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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jul 14, 2023 15:33:49 GMT
 The war of liberation is nearing its end. Now 50,000 troops attempt to finish enemy pockets in Laos and Cambodia. 6sAJXPmF200,000 troops attack southern Vietnam (objectives in yellow). 3 = 1 region captured, 4 = 2, 5 = 4, and 6= 6. ·· |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 15:59:23 GMT
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov Both India and Luxembourg have offered to take refugees from you. For what? To weaken you by decreasing your population? To increase their influence on you by using this later? If they really wanted to help you, they would send you military support, like WE did. In any case, I don't think I need to say it loud that we will send more humanitarian aid if you want it. Only for Eugene V. Debs Yep, they're doing more harm than good, but rn there's not really much I can do about it. Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov Which is why I'm here  If you want, we're more than glad to welcome the refugees till the war ends, which seems pretty near anyway. |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Jul 14, 2023 20:29:44 GMT
Only for Eugene V. Debs , Greetings. Mongolia is only too happy to accept your generosity and friendship (have you seen our other neighbors??) If we were to join the WTO, what would be our responsibilities and privileges? We will have to give further consideration to this question. Only for Theron of Acragas You're already socialist, so if you join the WTO, the only thing you should do is support me and my allies (Viet Minh) in case of a war, like in any other military and diplomatic alliance. In exchange, we'll help you protect yourself against the other major Asian powers. India and Pakistan seem to be forming an alliance, so it's only natural that the socialist powers unite. China is neutral for now, so the only one who can actively help you is us. We're the biggest army of the world, and a superpower, so this alliance would be highly beneficial for you. The only thing I ask for is equal support and perhaps military help. And if you wish to focus on your internal matters (ooc: if you're busy irl  ), you can still join, just generally supporting me is enough. If you wanted, you could send an army for me to use while you're away. Only for Eugene V. Debs, Sounds like a good deal. The problem is that I have another superpower to my south, which is, as you said, currently unaligned. While I have no friendly feelings towards China (in fact, they occupy significant Mongolian territories that I'd be happy to reclaim), it's obviously in my interests to maintain friendly relations with them, and I don't yet know how they'd react to us aligning with the Soviets. In short, I'm willing to join if you agree to the condition that our membership be kept secret for now. |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 21:10:33 GMT
Only for Theron of Acragas You're already socialist, so if you join the WTO, the only thing you should do is support me and my allies (Viet Minh) in case of a war, like in any other military and diplomatic alliance. In exchange, we'll help you protect yourself against the other major Asian powers. India and Pakistan seem to be forming an alliance, so it's only natural that the socialist powers unite. China is neutral for now, so the only one who can actively help you is us. We're the biggest army of the world, and a superpower, so this alliance would be highly beneficial for you. The only thing I ask for is equal support and perhaps military help. And if you wish to focus on your internal matters (ooc: if you're busy irl ), you can still join, just generally supporting me is enough. If you wanted, you could send an army for me to use while you're away. Only for Eugene V. Debs, Sounds like a good deal. The problem is that I have another superpower to my south, which is, as you said, currently unaligned. While I have no friendly feelings towards China (in fact, they occupy significant Mongolian territories that I'd be happy to reclaim), it's obviously in my interests to maintain friendly relations with them, and I don't yet know how they'd react to us aligning with the Soviets. In short, I'm willing to join if you agree to the condition that our membership be kept secret for now. Only for Theron of AcragasEven if China was a threat to you, they wouldn't be able to do anything to you anyway as long as you were allied with me. I currently have a friendly relationship with China although they're neutral, and so does my ally Viet Minh. China has even sent arms to them. They even reduced their army to a million with an agrement I've made with them. As for your worry about their reaction to you aligning with me, Viet Minh has already done this, and China has been quite friendly to them. So, even if if you aligned with me, China wouldn't mind this.
Also, if you stayed non-aligned, it'd more dangerous. India and Pakistan seriously seem to be forming a new alliance, and as China is neutral, we're your only choice to find protection. Alterntively, if a problem between you and China arises, we'll be the only one who can protect you. We're your fellow socialits.
In conclusion, if you publicly joined the WTO, it would actually be more beneficial for you than a secret alliance. Because no one would dare to attack you in the first place. Even if they did, not without having to face the Red Army first, the greatest standing army of the entire world. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 14, 2023 21:39:35 GMT
India wishes to have a warm and cordial wishes with anyone willing to be our friends. We wish good relations, especially with China because the time of the westerners is at an end. It's time for the orientals to rise and rightly reclaim the power and prestige which was once rightly ours, but slowly suppressed by the imperialists. Only for Gerd von RundstedtI request a non agression pact with China. I have no stomach for a conflict with China. The future is that of the Asian dominance For John Marston only. I agree. I have no quarrel with you. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 14, 2023 21:42:14 GMT
Only for Gerd von RundstedtIf Sweden, now controlled by a far-right anti-communist regime that came with a coup, shows aggresion and if the situstion escalates, I hope that China will stay neutral, as we haven't intervened directly in Asia just like in our agreement, and I believe you'll leave Europe to me. Also, I'd be glad if you publicly denounce Sweden, it's not mandatory though, just kindly asking. Duke of Halland has banned the communist party and practically ended Swedish democracy, it's objectively despicable. So you can still condemn his actions while still staying neutral if you wish to stay so.
Pakistan and India seems to be quite close with the public alliance offer of Pakistan, ending their past hostility. And I don't know their intention yet, I'm waiting for the Indian response. So, if they attack you by any reason, you have my support. And if they attack me or Viet Minh, I hope you'll stay neutral at least, even if you don't directly help us fight. For Eugene V. Debs only. I will agree on the first part. As for India and Pakistan, I have a non-aggression pact with them. I have no worries about them. If they attack you, I will defend you, but with Viet Minh, I will only provide supplies. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 14, 2023 21:49:06 GMT
Only for Gerd von Rundstedt, Greetings. We are well aware of the advantages of your generous offer. Especially concerning for us are the expansionist ambitions of our northern neighbor. However, we cannot ignore our previous history and the fact that many Mongolian territories are currently occupied by China. Of course, for many reasons it would be unsuitable to return these territories at this time, but if you were to guarantee autonomy for Mongolian regions in China, within these regions make the Mongolian language official and require it to be taught in schools, it would be appreciated as a gesture of good will and I think we could agree to your proposal. For Theron of Acragas only. I am prepared to happily agree to your offer, with one exception. While we will certainly give substantially more local power to Mongolian regions, autonomy is a nonstarter. What I can do is make a region of the areas filled mostly with ethnic Mongolians and allow them to rule themselves, similar to the other areas among the expanses of China, like Xinjiang. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 14, 2023 21:51:24 GMT
I would like to formally denounce the recent coup in Sweden. With the current political instability of the world, we must reject adding to that instability. I will not recognize this new government as the legitimate one. If we cannot have order in this world, we can have nothing else.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 14, 2023 21:52:46 GMT
Also, Eugene V. Debs, does this announcement of rainbows and unicorns within your borders mean that you have disbanded your army? After all, with that sort of decentralization, you must be easy pickings for western pigs. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 14, 2023 21:53:46 GMT
For Warlord247 only. I wouldn't get in the way if you were to invade Russia. That's all. |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 21:54:16 GMT
Only for Gerd von RundstedtIf Sweden, now controlled by a far-right anti-communist regime that came with a coup, shows aggresion and if the situstion escalates, I hope that China will stay neutral, as we haven't intervened directly in Asia just like in our agreement, and I believe you'll leave Europe to me. Also, I'd be glad if you publicly denounce Sweden, it's not mandatory though, just kindly asking. Duke of Halland has banned the communist party and practically ended Swedish democracy, it's objectively despicable. So you can still condemn his actions while still staying neutral if you wish to stay so.
Pakistan and India seems to be quite close with the public alliance offer of Pakistan, ending their past hostility. And I don't know their intention yet, I'm waiting for the Indian response. So, if they attack you by any reason, you have my support. And if they attack me or Viet Minh, I hope you'll stay neutral at least, even if you don't directly help us fight. For Eugene V. Debs only. I will agree on the first part. As for India and Pakistan, I have a non-aggression pact with them. I have no worries about them. If they attack you, I will defend you, but with Viet Minh, I will only provide supplies. Only for Gerd von RundstedtAlright, that sounds good. By the way, I've offered an alliance to Mongolia. They seem a bit worried about being geographically stuck between two major powers, you and me, but I've assured them that you've been pretty friendly so far and that you're not a threat. So, assuming they accept my alliance offer, you don't need to worry about a problem with your Northern border, and instead, you can continue to focus on your own development. As three of us are neighbours, it'll be nice to have a friendly relationship.
The new alliances seems like me, Viet Minh and Mongolia against Sweden, India, Pakistan and Luxembourg, and the US, although it's currently inactive. In any case, thank you for your support. We'll do the same for you if a situation arises. |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 22:03:06 GMT
Also, Eugene V. Debs, does this announcement of rainbows and unicorns within your borders mean that you have disbanded your army? After all, with that sort of decentralization, you must be easy pickings for western pigs. Lmao, all revolutionary armies leave the chat. In any case, no, it of course doesn't mean that. Furthermore, we're not fully decentralized, instead we're just applying semi-direct democracy on a local level (which even Switzerland practices irl). Even the real life USSR already had similar councils/soviets (hence the Soviet in the name, which means council), we've merely improved it. Just like the others such as Revolutionary Catalonia. |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Jul 14, 2023 22:15:04 GMT
Only for Eugene V. Debs, To be clear, I don't expect any treaty to stay secret long-term, but I'd like to bring our ongoing negotiations with China to a close and see where we stand with them. If I do have to pick a side, your side makes more sense, but friendly relations with a superpower neighbor are obviously better than armed neutrality. India, by the way, concerns me very little. It would be very difficult logistically for them to attack me and strategically China clearly wouldn't allow it no matter what our relations. |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 22:28:12 GMT
Only for Eugene V. Debs, To be clear, I don't expect any treaty to stay secret long-term, but I'd like to bring our ongoing negotiations with China to a close and see where we stand with them. If I do have to pick a side, your side makes more sense, but friendly relations with a superpower neighbor are obviously better than armed neutrality. India, by the way, concerns me very little. It would be very difficult logistically for them to attack me and strategically China clearly wouldn't allow it no matter what our relations. Only for Theron of AcragasSure. Like I said, China is currently friendly with us, so you don't need to worry about their reaction to your alliance with me. They wouldn't mind this, they didn't when Vietnam joined me either. On the contrary, China literally sent aid to them in the war. And in case China attacks you (better safe than sorry) (which is also pretty easy thanks to their numerical advantage over you), your public alliance with me would prevent it. Because they'd have to face and Vietnam me as well in that case. And if this didn't happen, you'd still have benefitted from having a good relationship with bot your neighbours, me and them. Alliance with me is a win-win situation for you.
As for India and Pakistan, you put too much blind faith in the Chinese. Secondly, while it'd be hard logistically, a major power is a major power. And if you supported them against me, you'd have naturally antagonized me.
In any case, you can still keep a good relationship with them despite our alliance, so long as they keep the same with me. But if a war broke out between us, you would need to support me due to our alliance. I think it's fair, because you also get protection from me, the greatest army of the world, in exchange. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 15, 2023 0:29:53 GMT
Luxembourg continues the civilian training program. Due to our small organizational process we will be able to recruit 1000 soldiers every page until our army is capped at 50000. Also Theron of Acragas which country are you RP'ing as? |
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If you want, we're more than glad to welcome the refugees till the war ends, which seems pretty near anyway.
), you can still join, just generally supporting me is enough. If you wanted, you could send an army for me to use while you're away.
