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Post by zivojinmisic on May 29, 2023 22:27:42 GMT
So I recently started the game and this guy slaps,but I'm not sure how to build him(or other generals)(what put his points in, which items to equip). Also, which other gens should I get ,and some general building advice(who and what to invest in)? I've been thinking Roland would be great,but I'm not sure, I'm about to finish the Byzantine campaign and I want to set up for late game.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by zivojinmisic on May 29, 2023 22:30:27 GMT
So I recently started the game and this guy slaps,but I'm not sure how to build him(or other generals)(what put his points in, which items to equip). Also, which other gens should I get ,and some general building advice(who and what to invest in)? I've been thinking Roland would be great,but I'm not sure, I'm about to finish the Byzantine campaign and I want to set up for late game. Thanks in advance! Also, I've been thinking to make Belisarius into an inf god,and get Roland for cav(I have around 3800 medals) |
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Post by stoic on May 30, 2023 3:42:55 GMT
So I recently started the game and this guy slaps,but I'm not sure how to build him(or other generals)(what put his points in, which items to equip). Also, which other gens should I get ,and some general building advice(who and what to invest in)? I've been thinking Roland would be great,but I'm not sure, I'm about to finish the Byzantine campaign and I want to set up for late game. Thanks in advance! Also, I've been thinking to make Belisarius into an inf god,and get Roland for cav(I have around 3800 medals) You are actually in a very good position, because it is possible to avoid mistakes we made early in the game. First of all, don't forget that a general with his personal weapon and a general without it usually are as different as heaven and earth (there are few exceptions but they confirm the rule). So, if you are a f2p player it is a waste to invest heavily in Belisarius, because you won't ever get his weapon. Roland has his personal weapon too and it is f2p. But he doesn't have any special chapter and all in all is just above average. So, the rule of thumb in EW7 is to buy generals with personal weapons AND special chapters. It is especially true when you just start the game. So, I would advise you to set up these priorities, if you are a f2p player: Infantry: Cnut, Basil, Robert the Bruce Cavalry: Alfred, Nevsky, John Tzimiskes, Alexios, Li Jing Archers: El Cid, Timur, Subutai All these generals have personal weapons, have good and decent skills AND you'll be able to play their special chapters on normal and hard. Only Subutai and Li Jing don't have special chapters but sooner or later you will unlock their weapons and they are very good generals. Besides, their special units are exceptionally good too. There are other generals worth buying: 1. Baldwin. His personal weapon is p2w, but he has a special chapter and a very useful active skill. It is very helpful when you try to protect important targets in campaigns. 2. Justinian. He is one of the best consuls in the game even if his weapon is p2w. Very useful in conquests. But, probably, you can replace him with a log-in reward - Sophia. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 30, 2023 4:20:43 GMT
Another point is cost: you'll be short on resources so a gen with a F2P unique equipment will get more benefits from upgrading the equipment than a gen without. For example, the active skill lvl, some passive skills and special troop atk bonus if the gen is used as a Castle gen.
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Post by zivojinmisic on May 30, 2023 18:38:25 GMT
Also, I've been thinking to make Belisarius into an inf god,and get Roland for cav(I have around 3800 medals) You are actually in a very good position, because it is possible to avoid mistakes we made early in the game. First of all, don't forget that a general with his personal weapon and a general without it usually are as different as heaven and earth (there are few exceptions but they confirm the rule). So, if you are a f2p player it is a waste to invest heavily in Belisarius, because you won't ever get his weapon. Roland has his personal weapon too and it is f2p. But he doesn't have any special chapter and all in all is just above average. So, the rule of thumb in EW7 is to buy generals with personal weapons AND special chapters. It is especially true when you just start the game. So, I would advise you to set up these priorities, if you are a f2p player: Infantry: Cnut, Basil, Robert the Bruce Cavalry: Alfred, Nevsky, John Tzimiskes, Alexios, Li Jing Archers: El Cid, Timur, Subutai All these generals have personal weapons, have good and decent skills AND you'll be able to play their special chapters on normal and hard. Only Subutai and Li Jing don't have special chapters but sooner or later you will unlock their weapons and they are very good generals. Besides, their special units are exceptionally good too. There are other generals worth buying: 1. Baldwin. His personal weapon is p2w, but he has a special chapter and a very useful active skill. It is very helpful when you try to protect important targets in campaigns. 2. Justinian. He is one of the best consuls in the game even if his weapon is p2w. Very useful in conquests. But, probably, you can replace him with a log-in reward - Sophia. Who would you recommendto buy first? Also where can I get their unique items? Im playing establishment of the kingdom now. |
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Post by conkueror on May 30, 2023 20:40:38 GMT
You can see where to get generals unique weapon by clicking its icon on the top left corner of the generals info page.
I can't remember when all those gens will be unlocked, especially since some of them weren't even in the game when I was in the earlier campaigns, but just go for them if you have spare medals or at least when you got their weapon. Another very good f2p gen with f2p weapon is Gao Xianzhi, tho if I remember correctly, his weapon unlocks when you get certain amount of victories in territory mode (gonna take a while if you are new to the game).
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Post by stoic on May 31, 2023 4:23:47 GMT
You are actually in a very good position, because it is possible to avoid mistakes we made early in the game. First of all, don't forget that a general with his personal weapon and a general without it usually are as different as heaven and earth (there are few exceptions but they confirm the rule). So, if you are a f2p player it is a waste to invest heavily in Belisarius, because you won't ever get his weapon. Roland has his personal weapon too and it is f2p. But he doesn't have any special chapter and all in all is just above average. So, the rule of thumb in EW7 is to buy generals with personal weapons AND special chapters. It is especially true when you just start the game. So, I would advise you to set up these priorities, if you are a f2p player: Infantry: Cnut, Basil, Robert the Bruce Cavalry: Alfred, Nevsky, John Tzimiskes, Alexios, Li Jing Archers: El Cid, Timur, Subutai All these generals have personal weapons, have good and decent skills AND you'll be able to play their special chapters on normal and hard. Only Subutai and Li Jing don't have special chapters but sooner or later you will unlock their weapons and they are very good generals. Besides, their special units are exceptionally good too. There are other generals worth buying: 1. Baldwin. His personal weapon is p2w, but he has a special chapter and a very useful active skill. It is very helpful when you try to protect important targets in campaigns. 2. Justinian. He is one of the best consuls in the game even if his weapon is p2w. Very useful in conquests. But, probably, you can replace him with a log-in reward - Sophia. Who would you recommendto buy first? Also where can I get their unique items? Im playing establishment of the kingdom now. Yeah, as mentioned above, there is an information about special items of generals (if there are any) in the top left corner of their portraits. If I remember correctly Cnut the Great is one of the best generals you can get relatively early in the game. And Alfred the Great is also available at the start of the game or close to it. Just for a moment concentrate your efforts on Varangian guards for Cnut (Vikings are also not a bad unit, though quite fragile). The best legion composition for Cnut is: two Varangians and one Viking unit. At least, before you are able to experiment with different units and their legion effects. No worries though, it isn't the biggest headache, because you literally need months of playing even to bother with it  Alfred has a very reliable special unit (and what is more important - an easy to upgrade unit) Noble cavalry. With Cnut and Alfred you'll be able to unlock your first top tier archer - El Cid. |
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Post by zivojinmisic on Jun 1, 2023 9:02:17 GMT
Who would you recommendto buy first? Also where can I get their unique items? Im playing establishment of the kingdom now. Yeah, as mentioned above, there is an information about special items of generals (if there are any) in the top left corner of their portraits. If I remember correctly Cnut the Great is one of the best generals you can get relatively early in the game. And Alfred the Great is also available at the start of the game or close to it. Just for a moment concentrate your efforts on Varangian guards for Cnut (Vikings are also not a bad unit, though quite fragile). The best legion composition for Cnut is: two Varangians and one Viking unit. At least, before you are able to experiment with different units and their legion effects. No worries though, it isn't the biggest headache, because you literally need months of playing even to bother with it Alfred has a very reliable special unit (and what is more important - an easy to upgrade unit) Noble cavalry. With Cnut and Alfred you'll be able to unlock your first top tier archer - El Cid. Well, I just got Alfred,but his skillset seems a bit wierd- melee cav+polearm mastery doesn't seem to make sense(unless melee cav leader also works on charging cav) I'll get cnut when I reach Normandy and Cid when I get to komenos dynasty. Also, getting the items for those gens is pretty easy,they really are f2p friendly. Thanks a lot for the tips, you probably saved my run! |
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Post by stoic on Jun 1, 2023 10:00:56 GMT
Yeah, as mentioned above, there is an information about special items of generals (if there are any) in the top left corner of their portraits. If I remember correctly Cnut the Great is one of the best generals you can get relatively early in the game. And Alfred the Great is also available at the start of the game or close to it. Just for a moment concentrate your efforts on Varangian guards for Cnut (Vikings are also not a bad unit, though quite fragile). The best legion composition for Cnut is: two Varangians and one Viking unit. At least, before you are able to experiment with different units and their legion effects. No worries though, it isn't the biggest headache, because you literally need months of playing even to bother with it Alfred has a very reliable special unit (and what is more important - an easy to upgrade unit) Noble cavalry. With Cnut and Alfred you'll be able to unlock your first top tier archer - El Cid. Well, I just got Alfred,but his skillset seems a bit wierd- melee cav+polearm mastery doesn't seem to make sense(unless melee cav leader also works on charging cav) I'll get cnut when I reach Normandy and Cid when I get to komenos dynasty. Also, getting the items for those gens is pretty easy,they really are f2p friendly. Thanks a lot for the tips, you probably saved my run! For sure, Alfred's skills are not that great, but he is a very reliable cavalry general with a very useful (especially in campaigns) active skill. You will besiege many cities with thick walls in your military career Besides, he has another very useful skill, namely Rapid March. It means that the speed of your legion will be the one of your fastest unit. For example, if Alfred's has Noble Cavalry (mobility 10), Teutonic Knights (mobility 11) and War Elephants (Mobility 8) in his legion, - the mobility of your whole legion will be 11. Alfred is very good for leading Melee/Charge cavalry legions getting the best of both worlds. You can add additional skills to any general through gems too. In case of Alfred - Charging cavalry expert, for example (two purple gems and one green gem) |
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Post by zivojinmisic on Jun 1, 2023 10:22:21 GMT
Well, I just got Alfred,but his skillset seems a bit wierd- melee cav+polearm mastery doesn't seem to make sense(unless melee cav leader also works on charging cav) I'll get cnut when I reach Normandy and Cid when I get to komenos dynasty. Also, getting the items for those gens is pretty easy,they really are f2p friendly. Thanks a lot for the tips, you probably saved my run! For sure, Alfred's skills are not that great, but he is a very reliable cavalry general with a very useful (especially in campaigns) active skill. You will besiege many cities with thick walls in your military career Besides, he has another very useful skill, namely Rapid March. It means that the speed of your legion will be the one of your fastest unit. For example, if Alfred's has Noble Cavalry (mobility 10), Teutonic Knights (mobility 11) and War Elephants (Mobility 8) in his legion, - the mobility of your whole legion will be 11. Alfred is very good for leading Melee/Charge cavalry legions getting the best of both worlds. You can add additional skills to any general through gems too. In case of Alfred - Charging cavalry expert, for example (two purple gems and one green gem) Nice,he really pays off,I just gotta ask,where should I put my generals' points,for instance, should I try to max out Alfred's cavalry stats or put something in leadership or admin(is it worth putting morale and admin on any gen,they don't seem that important?),this is a problem I've been having for a while now with all generals I upgraded. |
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Post by stoic on Jun 1, 2023 10:48:35 GMT
For sure, Alfred's skills are not that great, but he is a very reliable cavalry general with a very useful (especially in campaigns) active skill. You will besiege many cities with thick walls in your military career Besides, he has another very useful skill, namely Rapid March. It means that the speed of your legion will be the one of your fastest unit. For example, if Alfred's has Noble Cavalry (mobility 10), Teutonic Knights (mobility 11) and War Elephants (Mobility 8) in his legion, - the mobility of your whole legion will be 11. Alfred is very good for leading Melee/Charge cavalry legions getting the best of both worlds. You can add additional skills to any general through gems too. In case of Alfred - Charging cavalry expert, for example (two purple gems and one green gem) Nice,he really pays off,I just gotta ask,where should I put my generals' points,for instance, should I try to max out Alfred's cavalry stats or put something in leadership or admin(is it worth putting morale and admin on any gen,they don't seem that important?),this is a problem I've been having for a while now with all generals I upgraded. A general rule is that you don't create hybrids out of your general. If someone is a battlefield general he should have as high stats in this dimension as possible. If we are speaking about administrators, they should have as many administration points as possible. Probably there are some exceptions in the endgame, but, all in all, the world of EW7 is ruled by narrow specialists. |
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Post by stoic on Jun 1, 2023 15:23:30 GMT
zivojinmisicBtw, a couple of words about exceptions I have mentioned above. There are several generals in the game without personal weapon and special chapter and yet are extremely useful in certain circumstances. I would highly recommend you to play Fall of Byzantium conquest as Ottomans on normal difficulty as soon as you can do it. As a reward you'll get a free general, - Murad II. At first glance he is an unremarkable general and many players will easily leave him to guard the vault. But his active skill is actually one of the best in the game. I am sure he will help you on many occasion. Another example is Matilda of Boulogne. Another unremarkable general, at first sight. But, in fact, her active skill is the best supportive skill in the game. There are several generals with this skill, but only Matilda among f2p generals has it on 2 turns cooldown (when equipped with an item bought from the shop). It offers many tactical possibilities. I also have to mention a bond between Justinian and his wife Theodora. Try to deploy both of them in conquests, because their bond enables us to equip our generals with better equipment right from the start and to change it when needed.  
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Post by Husein Gradascevic on Jun 6, 2023 1:27:17 GMT
I am probably joining this discussion late, but there is one more general that is really good, and that is Narses. In my case, he became my 3rd archer general, after Timur and El Cid, and he is doing his job pretty well. So when you get enough medals and other resources to spend, you should definetly go for him too. And also, Have a nice medieval career, Knight!
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