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Post by forumusername on Aug 6, 2015 4:05:07 GMT
I view Patton the same way Rundstedt viewed Rommel: Fit for a division, but nothing more. On the topic of overwhelming advantages, the whole Rommel-Mongtomery rivalry is also blown way out of proportion. Montgomery took command in the North African theatre rather late into the campaign, and at that point, he could have mindlessly just thrown more bodies at the Germans and he would have won anyway.
In regards to the desert fox himself, while I am on the side that is highly critical of his abilities in regards to leadership and strategy, the effectiveness of his actions are another question altogether. Rommel tied up a lot of allied resources in North Africa, far more than he and the Italians rightfully deserved, or would have, had he not been such a headstrong and aggressive commander. And while his contributions towards the European front are not as clear (since it is questionable whether the western allies would have had the ability to open a second front even had they mopped up earlier; amphibious invasions are hard!), he certainly took a lot of pressure off from the Japanese, at least.
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Post by Mountbatten on Aug 6, 2015 18:33:40 GMT
I thought Patton and Montgomery had the biggest rivalry. I guess nobody likes Montgomery. However, that beast named MOUNTBATTEN is loved all around the world, killing Japanese in the name of the U.K.
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Post by forumusername on Aug 6, 2015 23:10:21 GMT
To be fair, Montgomery was a douche; so was Patton. One of the reasons why I consider so highly of Eisenhower and his leadership skills. As for Mountbatten... sorry to rain on the parade, but as most people would link the name Mountbatten to the Duke of Edinburgh, rather than love, I'd be surprised if a majority of people even knew who he bloody was; his main command, the Burma campaign not exactly being highly popular. Oh, except for Canadians, who rightfully despise the man.  Is there a reason why you are so fond of him? It does make me rather curious. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Aug 7, 2015 3:13:04 GMT
I tend to love the generals I first see. In EW4 it was Kutuzov and Lannes. Now in WC3 'tis Mountbatten. He kind of sucks in the game but in my imagination he is da best.
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Post by Jean Lannes on Aug 7, 2015 4:59:15 GMT
  This guy is underrated. That was conquest 1943 and he had full health. In campaign he is a Sergeant. |
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Post by kanue on Aug 7, 2015 5:12:38 GMT
I tend to love the generals I first see. In EW4 it was Kutuzov and Lannes. Now in WC3 'tis Mountbatten. He kind of sucks in the game but in my imagination he is da best. This..? Admiral of the Fleet Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of BurmaFrankly speaking, I do know him (actually just heard the name) long time before I even know anything about WW II. So I can say that he's the first WW II dude I know; before Rommel, Patton, Eisenhower, and even before Hitler. It was so long ago that I already forgot. Then I play WC3 an see him in British Royal Academy so I think "Hey... I know this dude." |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 7, 2015 5:39:43 GMT
It is true that we all know some of the allied / nazi generals before we knew anything bout the ww2 like in our history they tell us that wavell was a lord of india and he was later replaced by mountbatten but nobody ever looks up that who the hell were these two?
I remember when I was young enough I knew about hitler that he was responsible for the holocaust but I didn't knew ANYTHING about the second world war or EVEN about the nazi's, so there is something common between all of us about misunderstanding a general.
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Post by Jean Lannes on Aug 7, 2015 5:55:17 GMT
I had that kind of with Rommel just hearing something when I was really really young like 6 or something. Later came Patton and MacArthur. That all before I knew anything about Reinhard Heydrich and Adolf Eichmann (the actual planners of the "Endlösung der Judenfrage" a.k.a. Holocaust). I think we all have that in some way. My total opposite of all that was Napoleon about who I learned about when I was 10. Now I'm 13 and know more about these historic events than my history teachers lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 11:24:31 GMT
Josip Broz Tito-General of Yugoslavia.Biggest injustice is over him.He was Marshal,and had fought Germans and Italians when Europe was completely destroyed against because them.He commanded infantry exceptionally,for 5 stars,also he had artillery battles,he was great general,but Easy Tech are probably Americans or Russians (in Cold War,he founded Non-Aligned Movement,witch was for countries that wont participate to NATO nor WTO.Russia and America were mad and therefore caused war in Yugoslavia,that destroyed country .)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 15:36:21 GMT
Of course,Yugoslavia was neutral all times and only wars they fought was to defend country,not to invade,but Tito and partisans quickly abandoned cities and went to the woods for guerrilla warfare,while civilians suffered because there was no one to defend them.So Tito deserves 3 infantry stars,but he had at least great marching skills. Yugoslavia as country is underrated,because they should give 2 or 3 cities,not just 1-Belgrade.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 20, 2015 21:42:29 GMT
Of course Govorov is.
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Post by bottlesofvodka on Sept 21, 2015 5:32:52 GMT
In all my colleges on military history, hè was mentioned. ... twice. He's not that famous and rare known in the west
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Apr 25, 2018 2:48:02 GMT
Am i the only one who was surprised at Paulus, Kluge and Heinricis ratings, Kluge and Paulus were Marshalls and Heinrici a general, Kluge was the Von Bocks replacement yet hes one of the worst generals in the game, Paulus masterminded Operation Barbarossa and was a fierce battle commander, yet he is the worst German general, Heinrici was in charge of the Berlin defence and put up with 2.5 million Soviets for weeks, yet he's one of the worst, I don't get it, the history is so wrong, and plus shouldn't Italy have men in Russia and why is Italy 3 star, they couldn't even take Greece... Comment Opinions below. Paulus wasn't really a gerneralfeldmarschall. He was just given the role to make hold on to the ground. |
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Apr 25, 2018 2:48:55 GMT
In all my colleges on military history, hè was mentioned. ... twice. He's not that famous and rare known in the west You should give me some vodka. |
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Post by marshalchina on May 14, 2018 18:16:08 GMT
I can name 3 Chinese generals off my head that are underrated, Lin B, Zhu D, and Liu B. C. They were all marshals and all were incredibly experienced with all kinds of warfare. And to be honest Sir Mountbatten, I respect your character and he should definitely be 5 stars and better skills.
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