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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 4, 2016 12:49:51 GMT
And China still is trying to add Korea to its history. It never was a part of China(unlike Outer Mongolia), but it was one of the dependant states of China.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jul 4, 2016 13:38:07 GMT
And China still is trying to add Korea to its history. It never was a part of China(unlike Outer Mongolia), but it was one of the dependant states of China. Yes, China never really directly controlled Korea, it was a tributary state of the Chinese, Vietnam was also another Chinese tributary state.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 4, 2016 13:52:33 GMT
It never was a part of China(unlike Outer Mongolia), but it was one of the dependant states of China. Yes, China never really directly controlled Korea, it was a tributary state of the Chinese, Vietnam was also another Chinese tributary state. Well... What if China claims every acre of land that the Yuan Dynasty(aka Mongolian Empire) owned belongs to China?
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jul 4, 2016 13:59:38 GMT
Yes, China never really directly controlled Korea, it was a tributary state of the Chinese, Vietnam was also another Chinese tributary state. Well... What if China claims every acre of land that the Yuan Dynasty(aka Mongolian Empire) owned belongs to China? well Central Asia would be gone completely, as well as Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Bangladesh and eastern India Added to that all of Siberia and Alaska will be taken by China as well. At least Pakistan is safe!
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 4, 2016 14:05:56 GMT
Well... What if China claims every acre of land that the Yuan Dynasty(aka Mongolian Empire) owned belongs to China? well Central Asia would be gone completely, as well as Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Bangladesh and eastern India Added to that all of Siberia and Alaska will be taken by China as well. At least Pakistan is safe! And Hungary, Ukraine, Caucasus, Iran, part of European Russia, Afghanistan, AND........... PAKISTAN. Sorry about that Napoleon Bonaparte, Mongolian Empire is just that big.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jul 4, 2016 14:21:11 GMT
well Central Asia would be gone completely, as well as Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Bangladesh and eastern India Added to that all of Siberia and Alaska will be taken by China as well. At least Pakistan is safe! And Hungary, Ukraine, Caucasus, Iran, part of European Russia, Afghanistan, AND........... PAKISTAN. Sorry about that Napoleon Bonaparte, Mongolian Empire is just that big. you'll never have Karachi!!!! Wait! Even Alexander came for Karachi....
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jul 4, 2016 14:57:44 GMT
well Central Asia would be gone completely, as well as Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Bangladesh and eastern India Added to that all of Siberia and Alaska will be taken by China as well. At least Pakistan is safe! And Hungary, Ukraine, Caucasus, Iran, part of European Russia, Afghanistan, AND........... PAKISTAN. Sorry about that Napoleon Bonaparte , Mongolian Empire is just that big. At least the USA is safe!
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jul 4, 2016 18:09:53 GMT
And Hungary, Ukraine, Caucasus, Iran, part of European Russia, Afghanistan, AND........... PAKISTAN. Sorry about that Napoleon Bonaparte , Mongolian Empire is just that big. At least the USA is safe! they have Alaska! Natural resources are already in their hands! Its only a matter of time before they blitz!! (propaganda).
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jul 4, 2016 18:32:41 GMT
At least the USA is safe! they have Alaska! Natural resources are already in their hands! Its only a matter of time before they blitz!! (propaganda). ...The Mongols never took Alaska, otherwise they would've swept over the entire New World in a matter of a few years.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jul 4, 2016 18:35:34 GMT
they have Alaska! Natural resources are already in their hands! Its only a matter of time before they blitz!! (propaganda). ...The Mongols never took Alaska, otherwise they would've swept over the entire New World in a matter of a few years. oh, I actually googled and I got an image with Alaska being Mongol so I thought that.
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 4, 2016 18:37:16 GMT
well Central Asia would be gone completely, as well as Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Bangladesh and eastern India Added to that all of Siberia and Alaska will be taken by China as well. At least Pakistan is safe! And Hungary, Ukraine, Caucasus, Iran, part of European Russia, Afghanistan, AND........... PAKISTAN. Sorry about that Napoleon Bonaparte, Mongolian Empire is just that big. They might have made a huge empire, but they didn't built it to last. A couple of generations after the uber-mega Kahn croaks, the empire crumbles soonly thereafter. Granted, that old Kahn was pretty amazing with his rapid conquests. If it weren't for the remnants of the Roman army that were still out there in the field, the Mongols would have probably reached the Atlantic Ocean.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jul 4, 2016 18:38:05 GMT
...The Mongols never took Alaska, otherwise they would've swept over the entire New World in a matter of a few years. oh, I actually googled and I got an image with Alaska being Mongol so I thought that. Ah, google imaging of historic empires aren't always good, bc sometimes people will exaggerate the boundaries or something. They took: China Central Asia Korea Siberia Russia Persia The Middle East Sections of South Asia Hungary Anatolia And I'm sure other regions, but the Mongol Empire was so large, i probably missed some places.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jul 4, 2016 18:39:36 GMT
oh, I actually googled and I got an image with Alaska being Mongol so I thought that. Ah, google imaging of historic empires aren't always good, bc sometimes people will exaggerate the boundaries or something. They took: China Central Asia Korea Siberia Russia Persia The Middle East Sections of South Asia Hungary Anatolia And I'm sure other regions, but the Mongol Empire was so large, i probably missed some places. manstein said they even had Ukraine and Hungary? Can't confirm that....
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 4, 2016 18:43:16 GMT
Ah, google imaging of historic empires aren't always good, bc sometimes people will exaggerate the boundaries or something. They took: China Central Asia Korea Siberia Russia Persia The Middle East Sections of South Asia Hungary Anatolia And I'm sure other regions, but the Mongol Empire was so large, i probably missed some places. manstein said they even had Ukraine and Hungary? Can't confirm that.... Hungary, definitely. It was where the Mongolian army didn't go further west from there.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jul 4, 2016 18:44:47 GMT
Ah, google imaging of historic empires aren't always good, bc sometimes people will exaggerate the boundaries or something. They took: China Central Asia Korea Siberia Russia Persia The Middle East Sections of South Asia Hungary Anatolia And I'm sure other regions, but the Mongol Empire was so large, i probably missed some places. manstein said they even had Ukraine and Hungary? Can't confirm that.... At this time period that the Mongols were in, the Kievan Rus (The predecessor to what is now Russia) contained areas like the Ukraine, Belarus and most of central Russia. Thus, I counted Ukraine as part of Russia for this specific time period. They did take Hungary, and would have galloped on to take Italy, France, Switzerland and Iberia if not for those pesky Alpine mountains. Because the Mongols were based virtually entirely on cavalry, which is part of the reason why they were so successful and swift, they would not be able to get across the Alps and into Italy. Plus, by the time Hungary was taken and Austria was soon to follow, the Mongols were going through some internal strife, which certainly doesn't help conquest.
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