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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 17, 2024 13:21:08 GMT
I just need to hear who and what you used.
Troops nearly or already at lvl 15 can't deplete the enemy troops in time. I used Motonari, Masamune, and Musashi, but they couldn't grind down all the enemies or move to physically block the enemy reinforcements in time.
I could use food, but I still need to beat Hideyoshi and Kiyomasa which needs time.
It's fairly obvious that we should take the two cities to spawn in Date and Hojo allies. Then, abandon the cities to attack the main castle.
Unless there's something else, I can't do much.
This is for Hard, by the way, but the plan is still the same for Normal.
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Post by Dannes on Aug 17, 2024 14:47:14 GMT
Got lucky when I managed to get Date to nuke the bottom castle and Ieyasu in his old man form to nuke the top castle, by then, I managed to get all units in fast which allowed me to push and get the momentum
Musashi is amazing here as well as motonari
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Post by stoic on Aug 28, 2024 15:48:19 GMT
Where is it possible to get the skin of old Akechi Mitsuhide (Nankobo Tenkai)?
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Post by SolidLight on Aug 28, 2024 16:11:52 GMT
Where is it possible to get the skin of old Akechi Mitsuhide (Nankobo Tenkai)? By beating this. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 28, 2024 16:34:40 GMT
Where is it possible to get the skin of old Akechi Mitsuhide (Nankobo Tenkai)? By beating this. To add on: It's an Achievement for clearing this mission on Hard. You'll need three strong DPS gens. If you really want to up your odds, ~2,000 Ban-kin and enough upgrades should be enough for the monk to finally perform. |
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Post by SolidLight on Aug 28, 2024 17:16:40 GMT
To add on: It's an Achievement for clearing this mission on Hard. You'll need three strong DPS gens. If you really want to up your odds, ~2,000 Ban-kin and enough upgrades should be enough for the monk to finally perform. Yeah don’t do that. I mean, Old bald Mitsuhide won’t even be strong even if you did that since he’s Lv. 1 with mediocre gear here. And the Warrior Monk Teppo is 100% worthless anywhere else and you can’t effectively farm fuses unless you have Ginchiyo. You certainly need huge firepower in order to beat this level though. Hideyoshi should be wailed on while his active is down, but even then he’s really, really tough. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 29, 2024 5:53:33 GMT
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 31, 2024 16:09:12 GMT
I still don't understand how I'm unable to inflict enough damage in time.
My Mori Motonari even dealt 71 dmg against Hideyoshi for some reason.
Is the plan for everyone to attack into the middle, ignore the triggers and attack Hideyoshi, or to take the centre, attack the south, north, and Hideyoshi?
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Post by SolidLight on Aug 31, 2024 16:18:44 GMT
I still don't understand how I'm unable to inflict enough damage in time. My Mori Motonari even dealt 71 dmg against Hideyoshi for some reason. Is the plan for everyone to attack into the middle, ignore the triggers and attack Hideyoshi, or to take the centre, attack the south, north, and Hideyoshi? Are you throwing every active you have at him while his own active is down? He has a huge damage reduction buff while his is on (and it’s on 60% of the time) unless you kill all his guards and that’s not easy either. Ujiyasu on Destroyer of Provinces as stoic points out isn’t bad here either. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 31, 2024 16:23:33 GMT
I still don't understand how I'm unable to inflict enough damage in time. My Mori Motonari even dealt 71 dmg against Hideyoshi for some reason. Is the plan for everyone to attack into the middle, ignore the triggers and attack Hideyoshi, or to take the centre, attack the south, north, and Hideyoshi? Are you throwing every active you have at him while his own active is down? He has a huge damage reduction buff while his is on (and it’s on 60% of the time) unless you kill all his guards and that’s not easy either. Ujiyasu on Destroyer of Provinces as stoic points out isn’t bad here either. My DoP is lvl 10 and I only took down Hideyoshi by ignoring the reinforcement targets and Kiyomasa. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 31, 2024 16:58:47 GMT
Are you throwing every active you have at him while his own active is down? He has a huge damage reduction buff while his is on (and it’s on 60% of the time) unless you kill all his guards and that’s not easy either. Ujiyasu on Destroyer of Provinces as stoic points out isn’t bad here either. My DoP is lvl 10 and I only took down Hideyoshi by ignoring the reinforcement targets and Kiyomasa. I think you should ignore reinforcement targets for the time being. Their movements are preprogrammed and they are moving towards the center. Ironically they mostly ignored my Hojo who bombarded the city. Just let them do so because they will meet your own reinforcements there. And the fate of these two castles with white circles is of no importance after your reinforcements arive on the battlefield, so there's no point in defending them. Your allies (especially Honda) inflict serious damage but they are slow and won't help you much killing Hideyoshi. After Hideyoshi is dead there is a moral drop and what is no less important Mitsunari is moving close to the city you occupied after killing Hideyoshi. Only after that you may worry about reinforcement targets who are either dead or severely wounded at that point. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 31, 2024 20:03:39 GMT
Completely ignored the reinforcements that were not in front of me. Landed critical attacks at a few opportune times and, luckily, my allies managed to finish off Masayuki.
All for a skin that still didin't allow us to turn the NPC Tenkai into player Tenkai.
Especially hard because Masamune doesn't have his unique weapon, and we have only those few troops.
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Post by stoic on Sept 1, 2024 3:34:27 GMT
I think there are 3 important stages if we are using DoP. 1. To destroy the center. It is very important because we reduce our communication lines and freely move our generals to any targets. It is possible to destroy it at turn 3. It isn't important who will occupy the castle - you or your allies.   2. After taking two branch castles on both sides it is very important to ignore enemy reinforcements and to occupy safe positions around Hideyoshi's main castle. Actually our 3 generals are not in a real danger because AI has its own objectives. It is necessary though not to block the way and to let them go. Thus the best positions are not in the front but on both sides of the castle.  3. And only after Hideyoshi is dead and the castle is taken it's time to worry about remaining targets.   |
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Post by stoic on Sept 1, 2024 3:45:28 GMT
Completely ignored the reinforcements that were not in front of me. Landed critical attacks at a few opportune times and, luckily, my allies managed to finish off Masayuki. All for a skin that still didin't allow us to turn the NPC Tenkai into player Tenkai. Especially hard because Masamune doesn't have his unique weapon, and we have only those few troops. I really like his new active skill and use him now more often than Akechi Mitsuhide. |
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Post by SolidLight on Sept 1, 2024 4:33:32 GMT
Completely ignored the reinforcements that were not in front of me. Landed critical attacks at a few opportune times and, luckily, my allies managed to finish off Masayuki. All for a skin that still didin't allow us to turn the NPC Tenkai into player Tenkai. Especially hard because Masamune doesn't have his unique weapon, and we have only those few troops. I really like his new active skill and use him now more often than Akechi Mitsuhide. It’s better in campaign/tenkabito for most purposes, but I find regular Mitsuhide generally better for conquest since it’s much easier to snipe out garrisons with Powerful Assault. And it usually sets him at high morale which makes him way stronger for the next two turns or so. |
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