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Post by Silenus on Dec 10, 2023 22:25:58 GMT
Im new to the game and pulled Motonari with the 70 rolls. I really like Motonari so I bought the mounted archers for him. I am saving Ban-kin and was wondering what generals or items should I get?
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Post by Silenus on Dec 10, 2023 22:34:04 GMT
Forgot to say that they should be F2P.
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Post by SolidLight on Dec 10, 2023 23:05:32 GMT
Thereβs no such thing as Β«getting a generalΒ» in a controlled way in this game. The only means of doing that is to spend blue flames, but blue flames can only be obtained by rolling, so it has an incredibly minor impact on how your roster gets constructed. Occasionally you might be able to choose between two gold rolls. But other than that you just have to work with what you get.
But overall some of the top tier ones are:
Inf: Yoshihiro, Nobutsuna, Hideyoshi
Cav: Keiji, Katsuie, Tadakatsu and probably Masakage
Archer: Motochika, Motonari, Ieyasu
Teppo: Yoshihisa, Shigehide, Kazumazu, Mitsuhide
Artillery: Sorin and Ujiyasu.
Navy (who cares?): Yoshitaka and Murakami
I will say though, the game isnβt very hard, and even some guys below those can still carry their weight somewhat. That totally makes sense because ET had to balance the game so you couldnβt get screwed over by bad luck (not that they completely succeded at that). So I wouldnβt blow flames on anyone (and this requires getting a roll to do at your point) unless youβre severely lacking guys with Legendary stories. The only general Iβve spent any flames on was Motochika, because I only had Yoshihisa as a general with a legendary story at that point. The fact that Motochika is a top tier archer wasnβt as important but nice anyway.
You should be getting the Conpendium of Zhenjiu, The Scroll of Tokuhon O Jukoho and the Bencao Gangmu, and a bunch of horses. The details on the horses arenβt so important, but those three items are the only healing items in the game and theyβre completely gamechanging, though admittedly some of them takes a bit of progressing to unlock
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Post by stoic on Dec 11, 2023 3:01:17 GMT
Among cavalry generals I like Yamanaka Yukimori too. His specialized unit is one of the fastest in the game, so it synergies well with a long-distance Raid ability. Shima Sakon has some potential as well. Btw, there is a good horse that can increase Cavalry adaptability (and Valor) of generals with 4 Cavalry stars  |
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Post by truhses on Dec 11, 2023 6:15:03 GMT
Among cavalry generals I like Yamanaka Yukimori too. His specialized unit is one of the fastest in the game, so it synergies well with a long-distance Raid ability. Shima Sakon has some potential as well. Btw, there is a good horse that can increase Cavalry adaptability (and Valor) of generals with 4 Cavalry stars What about his active skill, does it seem to suck? And what is adaptability? |
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Post by stoic on Dec 11, 2023 7:16:18 GMT
Among cavalry generals I like Yamanaka Yukimori too. His specialized unit is one of the fastest in the game, so it synergies well with a long-distance Raid ability. Shima Sakon has some potential as well. Btw, there is a good horse that can increase Cavalry adaptability (and Valor) of generals with 4 Cavalry stars What about his active skill, does it seem to suck? And what is adaptability? His active skill is quite OK, actually. The negative part of it isn't that important because counterattack damage is moderate at best, so it is actually +40% damage (maybe more with further upgrades). It is just about to cover a long distance and to hit hard  Adaptability is basically another term for "stars". Some generals like Maeda have 5* for commanding Cavalry, some 4 or less. There are some items that increase it. It isn't possible, as it seems, to increase it to 6*, so such items are better suited for generals with 4*, increasing thus their Adaptability to the standards of best Cavalry generals. |
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Post by truhses on Dec 11, 2023 9:02:59 GMT
The question is whether the effect of the skill extends to the enemyβs turn.
In addition, +40% damage looks pale compared to the 100% damage from the skill of other cavalry generals like Maeda, Honda, etc. Which is also an additional hit without a counterattack.
So 100%(no counterattack) + 100% vs 140% (counterattack +20%).
The only good thing about this guy is that he is a legend.
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Post by stoic on Dec 11, 2023 9:33:14 GMT
The question is whether the effect of the skill extends to the enemyβs turn. In addition, +40% damage looks pale compared to the 100% damage from the skill of other cavalry generals like Maeda, Honda, etc. Which is also an additional hit without a counterattack. So 100%(no counterattack) + 100% vs 140% (counterattack +20%). The only good thing about this guy is that he is a legend. Yes, I agree that it is not the same bonus Maeda and other top cavalry generals have. And it is not that easy to get his fragments either, because his HL is hardly anyone's first choice. But, at least, there is a way to upgrade him if we want to. And that is not a minor deal. Luckily we have enough fragments for upgrading Maeda, but then we are completely in RNG Territory. If someone has Honda or Shibata at lvl 4, he should be extremely lucky. Plus Yamanaka Yukimori has a bonus for commanding his specialized unit. Neither Maeda, nor Honda, nor Shibata have it. In fact, Honda doesn't have any bonus at all in the f2p world because his unit is p2w, and Maeda and Shibata are sharing the same unit. So, even if he is not up to the standard of the best cavalry generals, he's close enough to fill in the gaps when needed. |
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Post by truhses on Dec 11, 2023 9:50:52 GMT
The question is whether the effect of the skill extends to the enemyβs turn. In addition, +40% damage looks pale compared to the 100% damage from the skill of other cavalry generals like Maeda, Honda, etc. Which is also an additional hit without a counterattack. So 100%(no counterattack) + 100% vs 140% (counterattack +20%). The only good thing about this guy is that he is a legend. Yes, I agree that it is not the same bonus Maeda and other top cavalry generals have. And it is not that easy to get his fragments either, because his HL is hardly anyone's first choice. But, at least, there is a way to upgrade him if we want to. And that is not a minor deal. Luckily we have enough fragments for upgrading Maeda, but then we are completely in RNG Territory. If someone has Honda or Shibata at lvl 4, he should be extremely lucky. Plus Yamanaka Yukimori has a bonus for commanding his specialized unit. Neither Maeda, nor Honda, nor Shibata have it. In fact, Honda doesn't have any bonus at all in the f2p world because his unit is p2w, and Maeda and Shibata are sharing the same unit. So, even if he is not up to the standard of the best cavalry generals, he's close enough to fill in the gaps when needed. Yes, f2p players will have to deal with him, especially from the mid-game when upgrading top cavalry generals will become a problem. Let's hope that ET will correct his skill, which is unworthy of the legendary general. |
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Post by stoic on Dec 11, 2023 10:19:36 GMT
Yes, I agree that it is not the same bonus Maeda and other top cavalry generals have. And it is not that easy to get his fragments either, because his HL is hardly anyone's first choice. But, at least, there is a way to upgrade him if we want to. And that is not a minor deal. Luckily we have enough fragments for upgrading Maeda, but then we are completely in RNG Territory. If someone has Honda or Shibata at lvl 4, he should be extremely lucky. Plus Yamanaka Yukimori has a bonus for commanding his specialized unit. Neither Maeda, nor Honda, nor Shibata have it. In fact, Honda doesn't have any bonus at all in the f2p world because his unit is p2w, and Maeda and Shibata are sharing the same unit. So, even if he is not up to the standard of the best cavalry generals, he's close enough to fill in the gaps when needed. Yes, f2p players will have to deal with him, especially from the mid-game when upgrading top cavalry generals will become a problem. Let's hope that ET will correct his skill, which is unworthy of the legendary general. Or, at the very least, they can release some equipment for him, increasing his crit rate, for example. |
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Post by π΅πππ ππ π¬ππ on Dec 12, 2023 6:19:36 GMT
There appears to be a unit hierarchy, but it's not very well established
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