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Post by blueberry on Oct 21, 2022 22:26:01 GMT
Upgrade cost of the princesses' jewelry: 1 -> 2 ....... 150 medals and 30 crown coins 2 -> 3 ...... 240 and 45 3 -> 4 ....... 360 and 60 4 -> 5 ...... 450 and 80 5 -> 6 ...... 600 and 100 6 -> 7 ...... 700 and 120 7 -> 8 ...... 750 and 140 8 -> 9 ....... 800 and 160 9 -> 10 ...... 850 and 180 I upgraded only Maria's, but I suppose the cost is the same for all 4 jewels. And clearly we will have to buy crown coins in the castle, if we want to max them all. From the trails we can get only 1200 (400*3) + 90 (5 cc for every battle completed with 3 stars) Sophia 3->4 is 360 medals and 80 cc, lets hope the medals (which are a lot already) stay at least the same for all of them. I upgraded Maria's item to lvl 9 and she is still cannon fodder. At least for these hard missions. Big waste of medals. I also wasted medals on bringing Caesar's Heal master from 5 to 10, when I'm still usjng him with Thunder + discovery badge. No wonder that I'm at 2700 medals, now And after upgrading Suleiman to lvl 7 I will be totally broke once again...
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Post by blueberry on Oct 21, 2022 23:02:17 GMT
This time i used the cloud save to max it:
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Post by visiel on Oct 22, 2022 19:12:27 GMT
Thanks bro. Full leveled Maria sucks and I bet it will be the same with other princesses.
So the stats of my lv 55 Maria is 1479 HP, 473 Atk, 287 Def, 18 speed Stats of lv 70 Maria is 1977HP, 590 Atk, 338 Def, 22 speed.
it will costs 2.4K medals and 480 crown coins from lvl 7 to 10. It's not much of an improvement. I bet I will do it when I have some spare medals on hand, but not now lol
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Post by sh88 on Oct 23, 2022 0:38:37 GMT
Thanks bro. Full leveled Maria sucks and I bet it will be the same with other princesses. So the stats of my lv 55 Maria is 1479 HP, 473 Atk, 287 Def, 18 speed Stats of lv 70 Maria is 1977HP, 590 Atk, 338 Def, 22 speed. it will costs 2.4K medals and 480 crown coins from lvl 7 to 10. It's not much of an improvement. I bet I will do it when I have some spare medals on hand, but not now lol I think their value must be evaluated related to their role. It's true that by stats they are merely not more than a grey general, but on the other hand they don't une any slot and at the moment allow you to deploy 12 generals in campaign/UST nera trail where you can normally deploy 8. And we all now how much every single help, item or turn count in those missions. Also the banner slot that they use can be easily sacrifice since there are only 5-6 badge that are really useful to equip, the rest (like +60/+40 attack etc) is absolutely sacrificable for a free general. They aureas and active also looks quite powerful to me, so in general they must be considered a grey general with support/debuff role...not bad at all
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Post by visiel on Oct 23, 2022 4:58:23 GMT
They are definitely useful, but not needed to max if you are tight on medals. Lvl 7 is okish. Their active is good, but you will have to wait full 5 turns before using them. At late game, it's average. Elizabeth's active Anna's Active Not sure what blast mean. Picture are not mine, collect from discord
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Post by sh88 on Oct 23, 2022 10:18:06 GMT
Someone have advice for Patras 4? Is not difficult by itself, but seems like another archer trail8, the time is so strict!! I cannot kill the snake even at turn 17, my Belisarius and Leonidas stay at lvl 20, Khalid at lvl 60, the rest at 70
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Post by blueberry on Oct 23, 2022 11:53:22 GMT
Someone have advice for Patras 4? Is not difficult by itself, but seems like another archer trail8, the time is so strict!! I cannot kill the snake even at turn 17, my Belisarius and Leonidas stay at lvl 20, Khalid at lvl 60, the rest at 70 Patras 4 is the hardest of that trail, imo. I got 2 stars and my generals are all super troops except for Belisarius at lvl 6. I still need to figure out the best path. You'll see that also Patras 5 is very tight with the given turns, but it's a bit easier, I did it with Columbus and Kemal both at lvl 5. Patras 6 is quite easy. Try to have the hit of your generals at least at 500, I noticed that they miss quite frequently even at 400 or so. One missed hit can make the difference between 2 and 3 stars. But the real pain are Isle of Man 5 and 6...
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Post by dain on Oct 23, 2022 13:31:55 GMT
They are definitely useful, but not needed to max if you are tight on medals. Lvl 7 is okish. Their active is good, but you will have to wait full 5 turns before using them. At late game, it's average. Not sure what blast mean. Picture are not mine, collect from discord Elisabeth is reducing enemy's evasion - which can be nice against missed hits. (I hope on level 10 the decrease could be at least 80 percent).
I suppose blast rate will raise the "critical hit probability" of nearby friendly units. (And lets hope level 10 lets you raise it to 95 percent for 3 turns, and in 2 hex radius :-)
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Post by blueberry on Oct 23, 2022 19:05:45 GMT
PATRAS 4 Setup of the generals (inevitably) used: Belisarius could probably be kept at lvl 5, he wasn't really useful and he almost died anyway. sh88, as I said in my previous post, the "hit" stat must be quite high. With this setup I didn't miss a hit. Initially Caesar had the discovery badge, but then I switched to the archery badge because it gives some hit. And Cleopatra had the Solar Sword, but I switched to Genghis's item for the same reason. On turn 1, Caesar, Alexander, Khalid and Cleopatra must be ready to land (I had Khalid take the mine damage, since he has the golden mask). These generals will go eastward and kill Hela. It's better to keep moving the generals and prepare them to embark again asap. I used Young-hee on the building near Hela and I placed Alexander there. The other generals go south and then along the coast. Suleiman helps killing the archer general, then starts going south with Belisarius. After killing Hela, Cleopatra and Khalid go directly south. Alexander, Caesar and Leonidas go south-west to kill the snake. I had Alexander build his rage by attacking the artillery general on the central island. He used Gungnir twice, once on Hela and once on the snake. Caesar used thunder only once on the snake. Suleiman used Mystletainn only on the southern Hela. After killing the southern Hela, Cleopatra embarked again and could hit the snake once. Suleiman didn't make it in time to be useful against it.
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Post by stoic on Oct 24, 2022 7:15:30 GMT
How do we summon a Princess on the battlefield? I bought earrings, started a regular campaign and... it happens nothing.
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Post by blueberry on Oct 24, 2022 9:10:46 GMT
How do we summon a Princess on the battlefield? I bought earrings, started a regular campaign and... it happens nothing. Equip the jewel where you equip the badges. Now the general will have a button to deploy the princess, similar to the button to activate skills. But if you deploy the princess, you can no longer attack with that general on that turn
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Post by jonblend on Oct 25, 2022 5:25:32 GMT
ISLE OF MAN 5 (3 stars without Napoleon)
(2 stars was possible with lv6 aura on Petain, lower levels of logistics and no healing aura on Joan and no princesses.)
The strategy is rather difficult to describe; it's about finding a balance between eliminating dangerous enemies, ignoring some in order to meet the turn limit and creating a path for Arthur (who will join later) and Athena while also making sure that cohesion of our group of generals is maintained. The free slot goes to Pachacuti who's simply the best: aura, leadership, range and attacking again. As you'll see, having equipment that supports rage accumulation is also a key factor. Princess Sophia can help with this and Maria debuffs strong generals.
The first 5 turns should be spent to free your generals from their starting positions. Move Joan over to Richard, Petain attacks the big wolf and Pacha runs over to help Nelson. Summon princesses if you see an opportunity and then concentrate on the Wolf/Minotaur roadblock.
Next is a passage that leads to some buildings where a target Minotaur resides. Killing him will free Arthur [turn 11]. While this should be done asap, make sure to kill/cripple as much as you can, using artifact skills and auras (always use Nelson and Pacha in conjunction) which can be used freely as long as you also get kills. That is to say check the info on enemy generals and if they have -50% dmg from archers then attack them last with Pacha or with infantry instead.
Now it's time to focus on killing enemies and also making sure that Athena and Arthur can attack red circle/target units, otherwise they move around stupidly and attack random enemies.
After the bottleneck south of the lonely house is cleared (and also the second and third target minotaur) [turn 17], there is no more time to be wasted. Rush south, kill the 4th target along the way and enter the spiral path that leads to Hel [turn 20]. She tends to attack Pacha if allowed so keep a distance of 4 hexes to the central building with him. The rest of the team can tank her hits well so no need to be cautious. Slow moving princesses can be left behind to prevent some of the newly arrived tank generals from entering the final area.
Once you or Arthur has cleared the last roadblock in the form of Robin Hood there is no more need for evading/holding back. Unleash all skills you might have left and hopefully get the item to summon Elizabeth.
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Post by dain on Oct 25, 2022 12:56:34 GMT
Finished Isle of man 5 and 6.
In chapter 5, you indeed must keep the road clear to proceed into the center. Avoid any unnecessary fights (except primal targets). I finished it barely in time.
Chapter 6 was easier than 5. Again, you have to be quick, avoid any unnecessary fights, and blitz to destroy primal targets.
Most of my units are at level 60, and I don't have any Ust-Nera items.
On the other hand, I am still not able to pass Kazan 4 and Patras 4...
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Post by sh88 on Oct 25, 2022 13:17:11 GMT
Finished Isle of man 5 and 6. In chapter 5, you indeed must keep the road clear to proceed into the center. Avoid any unnecessary fights (except primal targets). I finished it barely in time. Chapter 6 was easier than 5. Again, you have to be quick, avoid any unnecessary fights, and blitz to destroy primal targets. Most of my units are at level 60, and I don't have any Ust-Nera items. On the other hand, I am still not able to pass Kazan 4 and Patras 4... Exactly the same, the island of man I managed same strategy as your blitz-avoid-block, in Kazan 4 I'm waiting because I don't have Charlemagne and blucher, in Patras 4 I'm stuck and I'm waiting to level up Leonidas, Belisarius and Khalid
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Post by blueberry on Oct 25, 2022 19:28:10 GMT
I just finished all the trails. jonblend, yes, the problem with Isle of Man 5 is that Athena and Arthur keep going back and forth, and all the enemy generals are a big hindrance, also because they can cross the sea tiles and we can't. But eventually it's not as hard as it seemed on my first attempt. I used Nobunaga instead of Pachacuti, because his spy helps immensely with all those high-defense generals. And no princesses. The players with Napoleon probably will not struggle at all... So, when is the next update?
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