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Post by stoic on Nov 29, 2023 16:54:55 GMT
What do you think, guys, about him? I got him today, but I feel temptation to reroll him for someone I already have. His active skill is OK. But other than that... I don't know... His special unit is probably the weakest one in the IAP shop and can easily be skipped. Some purple generals are better than him, because they have an increased critical attack probability while he doesn't have it. And I already have 27 fragments of Suzuki.
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Post by CharlesMartel on Nov 29, 2023 17:35:13 GMT
Since you have Yoshihisa already, and can get Suzuki whenever you want, I'd probably go deep vs. wide on this choice. Akechi may also be totally owned by Date Masamune, who could even possibly be f2p.
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Post by balthazar on Nov 29, 2023 17:41:03 GMT
Yeah I agree. I should have rerolled him and tokugawa. Beside their value, upgrading them alone is the problem.
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Post by truhses on Nov 29, 2023 17:47:02 GMT
Among the Musketeers, Suzuki and Takigawa's passive skills seem to be better, and Shimazu Ihishisa's active skill is top (+ legend). I'm confused by two of Akechi's flanking skills. What does it mean?
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Post by stoic on Nov 29, 2023 17:50:27 GMT
Among the Musketeers, Suzuki and Takigawa's passive skills seem to be better, and Shimazu Ihishisa's active skill is top (+ legend). I'm confused by two of Akechi's flanking skills. What does it mean? Probably these are damage and moral drops bonuses against opponents who are surrounded on both sides... Like this one
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Post by truhses on Nov 29, 2023 17:59:22 GMT
Among the Musketeers, Suzuki and Takigawa's passive skills seem to be better, and Shimazu Ihishisa's active skill is top (+ legend). I'm confused by two of Akechi's flanking skills. What does it mean? Probably these are damage and moral drops bonuses against opponents who are surrounded on both sides... Like this one I thought so too, but how does this work with a ranged attack?
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Post by stoic on Nov 29, 2023 18:07:09 GMT
Probably these are damage and moral drops bonuses against opponents who are surrounded on both sides... Like this one I thought so too, but how does this work with a ranged attack? No idea, since I have no-one to test this. Another question is: should Akechi outflank enemy generals himself or is it enough if they are outflanked by others.
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Post by SolidLight on Nov 29, 2023 18:23:11 GMT
I really don’t like that we’re comparing people to each other rather than just to what we’re facing in the game. Unlike in every single other ET game, we’ve got really limited control over what we get. And that rerolling thing doesn’t always work. I tried it when I got him and that didn’t work. There is no guarantee that you actually get any of those purples that are better than him. I mean, I haven’t rolled Shigehide myself.
Later on, sure he’ll probably not be as good because chances are that you’ll have everyone in the long run and there’s several good teppo generals coming up. But the fact that you have him NOW doesn’t hurt at all and he’s probably good enough to be fielded a good amount, that is, unless you actually reroll him for something better. And what is that? The only hugely valuable golds are Motonari and Ujiyasu for their HLs and you have them.
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Post by CharlesMartel on Nov 29, 2023 22:21:25 GMT
I really don’t like that we’re comparing people to each other rather than just to what we’re facing in the game. Unlike in every single other ET game, we’ve got really limited control over what we get. And that rerolling thing doesn’t always work. I tried it when I got him and that didn’t work. There is no guarantee that you actually get any of those purples that are better than him. I mean, I haven’t rolled Shigehide myself. Later on, sure he’ll probably not be as good because chances are that you’ll have everyone in the long run and there’s several good teppo generals coming up. But the fact that you have him NOW doesn’t hurt at all and he’s probably good enough to be fielded a good amount, that is, unless you actually reroll him for something better. And what is that? The only hugely valuable golds are Motonari and Ujiyasu for their HLs and you have them. I think it's worth evaluating generals against each other, since we will eventually have more choices in who we field. I just rolled the choice between Mori and Akechi, and if it weren't for ultimate consideration of Legendary Stories, I would strongly consider Akechi since I have two great archers already. Eventually we will also be investing our Blue Flames, and that will open up a lot more choices.
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Post by SolidLight on Nov 29, 2023 23:03:22 GMT
I really don’t like that we’re comparing people to each other rather than just to what we’re facing in the game. Unlike in every single other ET game, we’ve got really limited control over what we get. And that rerolling thing doesn’t always work. I tried it when I got him and that didn’t work. There is no guarantee that you actually get any of those purples that are better than him. I mean, I haven’t rolled Shigehide myself. Later on, sure he’ll probably not be as good because chances are that you’ll have everyone in the long run and there’s several good teppo generals coming up. But the fact that you have him NOW doesn’t hurt at all and he’s probably good enough to be fielded a good amount, that is, unless you actually reroll him for something better. And what is that? The only hugely valuable golds are Motonari and Ujiyasu for their HLs and you have them. I think it's worth evaluating generals against each other, since we will eventually have more choices in who we field. I just rolled the choice between Mori and Akechi, and if it weren't for ultimate consideration of Legendary Stories, I would strongly consider Akechi since I have two great archers already. Eventually we will also be investing our Blue Flames, and that will open up a lot more choices. Alright, so that’s you having two great archers, not everyone has that in the short term. I had the exact opposite situation. I was relying on Nene as an archer (and she’s out and out terrible at the job) and had a huge amount of teppo already. Sure, how useful someone is depends on what else you have, so Saito Dosan is less useful if you’ve got Motochika + Motonari, but everyone has a completely different lineup. So I just don’t think it’s fair to compare SPECIFIC generals that way. That’s less of a problem when it comes Cav/Inf though. Since those unit types have the only two 100% guaranteed generals that everyone has, and they’re both REALLY good. kanue posted something about how a lot of generals are good on the main thread. And it’s true. You can work with almost anything the game throws at you because most golds and purples are just good. Also, blue flames are really deceptive in how much control they actually afford you. You are STILL pretty much hinging on rolling because you need 150 for a purple from scratch. That’s 15 guaranteed purple rolls and probably about 8 more on average. And purple rolls are like 25-29 frags. You should either: 1. spend it fast if you’ve rolled a purple with a HL and you don’t have many already 2. Save it for Mori Motonari/Hojo Ujiyasu if you don’t have them. This is because their sweeps are more valuable than purple sweeps and there’s no telling how long it’ll take otherwise to get them. 3. Use it on a very critical purple, Otomo Sorin is pretty much the only one I can think of. 4. Spend it to upgrade a good purple that you have that doesn’t have a HL. This is because it’s hard otherwise to rank up a specific purple. There’s 26 purple generals (and there will be more) and any roll can be any of them and you can’t rig the RNG. So no, the flames don’t really «open up more» choices. It’s still the gacha RNG that’s responisble for 99% of what your lineup should look like.
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Post by stoic on Nov 30, 2023 3:53:32 GMT
I really don’t like that we’re comparing people to each other rather than just to what we’re facing in the game. Unlike in every single other ET game, we’ve got really limited control over what we get. And that rerolling thing doesn’t always work. I tried it when I got him and that didn’t work. There is no guarantee that you actually get any of those purples that are better than him. I mean, I haven’t rolled Shigehide myself. Later on, sure he’ll probably not be as good because chances are that you’ll have everyone in the long run and there’s several good teppo generals coming up. But the fact that you have him NOW doesn’t hurt at all and he’s probably good enough to be fielded a good amount, that is, unless you actually reroll him for something better. And what is that? The only hugely valuable golds are Motonari and Ujiyasu for their HLs and you have them. True enough... I can't get rid of him anyway So, the whole thing with rerolling is a very unreliable tool to get what you want. But, hey, the guy is top tier general. These are supposed to be crème de la crème of the game with only 2% probability to get their fragments. He should have some advantages over purple tier generals. And, truth be told, I don't see many, if any...
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Post by SolidLight on Nov 30, 2023 4:12:19 GMT
I really don’t like that we’re comparing people to each other rather than just to what we’re facing in the game. Unlike in every single other ET game, we’ve got really limited control over what we get. And that rerolling thing doesn’t always work. I tried it when I got him and that didn’t work. There is no guarantee that you actually get any of those purples that are better than him. I mean, I haven’t rolled Shigehide myself. Later on, sure he’ll probably not be as good because chances are that you’ll have everyone in the long run and there’s several good teppo generals coming up. But the fact that you have him NOW doesn’t hurt at all and he’s probably good enough to be fielded a good amount, that is, unless you actually reroll him for something better. And what is that? The only hugely valuable golds are Motonari and Ujiyasu for their HLs and you have them. True enough... I can't get rid of him anyway So, the whole thing with rerolling is a very unreliable tool to get what you want. But, hey, the guy is top tier general. These are supposed to be crème de la crème of the game with only 2% probability to get their fragments. He should have some advantages over purple tier generals. And, truth be told, I don't see many, if any... Tbh, (top tier) purples and golds are pretty interchangable in the game in actual performance. What’s different is how much their frags are worth. So golds are best farmed with the special mission or libraries and purples should be upgraded with the flames. I think we should be looking at generals in tiers, and Mitsuhide is still a pretty high tier teppo (and teppo are awesome in general) so it’s likely that he’ll still be pretty useful, he’s certainly for me even with very little invested.
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Post by stoic on Nov 30, 2023 10:47:40 GMT
While thinking of how I should equip him, I noticed that there are nice and cheap purple items that improve his skills. His special unit has a decent crit rate probability, so, probably, it is possible to utilize his talents after all.
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