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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 18, 2016 16:32:00 GMT
So we all know the best practices with regards to generals and suchlike in EW4 and WC3, but let's compare some of the things that didn't make the cut, such as generals that weren't quite good enough to be recommended.
To start, a WC3 Tank general puzzle: Itagaki vs Graziani, who is better?
Decided: 5-Iagaki, 2-Graziani
2nd Debate, an EW4 one: Napoleon or Blucher?
Decided: 2-Napoleon, 1-Blucher
3rd Debate, back to WC3: Mountain Fighting vs Street Fighting vs Jungle fighting vs Desert Fighting, make your picks (I'm allowing 2 winners so we have round 2 of this debate
Ended Debate 3 round 1: jungle 4, Street 4, Mountain 2, Desert 0
Now between Jungle and Street:
Jungle wins, with a split of 3-2.
4th Debate:
In EW4: War Expert or Nobleman?
Decided, War Expert Wins by (2-1)
5th Debate:
Crerar or Auchinlek?
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jul 18, 2016 17:14:42 GMT
So we all know the best practices with regards to generals and suchlike in EW4 and WC3, but let's compare some of the things that didn't make the cut, such as generals that weren't quite good enough to be recommended. To start, a WC3 Tank general puzzle: Itagaki vs Graziani, who is better? itagaki |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 18, 2016 17:27:23 GMT
Itagaki. 0 movement=0.
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 18, 2016 17:32:09 GMT
Itagaki
He came pretty close to topping Valutin. I can't say that about Grazini. And if anyone tries to sing praises of his health, I have to point out that HP are rank-based and any general can be promoted, so in the end the health of a brought general is meaningless in comparing generals at some point.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 19, 2016 4:03:47 GMT
With Itagaki vs Graziani being a clear 5 to 2 for Itagaki, we move on
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 4:10:06 GMT
And Napoleon and Blücher are both on their strongsuit?
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 19, 2016 4:11:40 GMT
And Napoleon and Blücher are both on their strongsuit? We're talking about to buy. It's a matter of who is better overall |
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Jul 24, 2016 22:49:30 GMT
Napoleon. Siege Master+Engineering>Formation.
Their stars are not that different anyway. But Napoleon's more well-rounded and Blucher's just infantry+cavalry. I haven't found a general with the same skill set of Napoleon bar Carteux, and he's not quite good. Blucher on the other hand has Wittgenstein as a replacement.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 24, 2016 22:56:59 GMT
Debate #3 is up! This one will have 3 rounds
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 25, 2016 1:25:18 GMT
Mountain Fighting vs Street Fighting vs Jungle fighting vs Desert Fighting
That's a hard one... firstly, Street should be considered a lot differently than the 3 other terrain because of the different nature of fighting on that land in comparison to the others.
All terrain bonuses works for you when you are attacking while standing on the matching terrain. So basically, it works best while you're moving around in an offensive punch.
Street applies only when you're sitting in a city. That's more of defensive fighting. That's why Street fighting is probably the most worthless one out of the 4.
The 3 others depends on where you are, more there something is, the better it is. Mountain is great when you are fighting in Europe. Desert is great for Africa. Jungle (includes forest btw) is great for fighting in SE Asia.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 1:46:40 GMT
Mountain Fighting vs Street Fighting vs Jungle fighting vs Desert Fighting That's a hard one... firstly, Street should be considered a lot differently than the 3 other terrain because of the different nature of fighting on that land in comparison to the others. All terrain bonuses works for you when you are attacking while standing on the matching terrain. So basically, it works best while you're moving around in an offensive punch. Street applies only when you're sitting in a city. That's more of defensive fighting. That's why Street fighting is probably the most worthless one out of the 4. The 3 others depends on where you are, more there something is, the better it is. Mountain is great when you are fighting in Europe. Desert is great for Africa. Jungle (includes forest btw) is great for fighting in SE Asia. Street fighting is by far the best, that's why Patton is so powerful. If your city is being attacked, it's easy to repel it. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 25, 2016 1:54:11 GMT
Mountain Fighting vs Street Fighting vs Jungle fighting vs Desert Fighting That's a hard one... firstly, Street should be considered a lot differently than the 3 other terrain because of the different nature of fighting on that land in comparison to the others. All terrain bonuses works for you when you are attacking while standing on the matching terrain. So basically, it works best while you're moving around in an offensive punch. Street applies only when you're sitting in a city. That's more of defensive fighting. That's why Street fighting is probably the most worthless one out of the 4. The 3 others depends on where you are, more there something is, the better it is. Mountain is great when you are fighting in Europe. Desert is great for Africa. Jungle (includes forest btw) is great for fighting in SE Asia. Street fighting is by far the best, that's why Patton is so powerful. If your city is being attacked, it's easy to repel it. Actually no, that's not why Patton is highly recommended to buy after Guderian. What is strongly coveted of his skills is the Explosives, not the Street Fighting. The explosives bonus applies to attacking enemy fortresses (which by coincidence, Easytech tagged cities with the fortress tag as well). So because of that, Patton becomes a decent city-buster, taking down enemy cities. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 1:59:08 GMT
Street fighting is by far the best, that's why Patton is so powerful. If your city is being attacked, it's easy to repel it. Actually no, that's not why Patton is highly recommended to buy after Guderian. What is strongly coveted of his skills is the Explosives, not the Street Fighting. The explosives bonus applies to attacking enemy fortresses (which by coincidence, Easytech tagged cities with the fortress tag as well). So because of that, Patton becomes a decent city-buster, taking down enemy cities. I don't know about you, but I am on defense a good portion of time. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 25, 2016 2:08:25 GMT
Actually no, that's not why Patton is highly recommended to buy after Guderian. What is strongly coveted of his skills is the Explosives, not the Street Fighting. The explosives bonus applies to attacking enemy fortresses (which by coincidence, Easytech tagged cities with the fortress tag as well). So because of that, Patton becomes a decent city-buster, taking down enemy cities. I don't know about you, but I am on defense a good portion of time. Okay, then I recommend lvl4 Plain Fighting because cities do count as plains as well. But you can use that skill almost anywhere else while going on the offense due to high number of plains in the game. So that's doubly useful, both def and off. Unfortunately, plain fighting is already obviously one of the best skills, so this thread isn't talking about it. |
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Post by best75 on Jul 25, 2016 2:23:32 GMT
Eh one of the 4 four skills are particularly good to me. If I had to chose I good with jungle.
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