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Post by ghosthammer on Nov 22, 2022 0:13:35 GMT
ive ran this mission 5 times now. i can get to 5 cities then i get destroyed. hoping somone has a guide or advice.. thank you
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Post by nikomachos on Nov 22, 2022 0:53:34 GMT
i took the first city in front of you. then sent spawned mercenary gen timur to the south west taking cities along the side of the map. i sent alfred and el cid and 2 support to reims. the trigger was either taking 5 cities or taking reims bc suddenly the GOD general in paris decided "enough is enough" and hunted down edwards son whom we should protect. thankfully we can put him into the safe allied area. the spam was enormous after that in the southeast but paris at least was empty so i sent the team that took reims to paris and invested lots of drum taking the last cities with timur in the south. i eveb had to retake one bc i lost it to the spam so this was more of a story than advice.  here the advice: if you know what the trigger is for paris gen to leave and spam to multiply by a million... plan accordingly. was it Number of cities or is it taking reims idk. please let us know. |
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Post by lafluth on Nov 23, 2022 10:40:40 GMT
It is not Reims because I took early and the super gen stayed in Paris.
It might indeed be 5 cities. I have not completed it yet but something happened late in my last try, probably what you described (some event happened but I did not see any change, must have been the super gen leaving Paris which I did not notice - I thought the blue ally south west would help but no, they stayed in their city). Also not sure what the south east city highlighted in red does, not much happened when I took it.
I will try what you suggest, that sounds like a good plan. Timur west and the rest east/south around paris.
I think for this one tents are useless, rather focus on increased damage / city assault tech and spam war drums. Need to spam war drums any way, even with tents. This is definitely an aggressive speed run and playing defensive will not work.
update: it is definitely when you reach 5 cities taken that the enemy super gen moves away from paris. Taking paris is obviously the crucial move mid to late game as it generates 200 silver in one go. Re. strategy indeed half of forces east and half of forces west, armed with offensive / city attack tech, taking all cities possible going around paris, little to no new recruitment if possible (no need to defend)… and loads of war drums. Then paris when the enemy gen moves away. Sending our protected general south west towards bordeaux (as suggested by the game dialogue), ie to la rochelle with the blue allies, is easy to keep him safe and also triggers a nice high morale for everyone.
It is kind of a fun mission, but like many missions in this game, winning by spamming war drums does not really feel like a win. More like cheating with an infinite life hack. Even with IAP resources I am not sure this would be doable without war drums. Curious to hear, as an anecdote, if anyone did it without war drums.
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Post by lafluth on Nov 23, 2022 11:38:00 GMT
Also, re. enemy unit spam once we reach 5 cities, indeed it is noticeable but it did not really bother me.
I put narses in a city with 2 new units and cnut in another one, to defend a bit, it attracted some of the enemy, which probably helped deflect assaults on my other gens attacking the remaining cities, incl. paris. Not sure it is necessary though as it consumes silvers needed to finish the mission.
2 strong gens for paris, timur + nur din for another one, and alfred + el cid for a third one, all did the job in 2-3 turns to get passed 1000 silver. They just chewed through enemy unit spam given high moral and full health from war drums. I actually got to 1100 as paris gave 200 in the end, so I probably could have taken one less city and focus more forces on the others to go quicker. Finished in 14 turns, perhaps could have done 13.
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Post by nikomachos on Nov 23, 2022 18:01:39 GMT
Also, re. enemy unit spam once we reach 5 cities, indeed it is noticeable but it did not really bother me. I put narses in a city with 2 new units and cnut in another one, to defend a bit, it attracted some of the enemy, which probably helped deflect assaults on my other gens attacking the remaining cities, incl. paris. Not sure it is necessary though as it consumes silvers needed to finish the mission. 2 strong gens for paris, timur + nur din for another one, and alfred + el cid for a third one, all did the job in 2-3 turns to get passed 1000 silver. They just chewed through enemy unit spam given high moral and full health from war drums. I actually got to 1100 as paris gave 200 in the end, so I probably could have taken one less city and focus more forces on the others to go quicker. Finished in 14 turns, perhaps could have done 13. lol this must be one of the missions that got nerfed to easier in yesterdays patch bc iirc than you did have to conquer 7 of 9 red cities and all were red... tthats why we had to keep attacking and the spam was deadly |
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Post by Boss Tweed on Nov 26, 2022 22:31:26 GMT
Also this is an accumulate supplies mission but your income is in the double digits.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Mar 11, 2023 16:21:28 GMT
First clear on Normal without war drums: Getting John of Gaunt to La Rochelle leads to a morale boost for all allies. However, he is not safe there. Finish the campaign ASAP. Also, Betrand apparently moves towards Rouen or just SW of Paris. He has a lot of secret buffs so ignore him. He can easily take down Timur from Paris in a 1v1 duel. Other notes:
Apparently, French troops defeating our men gives them resources.
Also, these cheating French will recover their men then attack. Not sure if they will recover losses after they attack twice.
Additionally, there will be a small spam of troops after turn 10, either because these were not the original garrisons and they will move freely, or it is scripted.
- Holding cities at most increases your taxes by a small bit, and these are still less than what Calais and its castle should provide! ET really wants to make sure we "plunder" all those French cities and defeat their starting garrisons.
- 5 cities is indeed the trigger.
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Post by Boss Tweed on Mar 13, 2023 19:25:35 GMT
Best strategy for this mission: just get a plunder gen like attila, alaric or guiscard and some calmness gens like caesar, matilda, philip the good or theodora. Then spam the living daylights out of plunder.
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Post by godfrey on Mar 21, 2023 23:01:33 GMT
Capture the fourth city and the tough Paris garrison will be lured out. Avoid fighting with them; your goal is Paris - as it is the key city to capture for gaining the necessary resources
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