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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Apr 27, 2016 5:48:39 GMT
Here we need to consolidate all our ideas on how to win Victoria/Lan from France. Assume top-of-the-line Generals (Berthier too) and Tavern and Medkit allowed
Problems: Russia takes too long to reach and to occupy, Spain has a way of dragging on to phase 35 without a General around.
Solved problems: Marmont or Desaix should take Italy, Napoleon is better used in Austria
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Post by Jean Lannes on Apr 27, 2016 6:15:35 GMT
Ok here's a few things that have to happen for this to be successful:
A lot of s/l (all of your generals need to have assault art everytime they attack). Items (medkit, alcohol, extra damage, movement, snare drum, etc), Poland can't fall quickly, Portugal must fall quickly. Sweden must get rekt by Denmark in Norway, Ottomans not failing quickly, fast defeat of Nelson and the royal navy, not many forts in Russia. I think 30 (or less) turns are possible with France but the amount of luck and skill you'll need is unimaginable
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Post by Joachim Murat on Apr 27, 2016 10:38:33 GMT
I just try my own way and it was completely disastrous.
Picard was right, in order to push Austrian and back up Poland u need Napoleon there. Meantime, keep push your Cavalry general to Moscow through Clujnapocca. Occupies key cities only (big), let troops do the rest.
I agree with Picard abt using travern for Portugal. I wont use it if 4 general is allowed but u know.. and we need to FAST2FURIOUS.
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Post by Joachim Murat on Apr 27, 2016 10:45:01 GMT
Ok here's a few things that have to happen for this to be successful: A lot of s/l (all of your generals need to have assault art everytime they attack). Items (medkit, alcohol, extra damage, movement, snare drum, etc), Poland can't fall quickly, Portugal must fall quickly. Sweden must get rekt by Denmark in Norway, Ottomans not failing quickly, fast defeat of Nelson and the royal navy, not many forts in Russia. I think 30 (or less) turns are possible with France but the amount of luck and skill you'll need is unimaginable On my first try, Portugal so damn tough. Poland was fallen and Dobeln RIP. When i push Russian from Clujnapocca, they push me through Warsaw. Note that Marmont die when he first arrive on Portugal Rofl. Nelson 1/4 hp left by turkish cannon. And in this turn around 19-22, Napoleon still on Italy.......this is why Picard was right. Better send Marmont there along with some cheap troops. So around turn 28 i saw the map and still bleed so much with RED, i pissed then rage quit haha. Pls i need some guidance. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Apr 27, 2016 13:07:10 GMT
Stealing some border cities from Spain can help against Portugal (Madrid too if possible).
Poland and Denmark must support for invading Russia and Sweden.
That's what I can think (of now).
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Apr 27, 2016 16:18:32 GMT
New idea: put Davout or Berthier (pref. Davout), fully developed, on the Heavy Cav and rush straight East. Don't stop until you reach Kiev. S/L to help him take it and Moscow
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Apr 27, 2016 19:04:26 GMT
I think Bertheir with 2 saddles can get to russia by turn 8 or less if he does not engage but he will be deep in enemy territory you will need medkits for him and a snare drum of which i currenly own 3.I think Mormont is best used fighting naples then use him to help retake any ottoman citys that have been captured by the russians.Desiax i think would be best used taking over the HRE along with Napolean and Messena.Jourdan should wait at the coast ready to invade GB when the time is right i just dont really know when he should cross.I think the most challenging country to attack is GB i just dont know what to do with it.Denmark can hold its own i think for like 20 turns once you take over prussia you can recruit york and send him to Sweden and help defeat the swedes.Russia i think will be easy it is just to damn big and the polish i dont think they will get on track fast enough in helping me attack it.As for portugal just use infantry against and it should fall but then if one attacks portugal you will lose resources that can be used elsewhere such as the russian front and cavalry is key to success i think but its expensive.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Apr 27, 2016 19:27:36 GMT
I think Bertheir with 2 saddles can get to russia by turn 8 or less if he does not engage but he will be deep in enemy territory you will need medkits for him and a snare drum of which i currenly own 3.I think Mormont is best used fighting naples then use him to help retake any ottoman citys that have been captured by the russians.Desiax i think would be best used taking over the HRE along with Napolean and Messena.Jourdan should wait at the coast ready to invade GB when the time is right i just dont really know when he should cross.I think the most challenging country to attack is GB i just dont know what to do with it.Denmark can hold its own i think for like 20 turns once you take over prussia you can recruit york and send him to Sweden and help defeat the swedes.Russia i think will be easy it is just to damn big and the polish i dont think they will get on track fast enough in helping me attack it.As for portugal just use infantry against and it should fall but then if one attacks portugal you will lose resources that can be used elsewhere such as the russian front and cavalry is key to success i think but its expensive. 1) Yes, you need to Rush someone to Russia. Berthier is good, but Davout, Poniatowski, and even Lannes are better thanks to Assault Art. Using an artillery general of your own and Massena, you can land in GB immediately. London by turn 10 and the rout of their force by turn 12 is a must. I'd suggest sending Desaix to Naples, Jourdan to Spain, and Marmont, Napoleon, Moreau and Dumouriez to the east. After London is yours, move your Art General east (Prussia if Dumouriez is strong, Sweden if he is weak) and get Mercer/Junot to help Massena. Deploy your last one on Cav or Art as may be needed. You're rushing, everywhere. The waiting game is impractical |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Apr 27, 2016 23:29:41 GMT
ill try this out but ill keep using berthier as my cavalry and ill put a modded napolean on the heavy artillary that starts out by the coast and in how many turns should i complete it to get enough years for the princesses.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Apr 27, 2016 23:43:07 GMT
31 with high resources. Enough for Victoria
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Apr 27, 2016 23:49:12 GMT
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Apr 27, 2016 23:53:40 GMT
Go read up on the requirements for Victoria in that thread. We had this discussion there. Let's keep this thread for suggetions on strategy and that's IT |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Apr 29, 2016 14:52:33 GMT
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Apr 29, 2016 16:02:38 GMT
Working on it. Current idea is sending Poniatowski on a Sprint straight to Moscow |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Apr 29, 2016 16:17:33 GMT
i tried using berthier for that with snare drum when he starts getting weak but the HRE keep putting troops in my way.I put him on the double formation heavy cavalry from the start.
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