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Post by generalfeldmarschall on Sept 11, 2022 8:16:55 GMT
Should I buy 580 or should i wait for the next update
and save some medals for maybe gens
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Post by Ralyks on Sept 11, 2022 8:52:46 GMT
What I did is buy a bunch of Merc orders but not use them yet, waiting for the next update.
The next sale will be in a month which is very far, as I'm expecting the update to hit this week or the one after, and 50% sale on these items is too good, so while I don't think ET will change the discount or price of these, if they do, IMO they'll be worse.
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Post by generalfeldmarschall on Sept 11, 2022 9:09:17 GMT
Well Guess I will use 4000 Or should I Buy the blue purple and yellow equipment found in the normal shop Ralyks , |
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Post by stoic on Sept 11, 2022 9:40:39 GMT
Well Guess I will use 4000 Or should I Buy the blue purple and yellow equipment found in the normal shop Ralyks , The blue equipment is seriously outdated (there are a couple of exceptions though). |
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Post by verily on Sept 11, 2022 11:15:18 GMT
If you need to upgrade/unlock units buy it now, if not then pass it. It will have again next month.
I used 10000medals to buy discounted merc orders last month and i have not yet acquired the equivalent medals i use via daily quest/territory/expedition/ads.
I will pass this sale for new generals next update.
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Post by generalfeldmarschall on Sept 11, 2022 13:29:53 GMT
If you need to upgrade/unlock units buy it now, if not then pass it. It will have again next month. I used 10000medals to buy discounted merc orders last month and i have not yet acquired the equivalent medals i use via daily quest/territory/expedition/ads. I will pass this sale for new generals next update. my highest unit is varangian lvl 8 so should I? |
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Post by verily on Sept 11, 2022 14:27:55 GMT
If you need to upgrade/unlock units buy it now, if not then pass it. It will have again next month. I used 10000medals to buy discounted merc orders last month and i have not yet acquired the equivalent medals i use via daily quest/territory/expedition/ads. I will pass this sale for new generals next update. my highest unit is varangian lvl 8 so should I? it depends on you if you need much higher lvl to finish things. if you can, hold it for next update. im guessing we have 4-5 premium general for next update and 3 of them (robert the bruce, john I ,either sulieman or mehmed) available for f2p |
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Post by playeruser37 on Sept 11, 2022 15:23:18 GMT
it depends on you if you need much higher lvl to finish things. if you can, hold it for next update. im guessing we have 4-5 premium general for next update and 3 of them (robert the bruce, john I ,either sulieman or mehmed) available for f2p . I think there can be more generals added in The 1.8. update , but this is only my opinion . |
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Post by kingbutawl on Sept 12, 2022 19:04:29 GMT
I tried to buy 1000 mercenary orders with my spare medals and I’d say it’s a bad investment if you’re not gonna work hard on rerolling. But even doing as much rerolls as you want, you’ll get less than buying those 2k medals packs of 10 fragments each they sell.
For example In 1000 scrolls I got 9 Templars fragments (and a lot of other t6 shards I didn’t need), but I could have bought around 90 fragments with the same amount of medals, giving a solid improvement to my army.
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Post by Ralyks on Sept 13, 2022 11:41:33 GMT
Were you expecting to get the same or similar amount of Templars with simple reroll? Really? Literally chances are given ingame. Its a guaranteed at least 1 advanced troop per x10 roll. Sometimes you may get two. For me, advanced shows 17 troops (depends on game progress and troops unlocked already), meaning its a 5.9% chance to get templar. Or you need to get 17 advanced troops to get (on average) a templar. With that amount of scrolls you used, lets assume the statistic chances are the final values (which from my testing, it is wrong, you get better troops that it states, surely not 50% of lower tier (normal) troops), this costing 1750 medals: 1000 mercenary scrolls are 100x10 pulls, this gives --100 guaranteed advanced troops --900*0.1=90 advanced troops (so 190 in total), each scraps for 25 or 36, averaging 30.5 scrap each, meaning 5795 scrap --900*0.4=360 medium troops - each scraps for 9 or 16, averaging 12.5 scrap each, meaning 4500 scrap --900*0.5=450 normal troops - each scraps for 4, meaning 1800 scrap All adds to 12095 scrap. Templars cost 200 each, meaning 60.5 templars. This doesn't consider the bonus you get for every 25 rolls and considers you're scrapping the templars you get, which you shouldn't. Both of this should raise the final value of templars you get. While buying discounted templars give you 10 templars for 2400*0.9= 2160 medals. So yes, in terms of templars, you get way less directly. But you also get A LOT of other troops (and the every 25 rolls bonus), which you can scrap to get templars (or whichever troop you want).
Considering the outcome, it is better to buy scrolls even when no sale than buying templars directly. While on sale, its a no-brainer though, as templars get a 10% while M. Orders get a 50%.
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Post by kingbutawl on Sept 13, 2022 12:03:26 GMT
Ralyks Your analysis is good on paper, but requires a rather unconventional dedication to "single re-roll" or other things most players don't have. I'm more of a content-enjoyer myself  . Surely I won't dismantle anything, because in this way I wouldn't complete POH from upgrading every unit I can (even those I don't use) and I really want the unique item for Subutai (the only thing to make him a carry). The only useful thing from 1000 scrolls is, as you wisely pointed out, the occasion to gain more points in POH and as for now they give you not so many levels for Subutai's weapon. They rumor ET is going to adjust the requirements for many prizes and I wouldn't consider a massive medal investment in scrolls, as for now, a fixed guarantee. Maybe you could test how much time you have to reroll to get at least 1 teamplar each 10 pulls (or 1 each single rerolls).
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Post by playeruser37 on Sept 13, 2022 12:53:10 GMT
Ralyks Your analysis is good on paper, but requires a rather unconventional dedication to "single re-roll" or other things most players don't have. I'm more of a content-enjoyer myself . Surely I won't dismantle anything, because in this way I wouldn't complete POH from upgrading every unit I can (even those I don't use) and I really want the unique item for Subutai (the only thing to make him a carry). The only useful thing from 1000 scrolls is, as you wisely pointed out, the occasion to gain more points in POH and as for now they give you not so many levels for Subutai's weapon. They rumor ET is going to adjust the requirements for many prizes and I wouldn't consider a massive medal investment in scrolls, as for now, a fixed guarantee. Maybe you could test how much time you have to reroll to get at least 1 teamplar each 10 pulls (or 1 each single rerolls). . They will addjust requirements for prizes like with Alexios weapon ? To get IT You neded to upgrade special weapons 180 Times , but after The 1.6.update , now IT is only 120 Times . |
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Post by stoic on Sept 13, 2022 12:58:04 GMT
As a person who is passionate about dismantling almost everything I can support kingbutawl as well. Rerolling process is extremely boring and requires inhumane patience that many of us don't possess  If your name is not yuanzhong I wouldn't expect brilliant results from rerolling 😉 |
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Post by jonblend on Sept 13, 2022 14:39:25 GMT
It should be 17,500 medals for 1000 scrolls if we buy 10 for 175 medals, Ralyks , Also the mechanics are imo not totally correct, we get the guaranteed t5/t6 only if it's not part of the 10 pull and not the other way around (<->one guaranteed and then 10% chance on top for a second). And templars for souls is one of the worst t6 deals, so if we want them, it's better to get them from territory shop. This is usually the best way to get a single unit type (less medals but some luck as far as what appears in the shop compared to buying 10 fragments directly).
The charm of mercenary orders is that we get more potentially useful units than just templars. Though not hunting for them, unlocking Keshig will help all rapid march support generals, as well as hospitalier and teutonic knights. Boyars are welcome for Nevsky and other charge cav gens. Collecting Mongolian raiders might or might not benefit Subutai. Newer players certainly are happy if varangians and noble cav are part of the results. And I wouldn't throw away lombardy halberdiers before we see how good Robert the Bruce is. Compared to having to buy them (for example templars and one or more of the t5 units mentioned above) with medals or silver coins, mercenary orders provide much more value.
But that's like selling one of your many cars: You get the money on the market for a used car but in order to get a new one you'd have to pay much more. So its value is more about maintenance cost and how much you actually use it. Now you either find justified purposes for all of the less used ones or only drive one/two main cars like stoic does.
Oh and I consider myself a casual re-roller who does excessive sessions from time to time (last when templars were released) but mostly I don't use my resources unless they are needed to progress or there is a good opportunity to trade them.
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Post by kingbutawl on Sept 13, 2022 15:47:44 GMT
Ralyks Your analysis is good on paper, but requires a rather unconventional dedication to "single re-roll" or other things most players don't have. I'm more of a content-enjoyer myself . Surely I won't dismantle anything, because in this way I wouldn't complete POH from upgrading every unit I can (even those I don't use) and I really want the unique item for Subutai (the only thing to make him a carry). The only useful thing from 1000 scrolls is, as you wisely pointed out, the occasion to gain more points in POH and as for now they give you not so many levels for Subutai's weapon. They rumor ET is going to adjust the requirements for many prizes and I wouldn't consider a massive medal investment in scrolls, as for now, a fixed guarantee. Maybe you could test how much time you have to reroll to get at least 1 teamplar each 10 pulls (or 1 each single rerolls). . They will addjust requirements for prizes like with Alexios weapon ? To get IT You neded to upgrade special weapons 180 Times , but after The 1.6.update , now IT is only 120 Times . [ Yes, because (as for now) only with Charles you can reach Subutai’s unique without getting extremely lazy. With a ludicrous amount of useless unit’s fragments From the above mentioned 1000 scrolls I only got 2 levels in POH (LOL!) |
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