jj70
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Post by jj70 on Sept 1, 2023 23:47:22 GMT
Just wondering why Robert the Bruce has the master of assault trait instead of the pole arm trait since his units use pole arm weapons
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Post by nikomachos on Sept 1, 2023 23:59:12 GMT
Bc he wielded an axe. (Item) and they went for his personal choice and not the unit
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Post by balthazar on Sept 3, 2023 20:45:36 GMT
I would love to see how do you guys opt out for end game Rob. Assuming we have everything (gem/gear) what would be the Best overall setup for him?
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Post by Dannes on Sept 4, 2023 2:17:13 GMT
I would love to see how do you guys opt out for end game Rob. Assuming we have everything (gem/gear) what would be the Best overall setup for him? Using 2 gold items on him with Irritability so he can go max morale asap
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Post by Boss Tweed on Sept 6, 2023 5:36:12 GMT
I would love to see how do you guys opt out for end game Rob. Assuming we have everything (gem/gear) what would be the Best overall setup for him? Not using him spamming blue gems onto him because no red gems to give him with rapier and infantry tactician helmet
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Post by balthazar on Sept 6, 2023 19:31:44 GMT
I opt out for tactic master2, def inf2, melee inf2 gem combibations. Beside helmet I use sword of mercy because I feel like he takes too much damage. Legion is lombardy-varangian-hengdao.
I am open to discussion, I feel like I dont get the damage you are talking about, so maybe I can improve him.
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Post by nikomachos on Sept 6, 2023 19:53:18 GMT
Well if you cant feel the dmg with that setup maybe give isolated force special attention in battle. Players with only 1 gembonus already rank him the highest inf for a reason.
Id argue you have the best balanced setup there is. You already said you gave him a little def but more dmg is only possible by lowering def. For more dmg you can assign golden 2h sword instead for dmg increase, but that would waste tactic master itemskill for murad 1. But the tacticmaster gemskill already gives you some extra def anyway. For even more dmg skipp the morale gem and give another red one... getting rid of tactic master as well, dmg increase again negatively impacting def.
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Post by balthazar on Sept 6, 2023 20:56:31 GMT
I shall watch for the isolation that may work. Btw I only play conquest challenge because thats whats left for me. Idk maybe challenge enemies are a bit tougher so I cant cut legions like butter 🙂 thanks for the heads up!
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Post by jonblend on Sept 7, 2023 10:08:51 GMT
I opt out for tactic master2, def inf2, melee inf2 gem combibations. Beside helmet I use sword of mercy because I feel like he takes too much damage. Legion is lombardy-varangian-hengdao. I am open to discussion, I feel like I dont get the damage you are talking about, so maybe I can improve him. Having the cumulative talent boni helps a lot with increasing infantry damage and survivability. Defensive tactic master doesn't add a lot of dmg reduction, especially if you can have up to 25% from sword of mercy + lombard combo. Apart from this try getting as much +10% unit combinations as possible while also including a whipping gem and possibly the second attack from viking warriors.
If you're using generic troops, I'd go for 3x melee inf or lombard and 2x m.inf with
unique: melee inf expert lv2 sword of mercy: lombard lv2 imp helmet: tactic master lv2
In case you recruit him from the tavern with mercenaries, then unique: varangian or hengdao lv1 or 2
sword of mercy: lombard lv2 imp helmet: viking warrior lv1 or 2 with lombard, varangian, hengdao (or replace hengdao who don't benefit from master of assault/vara with viking warrior for a more offensive/defensive version) [if you want, try royal swordsmen for their 35% extra dmg)
Edit: and as nikomachos pointed out, making use of the +20% from isolated force is also important. But you shouldn't let Bruce go too far forward, because challenge conquest enemies can kill even the best generals when he's open to attacks from 4 or more sides.
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Post by balthazar on Sept 7, 2023 19:12:34 GMT
I have really overlooked Lombard lvl2, it is because all infantry gem bonuses are irrelevant combinations, I never check those. Green+green+blue and +10% dmg is nice indeed. Once again thanks gentlemen.
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Post by balthazar on Sept 7, 2023 19:18:35 GMT
I would love to see how do you guys opt out for end game Rob. Assuming we have everything (gem/gear) what would be the Best overall setup for him? Using 2 gold items on him with Irritability so he can go max morale asap High morale is required but I can get there with Lombardy lvl5 talent. If you can upgrade them they are really mean against cav. I have thought upgrading swiss or modao, then the unique bonus and the talents led me to Lombardy.
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