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Post by sh88 on Oct 25, 2022 22:24:01 GMT
I just finished all the trails. jonblend, yes, the problem with Isle of Man 5 is that Athena and Arthur keep going back and forth, and all the enemy generals are a big hindrance, also because they can cross the sea tiles and we can't. But eventually it's not as hard as it seemed on my first attempt. I used Nobunaga instead of Pachacuti, because his spy helps immensely with all those high-defense generals. And no princesses. The players with Napoleon probably will not struggle at all... So, when is the next update?  You rock!!!😅😅😅 I really hope that they won't stop updating this game, I think there are enough features to be improved for 1-2 years |
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Post by jonblend on Oct 25, 2022 23:42:40 GMT
I just finished all the trails. So, when is the next update? Haha  now all you can do is save up on medals again since (also @ sh88,) there will probably come more trials for the other princesses. If you're up for it there might be one more thing to explore - the stats, skills and upgrade costs of princesses and their summoning items.
Of course only with saving and then loading from the cloud as this investment might not be worth it. (So far I can say they have different upgrade prices and there might be "milestones" where their primary skill increases duration or radius.)
Hopefully, we could also get visiel on board because his method of presentation is the most elegant imo and I tinkered and failed again with the create table feature of this forum yesterday.
Here's a first draft; suggestions for improvement/ discussion on which data is relevant are welcome  |
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Post by blueberry on Oct 26, 2022 6:41:59 GMT
I just finished all the trails. So, when is the next update? Haha now all you can do is save up on medals again since (also @ sh88,) there will probably come more trials for the other princesses. If you're up for it there might be one more thing to explore - the stats, skills and upgrade costs of princesses and their summoning items.
Of course only with saving and then loading from the cloud as this investment might not be worth it. (So far I can say they have different upgrade prices and there might be "milestones" where their primary skill increases duration or radius.)
Hopefully, we could also get visiel on board because his method of presentation is the most elegant imo and I tinkered and failed again with the create table feature of this forum yesterday.
Here's a first draft; suggestions for improvement/ discussion on which data is relevant are welcome Sure. I will use the cloud save to upgrade the princesses as soon as I have 5000 medals (the total cost to upgrade a princess). Anyway, I think that easytech will surely add more princess trails in the future. And they will make El Cid and Batu Khan mandatory in every mission Probably the next update will be in january |
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Post by visiel on Oct 27, 2022 3:58:25 GMT
Thanks bro. I can make one with the data you provide, but for full details, Jonblend is the expert here.
I make the chart as well, but not as details as him.
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Post by dain on Oct 27, 2022 15:00:53 GMT
Yesterday I was able to pass Patras 4 for 1 star, and as Patras 5 and 6 are much easier, I finish them and got Anna's Crown.
It seems Anna will be much more useful - she rises Critical Hit Chance of surrounding friendly troops - for now I have level 4, which gives +24 % for 2 turns and 1 hex area.
As previous levels were 15, 18, and 21 %, it seems level 10 could be 42 %, hopefully for 3 turns and 2 hex area.
As the best generals have around 25 % critical chance (Bismarck with Thunder and Discovery Badge has 40 %), Anna could give 60+ % critical hit chance - which could definitely have greater impact.
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Post by visiel on Oct 27, 2022 16:03:13 GMT
blueberry , As you have access to all princesses, can you check if which commander can boost each princess so we can put type on them.
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Post by jonblend on Oct 27, 2022 16:23:44 GMT
Thanks blueberry, I still need around 5k medals for 3 stars on Patras4 since 14 turns was the best I could manage without genghis weapon and napoleonic code. So, ~2 more weeks for skill upgrades and saving up are needed. Btw, misses even occur when Alex with 1120 hit tries to hit Hel in the northeast. Speaking of Napoleonic Code (@ dain), 65% can be achieved if the general has 15% with friendship, Robin's armor (10%), infantry badge (10%), thunder (20%) and NC (10%). As for princess data, my approach wold be to collect all the information and then rearrange it in terms of relevance. If it were easy to max them, then there would be no need to overthink this but ~5000 medals per princess is something that takes some weeks to grind. And with princesses resembling the summoned monsters from GCR (maria=goblin? ), it might be wise to skip weaker ones or only minimally invest to make them useful until the stronger princesses are released. I think even stats might be interesting or at least the movement stat because at lv4, they are not only weak but also slow and I have seen 22 movement on one of the provided screenshots. Do we know which unit class they belong to (if any at all)? They don't seem to profit from archer aura or the effect is too small if they only hit for 100 dmg.. |
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Post by blueberry on Oct 27, 2022 19:35:04 GMT
blueberry , As you have access to all princesses, can you check if which commander can boost each princess so we can put type on them. It seems like they don't belong to any type of troops. No commander aura has effect on them. And they would definitely need a buff... In my opinion the only princesses worth upgrading are Maria and Anna. Maybe Sophia. But it would take a lot of medals and crown coins. The annoying thing is that they need a lvl 10 jewel to have their skills maxed. At lvl 9 their skills are just lvl 6. |
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Post by blueberry on Oct 27, 2022 19:43:33 GMT
And with princesses resembling the summoned monsters from GCR (maria=goblin? )[...] They are witches. The unit's name is "sorceress", to be precise. Maria and Elizabeth are fairies. |
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Post by jonblend on Oct 27, 2022 20:00:52 GMT
blueberry , As you have access to all princesses, can you check if which commander can boost each princess so we can put type on them. It seems like they don't belong to any type of troops. No commander aura has effect on them. And they would definitely need a buff... In my opinion the only princesses worth upgrading are Maria and Anna. Maybe Sophia. But it would take a lot of medals and crown coins. The annoying thing is that they need a lvl 10 jewel to have their skills maxed. At lvl 9 their skills are just lvl 6. Hm this changes things a lot; then a screenshot like the one you posted for Maria at lv10 with the active skill highlighted contains all we are interested in. This and maybe the cumulative cost in medals and crown coins to reach lv10. |
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Post by blueberry on Oct 27, 2022 21:58:58 GMT
I repeated Patras 4 and took screenshots for every turn. The setup of the generals is the same I posted here. Belisarius was just a punching ball for Hela, he can be kept at lvl 5. I didn't use Caesar's Healing Master, so it's possible to save medals and avoid upgrading it. I used Cleopatra to clear all those walls, so she could gain rage amd activate both Aegis (necessary to keep her alive) and the explosive expert skill (which is useful because it weakens nearby troops making it easier for cleopatra to kill them and gain more rage). On turn 6, I didn't move Leonidas close to the artillery general, because, if I did, he would have moved one tile to the south and Alexander and Caesar wouldn't have been able to attack him and build rage on turn 8 (on turn 7 he can attack Caesar, so he doesn't feel the need to move). Alexander used Gungnir twice. Caesar used thunder once (on the snake). Suleiman used Mystletainn once (in the south). I used Cleopatra's explosive master on the fort. Another thing: on turn 3 and 4, it's better to move Cleopatra first, so as to get visibility for the positioning of the other generals, or else they would stumble into enemy units in the fog of war. This time everything went even better than before (only bad thing was Suleiman missing a hit on the southern Hela). 12 turns. |
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Post by jonblend on Oct 28, 2022 15:21:09 GMT
Looks like Christmas came early thank you blueberry , this was really helpful, I didn't know we could occupy the market building (in my previous attempts, the archer gen was always there). 13 turns with the last hit.
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Post by blueberry on Oct 28, 2022 17:31:19 GMT
jonblend, you must have been very quick in destroying the southern fort and Hela. Did you send there more generals than I did?
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Post by blueberry on Oct 28, 2022 18:16:53 GMT
PRINCESSES' ITEMS
It seems like the upgrade costs of their items are slightly different:
Sophia, Anna
1 -> 2 150 medals, 40 crown coins
2 -> 3 240 and 65
3 -> 4 360 and 80
4 -> 5 495 and 95
5 -> 6 660 and 110
6 -> 7 770 and 130
7 -> 8 825 and 150
8 -> 9 880 and 170
9 -> 10 935 and 190
Elizabeth, Maria
1 -> 2 150 medals, 30 crown coins
2 -> 3 240 and 45
3 -> 4 360 and 60
4 -> 5 450 and 80
5 -> 6 600 and 100
6 -> 7 700 and 120
7 -> 8 750 and 140
8 -> 9 800 and 160
9 -> 10 850 and 180
The item lvl influences the unit level like this:
1 -> lvl 10
2 -> lvl 20
3 -> lvl 30
4 -> lvl 40
5 -> lvl 45
6 -> lvl 50
7 -> lvl 55
8 -> lvl 60
9 -> lvl 65
10 -> lvl 70
As regards their skills, the second skills are just like the ones you can find on some generals (e.g. Maria can repair walls just like Moctezuma).
The first skill seems to have only 7 levels until it's maxed.
The two perks are simply no counterattack and rage gained per turn (and they are always the same regardless of the level), but they gain a different amount:
Sophia gains 15 rage per turn
Anna 17
Maria and Elizabeth 20
Since they can't gain rage through combat, it's quite slow.
Now I'll spend the rest of the evening uploading screenshots...
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Post by blueberry on Oct 28, 2022 18:37:33 GMT
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now all you can do is save up on medals again since (also @ 
