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Post by Plaek Phibunsongkram on Jun 23, 2024 4:56:37 GMT
Having played EW6 1914, I am quite skeptical of inspiration as a skill. Is it really all that good in WC4? My guderian has maxed PF and rumour and performs well, but will he perform even better if I replace PF with inspiration?
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Post by cpanthony05 on Jun 23, 2024 7:11:03 GMT
Definitely, it is one of the most versatile skills (unlike explosives for example which only works against cities/forts).
Just at level 1 it greatly increases your performance, not even speaking about level 5.
Given you have PF and rumour, I'd say try to swap the rumor with inspiration once you are satisfied with how well guderian survives on his own.
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Post by stoic on Jun 23, 2024 10:03:03 GMT
If a tank general has Inspiration as his skill - then over 90% of the time he will fight with increased moral with all corresponding bonuses (attack+15% damage). So, yes, for a tank general it is a top tier skill. If we are talking about units that attack only once per turn - Artillery (all types except Stuka), Infantry and Ships then Inferior Victory is a more reliable damage bonus, I think. The problem is that we cannot control the increase of the moral amidst of the fight. And quite likely Inspiration won't trigger leaving our units empty-handed. So, the often a unit attacks the higher is the value of Inspiration. Otherwise it is a gamble: you may gain more if it is active or lose everything if it is not.
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Post by stoic on Jun 23, 2024 12:54:39 GMT
But, of course, we need a lot of time before Inferior Victory is unlocked. I even bet with myself: if I can unlock Inferior Victory before Cold war conquests are released, I can hire Brooke, if not - my self-imposed restrictions remain intact (no generals over 2000 medals). I wonder if I can beat myself  |
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Post by nimrael on Jun 23, 2024 19:30:23 GMT
But, of course, we need a lot of time before Inferior Victory is unlocked. I even bet with myself: if I can unlock Inferior Victory before Cold war conquests are released, I can hire Brooke, if not - my self-imposed restrictions remain intact (no generals over 2000 medals). I wonder if I can beat myself At which level are you? The time is probably around one month left, before the next Update. |
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Post by Colonia on Jun 23, 2024 21:36:23 GMT
But, of course, we need a lot of time before Inferior Victory is unlocked. I even bet with myself: if I can unlock Inferior Victory before Cold war conquests are released, I can hire Brooke, if not - my self-imposed restrictions remain intact (no generals over 2000 medals). I wonder if I can beat myself It's not that challenging. Just time intensive to grind through all the challenge conquests. For 1943' all the Allies on the Americas are very easy if you have a lvl 1 Enterprise. It can open up the Spain front and then we deploy Pershing w/ Guderian there. If we put Chennault on the Enterprise he can disable Kluge who is the Nr. 1 priority. Gobble up the independent states in South America for extra income. |
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Post by stoic on Jun 24, 2024 3:06:41 GMT
But, of course, we need a lot of time before Inferior Victory is unlocked. I even bet with myself: if I can unlock Inferior Victory before Cold war conquests are released, I can hire Brooke, if not - my self-imposed restrictions remain intact (no generals over 2000 medals). I wonder if I can beat myself At which level are you? The time is probably around one month left, before the next Update. I have reasons to look with optimism to the future  142 points so far. |
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Post by stoic on Jun 24, 2024 3:14:34 GMT
But, of course, we need a lot of time before Inferior Victory is unlocked. I even bet with myself: if I can unlock Inferior Victory before Cold war conquests are released, I can hire Brooke, if not - my self-imposed restrictions remain intact (no generals over 2000 medals). I wonder if I can beat myself It's not that challenging. Just time intensive to grind through all the challenge conquests. For 1943' all the Allies on the Americas are very easy if you have a lvl 1 Enterprise. It can open up the Spain front and then we deploy Pershing w/ Guderian there. If we put Chennault on the Enterprise he can disable Kluge who is the Nr. 1 priority. Gobble up the independent states in South America for extra income. That is exactly why I want to reward myself Darn it is so time-consuming. Besides, I still haven't unlocked Enterprise and it definitely doesn't help me. Yet, the chances are fairly high that I'll manage to do it before the time runs out... |
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Post by stoic on Jun 24, 2024 3:17:22 GMT
Btw, yet another bright side of Inspiration. It is possible easily to overcome the consequences of negative events.  |
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Post by jonblend on Jun 24, 2024 20:42:46 GMT
If a tank general has Inspiration as his skill - then over 90% of the time he will fight with increased moral with all corresponding bonuses (attack+15% damage). So, yes, for a tank general it is a top tier skill. If we are talking about units that attack only once per turn - Artillery (all types except Stuka), Infantry and Ships then Inferior Victory is a more reliable damage bonus, I think. The problem is that we cannot control the increase of the moral amidst of the fight. And quite likely Inspiration won't trigger leaving our units empty-handed. So, the often a unit attacks the higher is the value of Inspiration. Otherwise it is a gamble: you may gain more if it is active or lose everything if it is not. The P-40 can activate high morale (and thus Inspiration) on nearby unit(s) starting at lv5. Sounds like non tank units have a possibility to utilize the skill. But mine is only lv4 so I'll have to wait a few more weeks/months to see whether this is a useful combination. |
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Post by journeykeen on Jun 24, 2024 23:14:54 GMT
I have every conquest point and thus inferior victory if you really want to see its effects.
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Post by stoic on Jun 25, 2024 3:23:32 GMT
I have every conquest point and thus inferior victory if you really want to see its effects. It is actually interesting to compare Inspiration and IV. All in all, effects seem to be equal to me (provided Inspiration is active), but I was always curious about the 25% attack increase (Inspiration) and how does it transform into damage. Let's take Heavy Gustav, for example. Its basic attack is high, isn't it better then to choose Inspiration instead of IV because the increase of attack does a better job than just additional 5% damage of IV? |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 25, 2024 11:28:59 GMT
I have every conquest point and thus inferior victory if you really want to see its effects. It is actually interesting to compare Inspiration and IV. All in all, effects seem to be equal to me (provided Inspiration is active), but I was always curious about the 25% attack increase (Inspiration) and how does it transform into damage. Let's take Heavy Gustav, for example. Its basic attack is high, isn't it better then to choose Inspiration instead of IV because the increase of attack does a better job than just additional 5% damage of IV? Read the damage formula. High morale Inspiration > normal morale IV in every scenario. IV only beats Inspiration when attack is below 10 (assuming 6 star general and not including tech) for tank, which is impossible. On other units it's another story. Without morale boost from events and kills, Inspiration can only keep morale high for around 50% of the time. You need 320+ attack for Inspiration to beat IV on artillery if morale is high half of the time, 160+ if it's a crit supported by lvl 5 ribbon. That being said, IV's multiplicative nature gives Inspiration an edge against PF unless you're really risk averse. It's as good as PF with medals on average, on low level non-Gustav, with crit medal, but without ribbon. |
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