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Post by Marshal Forwards on Feb 15, 2024 11:35:17 GMT
Has anyone completed this campaign on hard mode? I’ve tried it a couple of times. Always close but not finished. The southern, western and eastern castle is no problem. But the big northern city full of target units around Shibate Katsuie always takes too long. I’ve upgraded Masamune’s and Motinari’s gold equipment to maximize their damage but I’m still not fast enough. After all I only manage to kil 3 of the target units and I’m far from conquering the city. Both are rank 4 level 30. Southern group: Masanori and Kiyomasa to defeat Kazumasu and hold the southern castle. Once this is achieved the way up north is too long to help. I’ve tried it with only one of them, but ended alone without allies and couldn’t recapture the castle. Northern group: Date Masamune, Mori Motinari and Hideyoshi One time I captured the city but didn’t kill all target units   |
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Post by Marshal Forwards on Feb 15, 2024 11:51:56 GMT
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Feb 15, 2024 12:39:35 GMT
I struggled with this one as well for a while. Based on how I beat it eventually: it's a mistake to send Masanori and Kiyomasa to defend the south. Each of them has a general they want to fight, that's in the front rank of the attack in the north. They'll kill those guys with the first attack, and that makes a huge difference. I additionally used Date and Keiji in the north, but I guess Mori is probably up to the task. This way the north isn't too hard, the tricky bit is to manage the south with a single general. I used Hideyoshi there. Importantly, you don't have to defeat Kazumasu. At some point he withdraws, I'm not sure what the trigger is for that but it seems to happen reliably. But because of that, you don't actually have to hold the city. It's OK if you lose it and then capture back. Just keep Hideyoshi alive and kill Kazumasu's supporting units.
Edit: your guys have way more upgrades than mine did, you should definitely be able to clear this one with the right strategy.
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Post by Marshal Forwards on Feb 15, 2024 15:15:49 GMT
Thanks. That did the trick. And this time I attacked the the big fortress right after the western castle.  |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 15, 2024 15:43:07 GMT
I think the trigger for the two southern commanders is to beat them until about 20% of their total HP. Kazumasu will withdraw the Takigawa forces and Nobutaka will commit seppuku.
I do think the suggested path of attacking Katsuie's main castle followed by the northern central castle is more effective.
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Feb 15, 2024 17:23:43 GMT
I do think the suggested path of attacking Katsuie's main castle followed by the northern central castle is more effective. I don't think it's really important. I went the other way and took the central city while waiting for allied forces to catch up. The north is easy either way as long as you can hold the south with Hideyoshi. |
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Post by Marshal Forwards on Feb 16, 2024 8:53:01 GMT
I do think the suggested path of attacking Katsuie's main castle followed by the northern central castle is more effective. I don't think it's really important. I went the other way and took the central city while waiting for allied forces to catch up. The north is easy either way as long as you can hold the south with Hideyoshi. I guess both ways are possible since I had managed to make Kutsuie commit suicide in both ways. The failure back then was I lost the southern castle or target units were left. Crucial is rather to kill as many target units before they can gather in the northern fortress. You need to be able to attack an empty hex of the city asap to crush the fortification and get access for the allies to Katsuie. Once you have repelled the enemiy attack in the west the enemy generals either flee to north or to the east. Anyway, they must be hunted down |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 16, 2024 9:55:28 GMT
The enemy flees the NW region as soon as my troops show up, so it's a race against time to catch them in the field in my game.
Katsuie has the same condition as Kazumasu and Nobutaka: deplete their HP until a low percentage. Might be 20%, 15% or even 10%.
At least Oichi-hime isn't in the map considering her historical fate.
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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 16, 2024 20:44:01 GMT
The enemy flees the NW region as soon as my troops show up, so it's a race against time to catch them in the field in my game. Katsuie has the same condition as Kazumasu and Nobutaka: deplete their HP until a low percentage. Might be 20%, 15% or even 10%. At least Oichi-hime isn't in the map considering her historical fate. Yeah, a lot of these people had a tragic life, haven't they? Both of Oichi's husbands died while resisting a unifier of Japan and she died with her second husband. Thankfully ET didn't let us kill her, but we did kill a lot of people and saw plenty die by seppuku as well. Living in a warlord period is never a fun time.  |
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Post by kanue on Feb 19, 2024 6:22:55 GMT
I do think the suggested path of attacking Katsuie's main castle followed by the northern central castle is more effective. I don't think it's really important. I went the other way and took the central city while waiting for allied forces to catch up. The north is easy either way as long as you can hold the south with Hideyoshi. I find the central castle has a bit of an advantage since you can spawn better units from there. |
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