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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jan 14, 2024 17:38:58 GMT
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Post by nikomachos on Jan 16, 2024 7:35:40 GMT
Doesnt make sense 😆
Man these bots
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 7, 2024 16:50:57 GMT
   Red flags: 1. 5 gens with nearly 100k power. Meaning about 20k each. 2. The Formation was at lvl 6 or 8 and gave 60% or 80% dmg up for Subutai. 3. I couldn't lay much of a scratch. Even with Cnut at 50% HP and his atk down skill on Subutai, he barely scratched the enemy and way essentially wiped out. It seemed that only my Subutai with Timur's special unit could deal dmg with at least two digits, but alas, I didn't stop auto-play early enough. Too bad ET's power scaling system doesn't account for Formation and Talent properly. Then again, even though I can take some 200k power enemies across 12 gens, it doesn't mean that I should challenge players whose gens each possess 20k or more power.
Also, I didn't capture images, but there are "players" with talents, or nearly no talented gens. These gens have about 100 or less points for the units their gens use. I don't believe that having nearly lvl 20 troops and some, or a lot of talent upgrades should lead to a 200k power ranking (nor should they have hit back as hard as they did). Many of my gens have over 100, many approaching 200 points in their specialised troop type. I have about lvl 14 or 15 troops across the board. Yet my power is just over 200k and I don't feel like I can hit as hard as these "players". |
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Post by jonblend on Feb 8, 2024 21:42:47 GMT
Had that same guy in my list yesterday but decided to retreat after looking at the units and equipment. Should be beatable with Vlad in manual mode but ... ain't nobody got time for that.
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Post by nexttimebro on Feb 8, 2024 22:34:08 GMT
It seemed that only my Subutai with Timur's special unit could deal dmg with at least two digits, but alas, I didn't stop auto-play early enough. Too bad ET's power scaling system doesn't account for Formation and Talent properly. Then again, even though I can take some 200k power enemies across 12 gens, it doesn't mean that I should challenge players whose gens each possess 20k or more power.
Also, I didn't capture images, but there are "players" with talents, or nearly no talented gens. These gens have about 100 or less points for the units their gens use. I don't believe that having nearly lvl 20 troops and some, or a lot of talent upgrades should lead to a 200k power ranking (nor should they have hit back as hard as they did). Many of my gens have over 100, many approaching 200 points in their specialised troop type. I have about lvl 14 or 15 troops across the board. Yet my power is just over 200k and I don't feel like I can hit as hard as these "players". You attacked strong range general with cannon as a gear and you are wonder that it’s counterattack is stronger than yours, really? Last 3-4 versions you should attack such generals only with a proper gear (Hussite Wagon in this case). Any medium range general in a territory mode (with proper wonders) will have stronger counterattack than your attack. It’s just a current mechanic. Times when you can complete the whole mission with a one war gear are over. Formations and the talent system force you equip a proper war gear before almost Avery attack and use proper unit types too. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 9, 2024 3:57:21 GMT
Then, at this rate, wouldn't one need 5-10 of every gear to compete just because some people decided to play rough?
I will concede that letting the AI decide things and not going in prepared are personal issues.
Yet, there are also other things at play: a pure melee inf formation was decimated. The sworn enemy was destroyed even with an atk down effect. Subutai needed to possess only IBC and have the right set-up to deal something. At near-death with only IBC, he dealt more dmg than when he had a full legion of the Tang charge cav, Mongolian Raider, and IBC.
Formation only working when you have a proper legion.
It's not entirely over when players and bots quit updates ago. I can still take some enemies above 120k up to 200k with the same war gear. I'd rather farm weaker enemies and be lazy about it, but the algorthim shift seemed to send many around 200k and one 300k or more my way.
Also, ET seemed to have given up on accounting for power, not that we understood it well enough anyways.
A ranged gen with a full legion of ranged units and that specific formation is many levels more powerful than without the formation. Yet, this player is measured to be a walk in the park that one would usually clear with auto-battle, even though it approaches the 1 gen : 20k power ratio to avoid such foes.
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Post by jonblend on Feb 9, 2024 11:02:37 GMT
I think we should optimize daily farming so it takes the least amount of time and brainpower.
Alas, finding matches that can be won on auto is the skill that needs to be honed.
It consists of both looking at the score (up to 150k, preferably below 100k) and at the battlefield (map choice, wonders, towers, how many generals, iap generals, unit combination). This sounds like much but it only takes a second to get a first impression. If you have the suspicion of walking into a trap, then check the troop levels, equipment and gems. And remember that you can always leave without it being counted as a loss before hitting the sword button and choosing buffs.
My theory is that territory score is based on the same system that is used to sort our generals in the castle. It heavily favors troop number and stat points in general which is why usually infantry legions are on top and - as can be seen in your screenshot with a full Hengdao team - they can easily push the score above 300k.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 11, 2024 13:16:01 GMT
Almost everyone does not have a formation equipped.  Almost everyone has a formation equipped.  Forgot where I usually post my complaints about Territory, but if you still haven't noticed, formations do not change your score. For those who glance at power alone, beware that some players may have updated their defences to include formations which can allow them to cripple or one-shot attackers. Also, thanks to the thread about not being able to access Formation and Nightmare, we know that formations are endgame / post-endgame content. The balance is even greater now. |
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