluks+Mongolian instead to get same mobility buffs, but movement malus could negate mobility advantage. So, short answer: it is difficult to say whether Cid will be worse or not. P.S.: I use Lancelot with Melee cav (Camel riders, as Lancelot benefits from sword skill) and Atilla with War axe cav (for the bonuses of this particular unit). But it is for conquests. When I was playing campaigns I was using another archer unit for firepower. Conquests are easier. This is really useful info. I won't be purchasing Atilla but will try out the Lancelot combo you mentioned. |
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Post by andrei on Apr 28, 2022 14:03:25 GMT
Cid is much much weaker than Lancelot, simply because in most cases he will be attacking once-twice per turn, while Lancelot (even though he has lower title) is a machine gun. But it is valid for now. There is a possibility that Woad+Ravenna will not provide sufficient amount of damage in the end-game content. It is possible to switch to Mamluks+Mongolian instead to get same mobility buffs, but movement malus could negate mobility advantage. So, short answer: it is difficult to say whether Cid will be worse or not. P.S.: I use Lancelot with Melee cav (Camel riders, as Lancelot benefits from sword skill) and Atilla with War axe cav (for the bonuses of this particular unit). But it is for conquests. When I was playing campaigns I was using another archer unit for firepower. Conquests are easier. This is really useful info. I won't be purchasing Atilla but will try out the Lancelot combo you mentioned. BTW I use Cid's unique weapon with Lancelot right now. It provides only half of the bonuses it gives to Cid, but it is better than nothing anyway. |
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