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Post by nikomachos on Jul 12, 2023 12:42:36 GMT
So i was surprised to see there was a 9th available field in epic war and now the question is which gen to pick bc i have only 6 invested in. The remaing 2 for 8 total are already much weaker.
I have the obvious: cav com, mithy, vercy, octav, pomp, belis.
The secondary but obvious: drusus, huo
So who to pick?
Hasdrubal bc good unit, thump and armor? But expensive unit points
Cleo i have her already and has armor. But why a hybrid over sb else?
Bato: vercy has woad armor already + expensive unit, but thump.
Li would be perfect but expensive
Arminius well cheap (90) and has his own armor but i have 3 cav already and he for me currently lacks investment (huo as well lacks investment and has priority over Arm.)and is fragile -> but maybe he is the way to go in the long run.
Pacorus just for fun?
Crassus bc solid. But medium cost and pomp has armor already
Torn between hasdrubals thump, crassus mediocrity, and arminius cheapness atm. (I wish i could go Li with good conscience but id have to upgrade him first and he remains expensive in points.)
Pls recommend a 9th gen and why he is the best choice.
No iaps
And is 9 the final max number or do the last stages have even more slots?
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jul 12, 2023 13:14:27 GMT
I've got the exact same 8 generals as you. The 9th, however, might surprise, it's Cassius. This is simply for the reason that ftp players don't really have the items to have 9 strong damage dealers, so I chose a legionary (because defending is important because no recruitmen) with rumour on the side. All in all, the 9th puck isn't probably too important, but if you can afford to deploy Hasdrubal/Phraates IV, I'd say go for it. If you want to go cheap, which may be a good idea, I'd even go for Antony instead lf Arminius, because Arminius won't prbably be able to do good damage, so why not just focus on mobility.
PS. Also depends on the level. Antony might prove useful sometimes, whereas a defender can be better for a different level.
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Post by stoic on Jul 12, 2023 13:32:57 GMT
Since now I am planning to do the same - namely to complete the game with only 9 generals - I am in the same boat with nikomachos. But I am more or less sure about my team. Infantry: in addition to two best Infantry generals I decided to use Aetius as my third Infantry general. I think he is hardly any worse than any other possible candidates. And he is free and relatively easy to unlock. Archers: Mithridates, Drusus and Octavian. I am an old fan of Drusus and even prefer him to Octavian from early to mid-game. Cavalry: Commander, Belisarius and Arminius. A choice between Arminius and Huo is not an easy one, but I find Huo's special unit too expensive to deploy. And since Chariots of Belisarius and Javelineers of Octavian and Drusus are also very expensive units I need to cut corners somewhere else. |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Jul 12, 2023 16:40:15 GMT
With the same lineup as you I have Arminius. Tbh he seems even more obvious than Drusus, largely because he gets elite armor.
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 12, 2023 20:39:21 GMT
KJV, well idk if i can "afford" it its a choice of having some more non maxed guys or taking arminius over sb expensive but at higher lvl. (For example drusus i always give only 3 units in legion. Pompey and octavian dont get maxed either normally.) I was aware of the cassius rumor fandom a little but i myself dont currently consider it. Good point on mobility of anthony but i think arminius having his own armor and beeing decent just ought to more than make up for it. Theron, well your right. No your not.  I remain torn. i dont think its that obvious bc cav just gets wrecked in the endgame. If there was a great cheap archer option id go for that. Sadly surena also doesnt get armor bc of mithy. Thats why Li would have been so appealing to me. Arminius just seems to have that fault of dying the moment you want him to do some heavy lifting 😆 Stoic, he sure is decent and free. But i think i will have more fun with sb better and hopefully available armor. I would actually pick cassius over him  |
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 12, 2023 20:54:20 GMT
Theron which banner are you using on him 🤔
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Jul 13, 2023 6:15:09 GMT
Theron which banner are you using on him 🤔 Minerva with no upgrades (Jungle fighting), Art of War and Gallicus Uniform. Yeah, he gets nothing good. I try to use him more for cleanup of weaker units and stronger generals for the heavy lifting. As a goblin slayer and terracotta smasher, he's satisfactory. Li is tempting, crossbowman is good and he gets an elite armor (you could even do legendary if there was a strong general), but his skills just don't add up, and crossbowmen are expensive IIRC. I think there's a case for Bato as the ninth general, if he got elite armor I'd have him instead of Drusus. I don't really see other options. I don't buy Cassius, Rumor in GCR is surprisingly weak. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 13, 2023 11:30:27 GMT
KJV, well idk if i can "afford" it its a choice of having some more non maxed guys or taking arminius over sb expensive but at higher lvl. (For example drusus i always give only 3 units in legion. Pompey and octavian dont get maxed either normally.) I was aware of the cassius rumor fandom a little but i myself dont currently consider it. Good point on mobility of anthony but i think arminius having his own armor and beeing decent just ought to more than make up for it. Theron, well your right. No your not. I remain torn. i dont think its that obvious bc cav just gets wrecked in the endgame. If there was a great cheap archer option id go for that. Sadly surena also doesnt get armor bc of mithy. Thats why Li would have been so appealing to me. Arminius just seems to have that fault of dying the moment you want him to do some heavy lifting 😆 Stoic, he sure is decent and free. But i think i will have more fun with sb better and hopefully available armor. I would actually pick cassius over him Actually, the fragility of Arminius is a bit overestimated, I believe. The stats of elite versions of Heavy Roman cavalry and Noble Barbarian cavalry are exactly the same. So, theoretically, with equal investments in skills and abilities they should be very close in terms of survivability. I definitely would prefer to deploy 5 units of Arminius to 3 units of Huo or Bato. |
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 13, 2023 13:22:50 GMT
stoic yes but since he would be my 4th cav he currently does not come close in investment regarding badges and rank upgrade. Already huo is faaaar behind the levels of cav com and beslisarius in upgrades.
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 13, 2023 13:29:50 GMT
So just in case you are interested. I did pick 4 stack hasdrubal to complete the mission that promted this thread. Didnt give him any upgrades but he gets the lvl 5 armor, which is huge in itself. He thumped some archers and held a city but died in the end. Idk if ill stick with him
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Post by stoic on Jul 13, 2023 14:59:02 GMT
So just in case you are interested. I did pick 4 stack hasdrubal to complete the mission that promted this thread. Didnt give him any upgrades but he gets the lvl 5 armor, which is huge in itself. He thumped some archers and held a city but died in the end. Idk if ill stick with him It was a very tempting option for me at the beginning too, but as in real life Hasdrubal is only a shadow of his brother. Yet, as you rightly pointed out, "the quantity is a quality in its own way" There are several nasty missions when defending key targets is of paramount importance... |
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 13, 2023 21:43:58 GMT
I've got the exact same 8 generals as you. The 9th, however, might surprise, it's Cassius. This is simply for the reason that ftp players don't really have the items to have 9 strong damage dealers, so I chose a legionary (because defending is important because no recruitmen) with rumour on the side. All in all, the 9th puck isn't probably too important, but if you can afford to deploy Hasdrubal/Phraates IV, I'd say go for it. If you want to go cheap, which may be a good idea, I'd even go for Antony instead lf Arminius, because Arminius won't prbably be able to do good damage, so why not just focus on mobility. PS. Also depends on the level. Antony might prove useful sometimes, whereas a defender can be better for a different level. Hey do you know if the gens rumor skill stacks with caduceus if i were to upgrade it? |
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Post by jonblend on Jul 15, 2023 10:05:28 GMT
Multiplicative stacking is more likely with 1-(1-0.2)*(1-0.2)=36% being the combined probability per attack. Imo still too unreliable, and since it's for attacking only, you'd need someone who can attack multiple times for better results. Dellius has rumor and a cavalry unit but he's pure trash so he's going to have a hard time triggering that second attack per turn.
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I remain torn. i dont think its that obvious bc cav just gets wrecked in the endgame. If there was a great cheap archer option id go for that. Sadly surena also doesnt get armor bc of mithy. Thats why Li would have been so appealing to me. Arminius just seems to have that fault of dying the moment you want him to do some heavy lifting 😆 
