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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 25, 2023 10:08:49 GMT
Can replace Nimitz as admiral #2 but Donitz still no. 1 for price efficiency. I will not discharge Nimitz for Raeder, though.
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Post by Heinz Guderian on Sept 25, 2023 10:59:45 GMT
Yup, German tank generals too(Guderian, Manstein) Yeah, but the difference is that with tank generals it seems more or less based on their historical feats, IMO. With admirals... Well, not that obvious. True, though they did Montgomery and Patton real bad, maybe it is because they only really participated near the end of the war. |
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Post by Heinz Guderian on Sept 25, 2023 11:04:01 GMT
Yeah, but the difference is that with tank generals it seems more or less based on their historical feats, IMO. With admirals... Well, not that obvious. True, though they did Montgomery and Patton real bad, maybe it is because they only really participated near the end of the war and didn’t really prove themselves. Although I do like Guderian more as a general |
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Post by micky on Sept 25, 2023 12:59:19 GMT
Heinz Guderian, I don't think this is the main reason because Patton was way better in WC3. For me, Guderian, Hoth and Rommel are top 3 tank commanders in WW2 (Manstein wasn't really a "tank" commander, but he is often regarded as the best general of WW2 overall, so it makes sense that he is that strong in the game as well). Some may argue that Montgomery beat Rommel in Africa and, in fact, he did, but I think most people agree that they were more or less comaprable commanders so giving one of them a slight advantage in the game is ok (unlike WC3, Monty is a decent gen in WC4). But I'd definitely put Nimitz and Yamamoto above both Raeder and Donitz.
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Post by Heinz Guderian on Sept 25, 2023 13:48:29 GMT
Heinz Guderian, I don't think this is the main reason because Patton was way better in WC3. For me, Guderian, Hoth and Rommel are top 3 tank commanders in WW2 (Manstein wasn't really a "tank" commander, but he is often regarded as the best general of WW2 overall, so it makes sense that he is that strong in the game as well). Some may argue that Montgomery beat Rommel in Africa and, in fact, he did, but I think most people agree that they were more or less comaprable commanders so giving one of them a slight advantage in the game is ok (unlike WC3, Monty is a decent gen in WC4). But I'd definitely put Nimitz and Yamamoto above both Raeder and Donitz. Yeah Guderian, Hoth and Rommel were great. Nitmitz better than Raeder and Dönitz? I switched from Nitmitz to Raeder and I enjoy Raeder a lot more. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 25, 2023 16:25:15 GMT
Heinz Guderian, I don't think this is the main reason because Patton was way better in WC3. For me, Guderian, Hoth and Rommel are top 3 tank commanders in WW2 (Manstein wasn't really a "tank" commander, but he is often regarded as the best general of WW2 overall, so it makes sense that he is that strong in the game as well). Some may argue that Montgomery beat Rommel in Africa and, in fact, he did, but I think most people agree that they were more or less comaprable commanders so giving one of them a slight advantage in the game is ok (unlike WC3, Monty is a decent gen in WC4). But I'd definitely put Nimitz and Yamamoto above both Raeder and Donitz. Yeah Guderian, Hoth and Rommel were great. Nitmitz better than Raeder and Dönitz? I switched from Nitmitz to Raeder and I enjoy Raeder a lot more. I think he's talking about real life. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 25, 2023 16:29:53 GMT
I think Raeder is in an awkward position. Admirals normally have Explosives but if you put Explosives on Raeder he becomes a slightly better Horton, which isn't worth it. If you add Wolfpack then why not Donitz?
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Post by Heinz Guderian on Sept 26, 2023 1:30:06 GMT
Yeah Guderian, Hoth and Rommel were great. Nitmitz better than Raeder and Dönitz? I switched from Nitmitz to Raeder and I enjoy Raeder a lot more. I think he's talking about real life. Oh yeah then that I agree |
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Post by Heinz Guderian on Sept 26, 2023 1:31:04 GMT
I think Raeder is in an awkward position. Admirals normally have Explosives but if you put Explosives on Raeder he becomes a slightly better Horton, which isn't worth it. If you add Wolfpack then why not Donitz? Hmmm true, I put sailor on him not sure if it is effective on him or not. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 26, 2023 12:53:19 GMT
I think Raeder is in an awkward position. Admirals normally have Explosives but if you put Explosives on Raeder he becomes a slightly better Horton, which isn't worth it. If you add Wolfpack then why not Donitz? Hmmm true, I put sailor on him not sure if it is effective on him or not. Rumor has it that a very OP naval skill will be released next update, +40% damage and 5% heal for the first hit in the turn when maxed out. That will give Raeder a huge advantage. I'm also told that Early Warning can also help clear 12 naval invasions comfortably. This might negatively impact Donitz if proven true since we used to rely on Wolfpack. |
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Post by Heinz Guderian on Sept 27, 2023 1:44:00 GMT
Hmmm true, I put sailor on him not sure if it is effective on him or not. Rumor has it that a very OP naval skill will be released next update, +40% damage and 5% heal for the first hit in the turn when maxed out. That will give Raeder a huge advantage. I'm also told that Early Warning can also help clear 12 naval invasions comfortably. This might negatively impact Donitz if proven true since we used to rely on Wolfpack. Well I can’t wait for that skill, sounds pretty good. |
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Post by Heinz Guderian on Sept 27, 2023 1:44:28 GMT
Rumor has it that a very OP naval skill will be released next update, +40% damage and 5% heal for the first hit in the turn when maxed out. That will give Raeder a huge advantage. I'm also told that Early Warning can also help clear 12 naval invasions comfortably. This might negatively impact Donitz if proven true since we used to rely on Wolfpack. I can’t wait for that skill, sounds pretty good. Thanks for the info. |
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 27, 2023 4:27:25 GMT
Hmmm true, I put sailor on him not sure if it is effective on him or not. Rumor has it that a very OP naval skill will be released next update, +40% damage and 5% heal for the first hit in the turn when maxed out. That will give Raeder a huge advantage. I'm also told that Early Warning can also help clear 12 naval invasions comfortably. This might negatively impact Donitz if proven true since we used to rely on Wolfpack. It's like Mikawa's skill in WC3 then. |
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Post by yfsharp on Oct 3, 2023 10:16:48 GMT
Should I get raeder first or doenitz?
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Post by pevertpanda on Oct 3, 2023 13:00:15 GMT
Should I get raeder first or doenitz? Donitz first (he has Wolfpack which is expensive to upgrade), and you needn't uprgade his navy stars, only give him rumour and early warning (cheaper than wolfpack). |
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