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Post by YDE on May 5, 2022 20:50:10 GMT
My younger brother asked me if a balanced team was optimal. I told him it all depends really, and he told me he wanted arch/cav com team, and he said he'd use Atilla, Suri (awak), and Saladin for cav, nobby, Nelson, and Li for arch, Bismarck for arty, and Bobby for infantry.
Imo the lack of a second arty is a bad idea, and having two different com teams fighting for rage is also bad. He loves cav more, so do you think 3 cav, 2 arch, 2 arty, 1 infantry is better, or 2 inf and 1 arch? Or a different setup entirely. Wanna hear your thoughts. He doesn't care about price. (No IAPS, but he did ask if Saladin is better than genghis. I use genghis as a healer with BoL but he argued Saladin is better with BoL because anti arch for both defense and offense [he's assuming Saladin keeps his shield skill], so that's another question worth answering)
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Post by Iron Duke on May 6, 2022 7:59:21 GMT
My younger brother asked me if a balanced team was optimal. I told him it all depends really, and he told me he wanted arch/cav com team, and he said he'd use Atilla, Suri (awak), and Saladin for cav, nobby, Nelson, and Li for arch, Bismarck for arty, and Bobby for infantry. Imo the lack of a second arty is a bad idea, and having two different com teams fighting for rage is also bad. He loves cav more, so do you think 3 cav, 2 arch, 2 arty, 1 infantry is better, or 2 inf and 1 arch? Or a different setup entirely. Wanna hear your thoughts. He doesn't care about price. (No IAPS, but he did ask if Saladin is better than genghis. I use genghis as a healer with BoL but he argued Saladin is better with BoL because anti arch for both defense and offense [he's assuming Saladin keeps his shield skill], so that's another question worth answering) The first 6 were in my team for my recent game, along with Li S & Hua, so the arch/cav com part works. My concern with adding Bobby is that nobody is buffed by his Commander skill and he isn't buffed by anyone else's. Finally, I had the first 2 artefacts on Sally & Nobby, but who gets Thunder in that lineup? |
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Post by yuanzhong on May 6, 2022 9:02:23 GMT
My younger brother asked me if a balanced team was optimal. I told him it all depends really, and he told me he wanted arch/cav com team, and he said he'd use Atilla, Suri (awak), and Saladin for cav, nobby, Nelson, and Li for arch, Bismarck for arty, and Bobby for infantry. Imo the lack of a second arty is a bad idea, and having two different com teams fighting for rage is also bad. He loves cav more, so do you think 3 cav, 2 arch, 2 arty, 1 infantry is better, or 2 inf and 1 arch? Or a different setup entirely. Wanna hear your thoughts. He doesn't care about price. (No IAPS, but he did ask if Saladin is better than genghis. I use genghis as a healer with BoL but he argued Saladin is better with BoL because anti arch for both defense and offense [he's assuming Saladin keeps his shield skill], so that's another question worth answering) About Genghis vs Saladin as healer and in overall view. Genghis has better attack, better advantage (100% vs inf and 50% vs Arch while Saladin has only 50% vs Archer), Saladin with his unique item can be equalize this. About damage received, Khan doesn't get retaliation but Saladin has, and you attack (and get retaliation) more than be attacked while using Cavalry gen, and getting more retaliation means you have more chance to receive debuff from enemies (EW5 follow old mechanism of retalation, enemies still counter attack when they die right after your attack and it is even more annoying). BoL user should keep his atk high to boost rage and avoid enemies' disable debuff. So I think Khan is better than Saladin as both BoL keeper and Cav gen. |
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Post by YDE on May 6, 2022 11:59:43 GMT
My younger brother asked me if a balanced team was optimal. I told him it all depends really, and he told me he wanted arch/cav com team, and he said he'd use Atilla, Suri (awak), and Saladin for cav, nobby, Nelson, and Li for arch, Bismarck for arty, and Bobby for infantry. Imo the lack of a second arty is a bad idea, and having two different com teams fighting for rage is also bad. He loves cav more, so do you think 3 cav, 2 arch, 2 arty, 1 infantry is better, or 2 inf and 1 arch? Or a different setup entirely. Wanna hear your thoughts. He doesn't care about price. (No IAPS, but he did ask if Saladin is better than genghis. I use genghis as a healer with BoL but he argued Saladin is better with BoL because anti arch for both defense and offense [he's assuming Saladin keeps his shield skill], so that's another question worth answering) The first 6 were in my team for my recent game, along with Li S & Hua, so the arch/cav com part works. My concern with adding Bobby is that nobody is buffed by his Commander skill and he isn't buffed by anyone else's. Finally, I had the first 2 artefacts on Sally & Nobby, but who gets Thunder in that lineup? I think his logic is that he'd give Thunder to Bobby. If I was going to use this team, I'd replace Li H with Washington, Sally with Genghis. Washington would have Gungnir, Nobby Myst, Bobby thunder. I think he chose Bobby because he has leadership, and no other infantry gen has that. |
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Post by YDE on May 6, 2022 12:02:25 GMT
My younger brother asked me if a balanced team was optimal. I told him it all depends really, and he told me he wanted arch/cav com team, and he said he'd use Atilla, Suri (awak), and Saladin for cav, nobby, Nelson, and Li for arch, Bismarck for arty, and Bobby for infantry. Imo the lack of a second arty is a bad idea, and having two different com teams fighting for rage is also bad. He loves cav more, so do you think 3 cav, 2 arch, 2 arty, 1 infantry is better, or 2 inf and 1 arch? Or a different setup entirely. Wanna hear your thoughts. He doesn't care about price. (No IAPS, but he did ask if Saladin is better than genghis. I use genghis as a healer with BoL but he argued Saladin is better with BoL because anti arch for both defense and offense [he's assuming Saladin keeps his shield skill], so that's another question worth answering) About Genghis vs Saladin as healer and in overall view. Genghis has better attack, better advantage (100% vs inf and 50% vs Arch while Saladin has only 50% vs Archer), Saladin with his unique item can be equalize this. About damage received, Khan doesn't get retaliation but Saladin has, and you attack (and get retaliation) more than be attacked while using Cavalry gen, and getting more retaliation means you have more chance to receive debuff from enemies (EW5 follow old mechanism of retalation, enemies still counter attack when they die right after your attack and it is even more annoying). BoL user should keep his atk high to boost rage and avoid enemies' disable debuff. So I think Khan is better than Saladin as both BoL keeper and Cav gen. Yeah I agree, but I see his logic with Log. Killing the enemy will get Sally hurt, but log will cover that, but yeah, I don't think he put the debuffs into consideration. He doesn't quite understand that the enemy can debuff you as well lol but yeah I agree Genghis better BoL (Attila, too, if you aren't running cav com and no Genghis) |
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Post by jonblend on May 6, 2022 12:48:41 GMT
My younger brother asked me if a balanced team was optimal. I told him it all depends really, and he told me he wanted arch/cav com team, and he said he'd use Atilla, Suri (awak), and Saladin for cav, nobby, Nelson, and Li for arch, Bismarck for arty, and Bobby for infantry. Imo the lack of a second arty is a bad idea, and having two different com teams fighting for rage is also bad. He loves cav more, so do you think 3 cav, 2 arch, 2 arty, 1 infantry is better, or 2 inf and 1 arch? Or a different setup entirely. Wanna hear your thoughts. He doesn't care about price. (No IAPS, but he did ask if Saladin is better than genghis. I use genghis as a healer with BoL but he argued Saladin is better with BoL because anti arch for both defense and offense [he's assuming Saladin keeps his shield skill], so that's another question worth answering) That is a good team and Barbarossa is a useful mid game general who can make up for not having Li Hongzhang and Pachacuti yet. With Cleo and Khalid being the only early game artillery options, I doubt they will not be added. Likewise, including Moctezuma (at least temporarily) is always beneficial. The question is more how long are they useful for the amount of medals you invest in them. The balanced team relies less on healing because it excels at dealing damage from range (ideally without taking damage) and then mopping up with cavalry who have either braveness or logistics/plunder. |
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Post by YDE on May 6, 2022 13:28:14 GMT
My younger brother asked me if a balanced team was optimal. I told him it all depends really, and he told me he wanted arch/cav com team, and he said he'd use Atilla, Suri (awak), and Saladin for cav, nobby, Nelson, and Li for arch, Bismarck for arty, and Bobby for infantry. Imo the lack of a second arty is a bad idea, and having two different com teams fighting for rage is also bad. He loves cav more, so do you think 3 cav, 2 arch, 2 arty, 1 infantry is better, or 2 inf and 1 arch? Or a different setup entirely. Wanna hear your thoughts. He doesn't care about price. (No IAPS, but he did ask if Saladin is better than genghis. I use genghis as a healer with BoL but he argued Saladin is better with BoL because anti arch for both defense and offense [he's assuming Saladin keeps his shield skill], so that's another question worth answering) That is a good team and Barbarossa is a useful mid game general who can make up for not having Li Hongzhang and Pachacuti yet. With Cleo and Khalid being the only early game artillery options, I doubt they will not be added. Likewise, including Moctezuma (at least temporarily) is always beneficial. The question is more how long are they useful for the amount of medals you invest in them. The balanced team relies less on healing because it excels at dealing damage from range (ideally without taking damage) and then mopping up with cavalry who have either braveness or logistics/plunder. Very true, but healing can be useful nonetheless. One healer (genghis BoL) might not be enough. Thanks for your feedback, though |
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