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Post by John Marston on Apr 11, 2023 3:00:11 GMT
I've been thinking about which type of general we should to buy first. I will obviously say a tank general should be bought first because having a tank guy means you can use your armored vehicles a bit more fearlessly. Without him, there will always be the danger of an ambush.
Using tank generals means you can absorb more damage and you always have the possibility to advance quickly, since you know that your guy can *mostly* wriggle out of any ambushes and since he is a tank, he moves pretty fast.
I think maybe Infantry too might not be a bad choice because he is cheap and under the right conditions and support, can be deadly. His weakness though is his low damage base and low health.
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Apr 11, 2023 5:42:28 GMT
Tanks are king, no doubt, but you also have to consider the free general types. The way to play is to look at what you have and ask "what do I need right now?", and if the answer is "nothing" don't rush to buy someone just because you can.
Axis starts with Messe and Bock, both armor, both meh, but it's enough early. Your first need is a good arty, which means Leeb (some misguided souls say Badoglio, but don't listen to them). You can get Guderian next.
Allied side starts with Leclerc (just OK armor), and in the next chapter you get Timoshenko (decent armor) and Chuikov (seriously good arty). Those guys will carry you for a while, you don't need any more arty allied side, you'll need an HT general eventually, but not soon, so just get to the Pacific and get MacArthur.
You don't need a navy general before 1945. You don't really need one then, but it will make your life easier and you'll have the medals if you spend sensibly. You don't need an air force general at all.
I bought Rundstedt initially, but I've come to prefer Yamashita. Eventually you'll want both as well as MacArthur, and Rundstedt is good enough, so he isn't a wrong choice.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 16, 2023 13:20:18 GMT
Ya know, with the new source of medals coming in, I would say the best choice would be Leeb. You really get everything apart from an axis Arty and allied Infantry taken care of by Eastern 41, and even for the Allied infantry you want to hold out until MacArthur. Badoglio just isn't worth saving the 150 medals, even though I do still think he was before, and his advantages over Leeb are negligible against Leeb's power. I'm still sticking with Badoglio just because my playstyle is with him, but Leeb is basically an objectively better choice at this point. Model can cover for infantry until Pacific 42, and Rommel needs to be bought before NA41, but really the most viable strategy is already set: Leeb, Rundstedt/Yamashita, MacArthur, Rommel.
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Post by John Marston on Apr 16, 2023 13:28:12 GMT
Ya know, with the new source of medals coming in, I would say the best choice would be Leeb. You really get everything apart from an axis Arty and allied Infantry taken care of by Eastern 41, and even for the Allied infantry you want to hold out until MacArthur. Badoglio just isn't worth saving the 150 medals, even though I do still think he was before, and his advantages over Leeb are negligible against Leeb's power. I'm still sticking with Badoglio just because my playstyle is with him, but Leeb is basically an objectively better choice at this point. Model can cover for infantry until Pacific 42, and Rommel needs to be bought before NA41, but really the most viable strategy is already set: Leeb, Rundstedt/Yamashita, MacArthur, Rommel. What do you think about Kuribayashi? Sometimes I regret buying him due to his utter lack of movement.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 17, 2023 2:20:42 GMT
Ya know, with the new source of medals coming in, I would say the best choice would be Leeb. You really get everything apart from an axis Arty and allied Infantry taken care of by Eastern 41, and even for the Allied infantry you want to hold out until MacArthur. Badoglio just isn't worth saving the 150 medals, even though I do still think he was before, and his advantages over Leeb are negligible against Leeb's power. I'm still sticking with Badoglio just because my playstyle is with him, but Leeb is basically an objectively better choice at this point. Model can cover for infantry until Pacific 42, and Rommel needs to be bought before NA41, but really the most viable strategy is already set: Leeb, Rundstedt/Yamashita, MacArthur, Rommel. What do you think about Kuribayashi? Sometimes I regret buying him due to his utter lack of movement. His major problem is survivability. Much like his ill-fated stand at Iwo Jima, he is destined to die. Zero survivability skills, only 3 stars, and no movement to allow him to land in a city easily. He is stuck either needing promoted movement on his SFs, IMO a waste of a promotion for infantry, or he is glued to a rear city and as such can't really partake in much fighting before he needs to recuperate. If he wasn't unusable in practice, I think he would be quite good.
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Post by Josip Broz Tito on Apr 17, 2023 9:51:28 GMT
Ya know, with the new source of medals coming in, I would say the best choice would be Leeb. You really get everything apart from an axis Arty and allied Infantry taken care of by Eastern 41, and even for the Allied infantry you want to hold out until MacArthur. Badoglio just isn't worth saving the 150 medals, even though I do still think he was before, and his advantages over Leeb are negligible against Leeb's power. I'm still sticking with Badoglio just because my playstyle is with him, but Leeb is basically an objectively better choice at this point. Model can cover for infantry until Pacific 42, and Rommel needs to be bought before NA41, but really the most viable strategy is already set: Leeb, Rundstedt/Yamashita, MacArthur, Rommel. Advisor Feedback: This is an abruptly strident way to abandon your base.
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Post by HangryBird on Apr 17, 2023 20:32:35 GMT
Ya know, with the new source of medals coming in, I would say the best choice would be Leeb. You really get everything apart from an axis Arty and allied Infantry taken care of by Eastern 41, and even for the Allied infantry you want to hold out until MacArthur. Badoglio just isn't worth saving the 150 medals, even though I do still think he was before, and his advantages over Leeb are negligible against Leeb's power. I'm still sticking with Badoglio just because my playstyle is with him, but Leeb is basically an objectively better choice at this point. Model can cover for infantry until Pacific 42, and Rommel needs to be bought before NA41, but really the most viable strategy is already set: Leeb, Rundstedt/Yamashita, MacArthur, Rommel. Advisor Feedback: This is an abruptly strident way to abandon your base. Is that a New Campaign Trail reference???!!! Also, Gerdy turning on Badoglio and Kuribayashi is a surprise.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 17, 2023 22:14:53 GMT
Ya know, with the new source of medals coming in, I would say the best choice would be Leeb. You really get everything apart from an axis Arty and allied Infantry taken care of by Eastern 41, and even for the Allied infantry you want to hold out until MacArthur. Badoglio just isn't worth saving the 150 medals, even though I do still think he was before, and his advantages over Leeb are negligible against Leeb's power. I'm still sticking with Badoglio just because my playstyle is with him, but Leeb is basically an objectively better choice at this point. Model can cover for infantry until Pacific 42, and Rommel needs to be bought before NA41, but really the most viable strategy is already set: Leeb, Rundstedt/Yamashita, MacArthur, Rommel. Advisor Feedback: This is an abruptly strident way to abandon your base. I don't think I've abandoned any of my core principles. I still believe in infantry supremacy, a slow march to victory, Rommel as the only necessary Axis tanker, and I even said that I still personally prefer Badoglio. I just don't know if I can endorse him over Leeb at this point.
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Post by Josip Broz Tito on Apr 17, 2023 23:45:20 GMT
Advisor Feedback: This is an abruptly strident way to abandon your base. Is that a New Campaign Trail reference???!!! Also, Gerdy turning on Badoglio and Kuribayashi is a surprise. 1. Yes 2. He’s always hated Kuribayashi. No surprise there.
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Post by HangryBird on Apr 18, 2023 2:26:27 GMT
It may be that I've been away from the forum for a long time, but I definitely remember Gerdy saying that Badoglio was better than Leeb in terms of cost-effective performance. I also remember Gerdy saying that Kuribayashi is the best 3-star axis infantry gen.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 18, 2023 12:48:58 GMT
It may be that I've been away from the forum for a long time, but I definitely remember Gerdy saying that Badoglio was better than Leeb in terms of cost-effective performance. I also remember Gerdy saying that Kuribayashi is the best 3-star axis infantry gen. I do definitely believe that Badoglio is hands-down better when it comes to const effectiveness. I also think that, after updates, it doesn't really matter anymore since medal grinding is so much easier. Same with Vatutin vs. Montgomery. I used to think that Vatutin was better for his price and Monty was better overall, but now it seems that Montgomery is the best choice in general. As for Kuribayashi, I believe I held that position for a bit, but certainly not for an extended period of time.
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Post by vonmanstein77 on Apr 18, 2023 12:49:56 GMT
It may be that I've been away from the forum for a long time, but I definitely remember Gerdy saying that Badoglio was better than Leeb in terms of cost-effective performance. I also remember Gerdy saying that Kuribayashi is the best 3-star axis infantry gen. I do definitely believe that Badoglio is hands-down better when it comes to const effectiveness. I also think that, after updates, it doesn't really matter anymore since medal grinding is so much easier. Same with Vatutin vs. Montgomery. I used to think that Vatutin was better for his price and Monty was better overall, but now it seems that Montgomery is the best choice in general. As for Kuribayashi, I believe I held that position for a bit, but certainly not for an extended period of time. I thought you were still clinging to Ushijima = God
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 18, 2023 12:52:58 GMT
I do definitely believe that Badoglio is hands-down better when it comes to const effectiveness. I also think that, after updates, it doesn't really matter anymore since medal grinding is so much easier. Same with Vatutin vs. Montgomery. I used to think that Vatutin was better for his price and Monty was better overall, but now it seems that Montgomery is the best choice in general. As for Kuribayashi, I believe I held that position for a bit, but certainly not for an extended period of time. I thought you were still clinging to Ushijima = God Certainly not god, but easily better than Kuribayashi and heavily underrated. Rundstedt is still better, but Ushijima takes over once Rundstedt is on an HT.
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Post by vonmanstein77 on Apr 18, 2023 12:56:26 GMT
I thought you were still clinging to Ushijima = God Certainly not god, but easily better than Kuribayashi and heavily underrated. Rundstedt is still better, but Ushijima takes over once Rundstedt is on an HT. You see, you wouldn't have to put Rundstedt on a tank if you would just buy GUDERIAN LIKE A NORMAL PERSON!!!!!!
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 18, 2023 12:57:22 GMT
Certainly not god, but easily better than Kuribayashi and heavily underrated. Rundstedt is still better, but Ushijima takes over once Rundstedt is on an HT. You see, you wouldn't have to put Rundstedt on a tank if you would just buy GUDERIAN LIKE A NORMAL PERSON!!!!!! I still would! Rundstedt on an HT is literally broken! HE HAS TRANSCENDED MORTALITY!
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