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Post by 6Johnny23 on May 20, 2022 12:18:31 GMT
Should conquistadors be added?
Which spearman should I go with?
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Post by stoic on May 20, 2022 12:43:09 GMT
Should conquistadors be added? Which spearman should I go with? I think that offensive-minded Narses should have Mongolian raiders/Woad raiders and Ravenna crossbowmen. While defensive-minded should be fine with Conquistadors and Ravenna. Garrison spearmen is a weak unit, but it has some survivability and 20% is a significant bonus for his archers to ignore it. But a pure Archer composition is also possible, I believe. For example, Ravenna + Conquistadors + Mongols We have an average speed 10, and forest' and mountains' movement. With Rhinoceros it should interesting enough. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on May 23, 2022 22:15:59 GMT
Should conquistadors be added? Which spearman should I go with? Yes, conquistadors of course, and Ravenna, and best mellee cavalry. We need 11 nor 10 for this general, we can use defense infantry, even which he need garrison infantry, but conquistadors and mellee cavalry with 11.   It's not the best, but I don't have gold for use him best, he is my best 3 general who do best all round with this specs even. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 23, 2022 22:25:33 GMT
Garrison-Mongolian-Ravenna should be the best lineup for Narses. Since we don't have access to Mongolian yet, Woad should do for now.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 23, 2022 22:27:35 GMT
Should conquistadors be added? Which spearman should I go with? I think that offensive-minded Narses should have Mongolian raiders/Woad raiders and Ravenna crossbowmen. While defensive-minded should be fine with Conquistadors and Ravenna. Garrison spearmen is a weak unit, but it has some survivability and 20% is a significant bonus for his archers to ignore it. But a pure Archer composition is also possible, I believe. For example, Ravenna + Conquistadors + Mongols We have an average speed 10, and forest' and mountains' movement. With Rhinoceros it should interesting enough. Rhinoceros won't give Narses the chance for an extra hit, so we'd better giving it to someone else. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on May 23, 2022 22:30:35 GMT
I think that offensive-minded Narses should have Mongolian raiders/Woad raiders and Ravenna crossbowmen. While defensive-minded should be fine with Conquistadors and Ravenna. Garrison spearmen is a weak unit, but it has some survivability and 20% is a significant bonus for his archers to ignore it. But a pure Archer composition is also possible, I believe. For example, Ravenna + Conquistadors + Mongols We have an average speed 10, and forest' and mountains' movement. With Rhinoceros it should interesting enough. Rhinoceros won't give Narses the chance for an extra hit, so we'd better giving it to someone else. We need more time, but Narses top3 from generals non IAP. We need to replace War axe for actual mellee cavalry, and Ravenna for conquistadors. But we need more time, and even now He is one of the best general who can made mood work with all other generals. And formation 3 level very usefull. PS. It's Rokossovskiy who win WWII. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 24, 2022 5:02:35 GMT
Rhinoceros won't give Narses the chance for an extra hit, so we'd better giving it to someone else. We need more time, but Narses top3 from generals non IAP. We need to replace War axe for actual mellee cavalry, and Ravenna for conquistadors. But we need more time, and even now He is one of the best general who can made mood work with all other generals. And formation 3 level very usefull. PS. It's Rokossovskiy who win WWII. His skill set and unique item have already bounded him to archer. You can totally use it on Aetius instead, but I don't think that lineup on Narses is a very good idea. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 24, 2022 15:13:30 GMT
I use Garrison Spearman, Woad Raiders and Ravenna Crossbowman. In my mind, he feels more squishy compared to El Cid who has a Varangian Guard instead of a Garrison Spearman.
An offensive oriented Narses who performs well. In most cases, he can move once and hit twice afterwards.
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on May 24, 2022 18:52:03 GMT
We need more time, but Narses top3 from generals non IAP. We need to replace War axe for actual mellee cavalry, and Ravenna for conquistadors. But we need more time, and even now He is one of the best general who can made mood work with all other generals. And formation 3 level very usefull. PS. It's Rokossovskiy who win WWII. His skill set and unique item have already bounded him to archer. You can totally use it on Aetius instead, but I don't think that lineup on Narses is a very good idea. He is mostly defence infantry general, not archer, 1 slot for conquistadors we need to deal more damage per turn, no more, 1 slot melee cavalry we need to attack 3-4 times per turn, 1 slot for the best defence infantry, with bond with Belisarius it's the best choice. PS. 3 non IAP general for now, Cnut and Basil aren't better. Like Rokossovskiy better then Mainstein, Stalin better then Hitler, Cherchill, Roosevelt.  |
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Post by truhses on May 24, 2022 19:11:05 GMT
He is mostly defence infantry general, not archer, 1 slot for conquistadors we need to deal more damage per turn, no more, 1 slot melee cavalry we need to attack 3-4 times per turn, 1 slot for the best defence infantry, with bond with Belisarius it's the best choice. PS. 3 non IAP general for now, Cnut and Basil aren't better. Like Rokossovskiy better then Mainstein, Stalin better then Hitler, Cherchill, Roosevelt, Putin better Merkel, Macron, even lovely Trump. PPS. Maybe Lee Kuan Yew better then Putin, sometimes.  I can't figure out how melee cavalry will attack 3-4 times per turn without Ravenna and woad. P.S. Your post about politics has already been deleted, does not provoke further .... P.P.S. And do not compare green with salty. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on May 24, 2022 19:35:39 GMT
PPS. Maybe Lee Kuan Yew better then Putin, sometimes. I can't figure out how melee cavalry will attack 3-4 times per turn without Ravenna and woad. P.S. Your post about politics has already been deleted, does not provoke further .... P.P.S. And do not compare green with salty. Okay. 👌 PS. We need 11-12 mellee cavalry for that, maybe hussars will be 12, not only scout cavalry, non archer with speed 9-10. |
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Post by truhses on May 24, 2022 23:32:21 GMT
I can't figure out how melee cavalry will attack 3-4 times per turn without Ravenna and woad. P.S. Your post about politics has already been deleted, does not provoke further .... P.P.S. And do not compare green with salty. Okay. 👌 PS. We need 11-12 mellee cavalry for that, maybe hussars will be 12, not only scout cavalry, non archer with speed 9-10. If I'm not mistaken, the attack cost is 6, so cavalry with mobility 12 attacks 2 times.... |
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Post by unnoble1cavalry on May 26, 2022 18:00:53 GMT
I personally have 2 ravenna and heavy philanex. That may not be the best but its what I got. I personally don't see much need in archer cavalry wher ei am rn as I only have the standerd archer favalry
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 26, 2022 23:00:10 GMT
His skill set and unique item have already bounded him to archer. You can totally use it on Aetius instead, but I don't think that lineup on Narses is a very good idea. He is mostly defence infantry general, not archer, 1 slot for conquistadors we need to deal more damage per turn, no more, 1 slot melee cavalry we need to attack 3-4 times per turn, 1 slot for the best defence infantry, with bond with Belisarius it's the best choice. PS. 3 non IAP general for now, Cnut and Basil aren't better. Like Rokossovskiy better then Mainstein, Stalin better then Hitler, Cherchill, Roosevelt.  There's no such thing as a "defense infantry general." You can't rely on defense infantry to deal damage. Narses' benefits the most from having archer units so that's how we should build his legion. Any archer general can attack 3 times per turn without moving if they have 10+ movement, Mobilize, and Repeated Fire. For Narses, Woad/Mongolian + Ravenna will allow him to have 10 movement and both legion effects, in addition to Chase (from Garrison) and Climb. Cavalry + archer will only make you attack 3 times if the archer is Woad or Mongolian, but then replacing the cavalry unit with a Repeated Fire archer can make your Narses more specialized and still do the same thing. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 26, 2022 23:09:09 GMT
I use Garrison Spearman, Woad Raiders and Ravenna Crossbowman. In my mind, he feels more squishy compared to El Cid who has a Varangian Guard instead of a Garrison Spearman. An offensive oriented Narses who performs well. In most cases, he can move once and hit twice afterwards. After all Garrison is a T3 unit, and it's not even stats wise a strong T3. It only has an edge against Varangians if you are fighting charge cav. |
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