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Post by John Marston on Jul 14, 2023 4:24:56 GMT
About 500,000 troops are deployed on the India Pakistan border. About 300,000 are deployed on Nepal and 200,000 on Bhutanese border. Instead of War between the brotherly states of Pakistan and Hindustan, there should be peace. Our differences should not allow the colonizers to get the best of us. I propose a strategic alliance between us to forward our shared goals We are brothers after all. We maybe physically divided, but we have the same cultures, traditions and values. I propose a union between the Republic of India and Pakistan. 0. Pakistan should stop calling us Hindustan we wish to be secular. 1. Officially, India and Pakistan are one nation, but each of us hold their own elections and have control over their respective 1950 borders. No Indian can contest in Pakistani elections and no Pakistani in Indian elections. 2. The borders between India and Pakistan will be completely erased. Free movement between people of both the countries will be allowed. However, the people from Pakistan will not be granted voting rights in India. 3. Military wise, the division shall be according to the population percentage. However, each country shall have control of their own military. For now, until we know more about recruitment, each country shall have command of the troops provided. 4. India and Pakistan are forbidden to attack each other. 5. India and Pakistan shall have a joint foreign policy. Each nation shall inform the other before making foreign policy changes. Any changes made without informing the other shall be vetoed. However, if the leader of either nation is absent for more than one week after a submitting a proposal, that proposal will go through. 6. An attack on India or Pakistan is considered as an attack on both. 7. Either country can leave the alliance at any time. I put forward these agreement because it is in my interest to reunite the peoples of India and Pakistan. The immense bloodshed and violence could have been avoided during the partition, but the colonial masters did a very bad job. With this pact, I believe that the Muslims will feel safe in a wider Indo-Pakistan country while also having independence and control of their own future.
In short, India and Pakistan would be united officially, but each have complete control over their own military and 1950 borders. No voting rights or ability to contest elections for Indians in Pakistan and vice versa. Let's put the military things aside for when things clearer (about recruitment and all). The only common thing we will be having is the foreign policy. I made this bold decision and terms because I have a complete faith in Don Quixote de la Mancha . He knows what the right thing to do is. I really hope that you will agree to this pact, at least for the sake of millions of people seperated from their families, stuck with no belongings on either side of the border.
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Post by John Marston on Jul 14, 2023 4:35:57 GMT
My military factories start producing tanks and artillery. They are divided in half i.e. half of them produce tanks and the remaining half produce artillery.
This post is just a sort of "I have started military production" thing. The exact numbers on factories are yet to be announced by the game creators.
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Post by John Marston on Jul 14, 2023 4:41:11 GMT
Seeing the deteriorating situation and the violence in Vietnam, about 20,000 peacekeeping force shall be sent to Vietnam. The peacekeeping force guards the Red cross and other humanitarian organisations and willing to help any soldier, from any side. Along with that, medicine and wheat is sent so that the civilians don't suffer.
In a show of solidarity with the citizens of Vietnam, India is willing to take about 200,000 refugees into it's country.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 7:32:03 GMT
Only for Theron of Acragas As the Soviet Union, we would like to offer you a treaty of friendship and mutual assistance pact. We'd like to keep friendly relations with you, as long as you don't ally with the capitalist powers, or any of my or my allies' enemies.
Furthermore, we'd like to offer you to join the WTO against Nato. If we were in the same alliance, we would be able to easily protect you after all. Only for Eugene V. Debs, Greetings. Mongolia is only too happy to accept your generosity and friendship (have you seen our other neighbors??) If we were to join the WTO, what would be our responsibilities and privileges? We will have to give further consideration to this question. Only for Theron of AcragasYou're already socialist, so if you join the WTO, the only thing you should do is support me and my allies (Viet Minh) in case of a war, like in any other military and diplomatic alliance. In exchange, we'll help you protect yourself against the other major Asian powers. India and Pakistan seem to be forming an alliance, so it's only natural that the socialist powers unite. China is neutral for now, so the only one who can actively help you is us. We're the biggest army of the world, and a superpower, so this alliance would be highly beneficial for you. The only thing I ask for is equal support and perhaps military help. And if you wish to focus on your internal matters (ooc: if you're busy irl ), you can still join, just generally supporting me is enough. If you wanted, you could send an army for me to use while you're away.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jul 14, 2023 7:44:40 GMT
The enemy have been once again divided into two! Now 200,000 troops defend an enemy attack on Cambodia and 200,000 attack the western Laotian-Cambodian pocket. m_k1ssYb·
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 7:58:53 GMT
As the biggest country in Eurasia, and as the biggest anti-imperialist power, we fully support this. Only for John Marston If you support Viet Minh (or at least not oppose it), and do not support the imperialist powers such as the US and the UK, I'd be glad to have a good relationship with you, especially against Pakistan. If you intend to become socialist, I'd be glad to even welcome you into the WTO.
But if you wish to stay neutral, we can still be friendly with you, as long as you don't support the capitalist West in any way. We already have a good relationship with the neutral China, and we intend to continue this cooperation in Asia. Only for Eugene V. DebsI'm openly against any form of imperialism and colonialism. I believe that it is in the best interest of all the people that countries should be granted independence. We currently have a socialist government governing the country so we have our reasons to be allies. But that being said, we want to be friendly with all the countries. So while we continue to trade with you, we similarly will continue to trade and have good relations with the West too. We wish to stay neutral for now, but we will continue to have good relations. (you know me, I support the weaker side and it generally is not the one which has USSR . It may change though if USA starts making some moves.) The Indian government would also like to request a Soviet investment in the heavy industry sector of India. Even though I cannot probably help the Soviet Union in exchange in any way, we urge you to invest in India because we have good potential. Only for John MarstonAs long as you don't directly support Nato in any way, or any enemies of us and those of our allies, there's no reason for us not to be friendly. So, yes, that's fair.
Out of roleplaying: Of course, you can join any side you want, just wanted to start it with an alliance offer lol. Currently, among the active players, me and Viet Minh are allied, China is neutral, Mongolia is uncertain, and Sweden is actively anti-commumist. I expect Sweden and Luxembourg to ally as anti-communists, but I don't know. So, the balance is currently a bit complicated lol, just wanted to let you know the current situation.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 11:06:56 GMT
With the anti-communist wave in Sweden, and the growing international arena with India, Pakistan and Mongolia, and the uncertainty of the situation, we, the Soviet Union, are increasing defensive measures to adapt to this new international situation. We will again recruit 400,000 soldiers.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 11:40:21 GMT
As the continuation of our recent reforms which started a new era for the Soviet Union, we introduce a new constitution, now officially a semi-direct democratic and revolutionary socialist workers' state consisting of local communes. Workers' councils (known as soviets) and popular assemblies form this local part of the system, promoting grassroots and participatory democracy in a semi-direct form for local issues, based on the principles of cooperation and mutual aid. These councils/soviets are designed in a decentralized, bottom-up and democratic way.
The previous administrations unfortunately violated minority rights many times. Therefore, with the new consititution, minority rights are improved, with all citizens, regardless of their race, ethnicity, gender and sexuality, being completely equal from now on. The capitalists say human rights, those empty words, because the only way there can genuinely be human rights is socialism. Every citizen, like before, has a right to live and all other essential human needs, such as food, housing, education, healthcare and so on.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 11:57:25 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus We believe that Luxembourg can see how undemocratic and hypocritical Sweden is. They claim to be a liberal democracy, yet they ban parties and brutally oppress protests. They claim to be neutral, yet they're now openly anti-communist. We request the withdrawal of the Duke of Halland, the restoration of the previous goverment, and reperation for the exiled communists. The Swedish leftists have suffered a lot due to these brutal and undemocratic events, and the Duke of Halland has formed a brutal dictatorship, as well as being no longer neutral. He has taken power practically with a coup. He more or less seems like a new Hitler, and I believe you're anti-fascist. He's also openly anti-communist, so don't expect us to sit silently while our comrades are openly persecuted. If you really support liberal democracy like you claim, you can clearly see we're right here, you don't even need to be socialist. It's undemocratic even by a capitalist perspective. Only for Eugene V. DebsWhile we are not necessarily in favour of the communist partisans, the arrest of political dissidents done by the Swedish government is concerning. We have offered to send a delegation to Sweden to mediate the situation and to hold peace talks. Only for Darth NihilusIn that case, we will expect reperations for the exiled communists, the withdrawal of the dictator Duke of Halland who started all this, the repeal of the ban on the Communist Party. and the restoration of the previous government. Sweden, now being openly anti-communist, is no longer neutral, thus, we have the right to intervene if peaceful methods don't work. We shall protect the human rights of our comrades.
So, unless Sweden restores their neutrality, we will have to intervene to protect the communists. As they're openly opposing us now, it is only natural. I hope we can convince Duke of Halland to peacefully step back and thus, Sweden to become neutral once again.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 14, 2023 13:56:01 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus In that case, we will expect reperations for the exiled communists, the withdrawal of the dictator Duke of Halland who started all this, the repeal of the ban on the Communist Party. and the restoration of the previous government. Sweden, now being openly anti-communist, is no longer neutral, thus, we have the right to intervene if peaceful methods don't work. We shall protect the human rights of our comrades.
So, unless Sweden restores their neutrality, we will have to intervene to protect the communists. As they're openly opposing us now, it is only natural. I hope we can convince Duke of Halland to peacefully step back and thus, Sweden to become neutral once again. Only for Eugene V. DebsSince we're only sending 1000 soldiers and we don't have a lot of political power I don't know how much I will be able to force the issue on Sweden. I can probably repeal the Communist ban and restore political parties but reparations will be up to them.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 14, 2023 13:58:52 GMT
The delegation of Luxembourgian officers has reached Sweden. We request a dialogue with the Swedish government to know their conditions as well as access to Communist partisans in prison or in exile. Seeing the situation in Vietnam unfold and due to our trade deal with John Marston, we are sending a peace force of 1500 soldiers to both help India process refugees and also transport 1000 refugees into our own country. Luxembourg is also developing the usage of solar panels and windmills to use in our own country, as well as nuclear reactors that may be useful abroad.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 14:00:32 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus In that case, we will expect reperations for the exiled communists, the withdrawal of the dictator Duke of Halland who started all this, the repeal of the ban on the Communist Party. and the restoration of the previous government. Sweden, now being openly anti-communist, is no longer neutral, thus, we have the right to intervene if peaceful methods don't work. We shall protect the human rights of our comrades.
So, unless Sweden restores their neutrality, we will have to intervene to protect the communists. As they're openly opposing us now, it is only natural. I hope we can convince Duke of Halland to peacefully step back and thus, Sweden to become neutral once again. Only for Eugene V. DebsSince we're only sending 1000 soldiers and we don't have a lot of political power I don't know how much I will be able to force the issue on Sweden. I can probably repeal the Communist ban and restore political parties but reparations will be up to them. Only for Darth NihilusOf course, I can deal with the rest, or in case they refuse to negotiate at all. Just wanted to let you know my conditions since you offered to try negotiating.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 14:03:10 GMT
Ludwig von Mises, the Soviet Union demands the withdrawal of Duke of Halland, the restoration of the Swedish democracy and the elected government, the repeal of the ban of the communist party the return of the exiled communists, and reperations for all the things they suffered.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jul 14, 2023 14:34:47 GMT
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš VorošilovBoth India and Luxembourg have offered to take refugees from you. For what? To weaken you by decreasing your population? To increase their influence on you by using this later? If they really wanted to help you, they would send you military support, like WE did. In any case, I don't think I need to say it loud that we will send more humanitarian aid if you want it.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jul 14, 2023 15:28:20 GMT
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš VorošilovBoth India and Luxembourg have offered to take refugees from you. For what? To weaken you by decreasing your population? To increase their influence on you by using this later? If they really wanted to help you, they would send you military support, like WE did. In any case, I don't think I need to say it loud that we will send more humanitarian aid if you want it. Only for Eugene V. DebsYep, they're doing more harm than good, but rn there's not really much I can do about it.
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