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Post by ɪʟʟʏᴀꜱᴠɪᴇʟ ᴠᴏɴ ᴇɪɴᴢʙᴇʀɴ on May 28, 2024 2:31:46 GMT
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Post by Plaek Phibunsongkram on May 28, 2024 19:45:40 GMT
Give him raider and he'll be on par with higuchi, maybe slightly better as he can self-heal AND heal others around him (not sure about crossfire though...)
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Post by stoic on May 30, 2024 4:12:43 GMT
If someone bought Koenig already ler us know how efficient his unique skill is...
Because, I think, it is one of those skills that look great on paper yet not as illustrious in real fight circumstances. That's because Koenig is an Infantry general and there are too many enemies with long-range attacks. Besides, his skill is an inferior version of this new skill "fighting spirit", because flat numbers are almost always inferior to % based skills, especially in the endgame.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 30, 2024 4:54:54 GMT
If someone bought Koenig already ler us know how efficient his unique skill is... Because, I think, it is one of those skills that look great on paper yet not as illustrious in real fight circumstances. That's because Koenig is an Infantry general and there are too many enemies with long-range attacks. Besides, his skill is an inferior version of this new skill "fighting spirit", because flat numbers are almost always inferior to % based skills, especially in the endgame. Fighting Spirit is literally his first skill... I agree that it's not good for an infantry general like Koenig though. Would be more suitable for a tank/artillery general that's more on a supportive duty... like Katukov? |
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Post by stoic on May 30, 2024 8:33:42 GMT
If someone bought Koenig already ler us know how efficient his unique skill is... Because, I think, it is one of those skills that look great on paper yet not as illustrious in real fight circumstances. That's because Koenig is an Infantry general and there are too many enemies with long-range attacks. Besides, his skill is an inferior version of this new skill "fighting spirit", because flat numbers are almost always inferior to % based skills, especially in the endgame. Fighting Spirit is literally his first skill... I agree that it's not good for an infantry general like Koenig though. Would be more suitable for a tank/artillery general that's more on a supportive duty... like Katukov? Is it limited to one time per turn or not? If not it is an op skill for one of our Admirals... |
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Post by journeykeen on May 30, 2024 13:42:26 GMT
Stoic is probably correct: this is best used on a non damage-dealing naval ship for tough navy missions, perhaps Norton, Darlan, or even Donitz if you have Yamaguchi+Raeder.
On infantry this is worthless, which is why I gave Koenig a 3 star. Infantry need to be able to flank and destroy undefended cities, which requires Raider+Explosives. Koenig can only get one.
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Post by stoic on May 30, 2024 14:18:42 GMT
Stoic is probably correct: this is best used on a non damage-dealing naval ship for tough navy missions, perhaps Norton, Darlan, or even Donitz if you have Yamaguchi+Raeder. On infantry this is worthless, which is why I gave Koenig a 3 star. Infantry need to be able to flank and destroy undefended cities, which requires Raider+Explosives. Koenig can only get one. To add an insult to injury he also has crossfire. I understand the logic behind this decision of developers, but it is such a lame combination of skills for an Infantry general. It simply won't work. They should have tested it beforehand. |
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Post by journeykeen on May 30, 2024 14:38:56 GMT
Stoic is probably correct: this is best used on a non damage-dealing naval ship for tough navy missions, perhaps Norton, Darlan, or even Donitz if you have Yamaguchi+Raeder. On infantry this is worthless, which is why I gave Koenig a 3 star. Infantry need to be able to flank and destroy undefended cities, which requires Raider+Explosives. Koenig can only get one. To add an insult to injury he also has crossfire. I understand the logic behind this decision of developers, but it is such a lame combination of skills for an Infantry general. It simply won't work. They should have tested it beforehand. Even if this combination were on a tank general, this still leads to the mentality of “defensive generals” that a lot of people think is useful. Because the AI is utterly incompetent at capturing cities (so we can defend from the entire USSR with a few armored cars on Minsk, Kiev, and Smolensk in ‘43 challenge), but can do insane damage to their defenders, “defensive generals” are simply useless. This is even more so when we consider the opportunity cost of lost medals or in-game units to produce such a general. |
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Post by stoic on May 30, 2024 17:19:02 GMT
To add an insult to injury he also has crossfire. I understand the logic behind this decision of developers, but it is such a lame combination of skills for an Infantry general. It simply won't work. They should have tested it beforehand. Even if this combination were on a tank general, this still leads to the mentality of “defensive generals” that a lot of people think is useful. Because the AI is utterly incompetent at capturing cities (so we can defend from the entire USSR with a few armored cars on Minsk, Kiev, and Smolensk in ‘43 challenge), but can do insane damage to their defenders, “defensive generals” are simply useless. This is even more so when we consider the opportunity cost of lost medals or in-game units to produce such a general. At least such general had some chances in other modes of the game such as hard Defence missions or Blitzkrieg campaign, but "defensive" Infantry general is a bad idea indeed. I can hardly imagine any suitable mission for him outside daily Invasions  |
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Post by resiphius on May 31, 2024 12:01:30 GMT
Even if this combination were on a tank general, this still leads to the mentality of “defensive generals” that a lot of people think is useful. Because the AI is utterly incompetent at capturing cities (so we can defend from the entire USSR with a few armored cars on Minsk, Kiev, and Smolensk in ‘43 challenge), but can do insane damage to their defenders, “defensive generals” are simply useless. This is even more so when we consider the opportunity cost of lost medals or in-game units to produce such a general. At least such general had some chances in other modes of the game such as hard Defence missions or Blitzkrieg campaign, but "defensive" Infantry general is a bad idea indeed. I can hardly imagine any suitable mission for him outside daily Invasions I think Fighting Spirit is for Malinovsky, because his unique skill lures enemies to hit him, facilitating activation of this skill. As for Koenig, imo he is probably for commanding medic (before getting Malinovsky or when Malinovsky was commanding RPG rocketeer). |
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Post by stoic on May 31, 2024 14:01:05 GMT
At least such general had some chances in other modes of the game such as hard Defence missions or Blitzkrieg campaign, but "defensive" Infantry general is a bad idea indeed. I can hardly imagine any suitable mission for him outside daily Invasions I think Fighting Spirit is for Malinovsky, because his unique skill lures enemies to hit him, facilitating activation of this skill. As for Koenig, imo he is probably for commanding medic (before getting Malinovsky or when Malinovsky was commanding RPG rocketeer). Unfortunately, there are too many candidates for commanding medics  And quite often medics are fine as they are without being commanded at all... |
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Post by jonblend on Jun 4, 2024 20:35:23 GMT
Fighting Spirit is literally his first skill... I agree that it's not good for an infantry general like Koenig though. Would be more suitable for a tank/artillery general that's more on a supportive duty... like Katukov? Is it limited to one time per turn or not? If not it is an op skill for one of our Admirals... Tested and it doesn't seem so. Koenig was hit twice, countered twice and healed twice during the enemy turn. |
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And quite often medics are fine as they are without being commanded at all...
