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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 10, 2016 12:54:13 GMT
What if crusades wouldn't had come to Baltic's? The Relations between Orthodox and Chatolics would ve smoother and they woild probably joun together to fight the Muslims He is referring to the crusades made by the Teutonic Order to christianize Eastern and Northern Europe, specifically against the Soumenusko in Estonia and Finland, not the ones done by the Popeman Back to your question The Light Bringer, I feel like they would have been christianized anyhow either by Poland-Lithuania or the Russian Empire, maybe Paganism would be a bit more prevalent, but all in all not much difference except maybe the Baltics become more Orthodox, more Catholic or more Protestant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 14:02:19 GMT
The Relations between Orthodox and Chatolics would ve smoother and they woild probably joun together to fight the Muslims He is referring to the crusades made by the Teutonic Order to christianize Eastern and Northern Europe, specifically against the Soumenusko in Estonia and Finland, not the ones done by the Popeman Back to your question The Light Bringer, I feel like they would have been christianized anyhow either by Poland-Lithuania or the Russian Empire, maybe Paganism would be a bit more prevalent, but all in all not much difference except maybe the Baltics become more Orthodox, more Catholic or more Protestant. Russian empire wasn't even close to empire and back then eastern Balts were living in Moscow and Baltic tribes were very strong, in big battles they used even near 800000 men. And even Mongols weren't capable of gaining lands. and they were overthrowned by making them fight between each other by order and monks
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 10, 2016 14:05:21 GMT
What if crusades wouldn't had come to Baltic's? No prussia. Saxony uber alles and anschluss all the German nations, forming germany. Dresden is the capital.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 14:13:26 GMT
What if crusades wouldn't had come to Baltic's? No prussia. Saxony uber alles and anschluss all the German nations, forming germany. Dresden is the capital. Prussia would exist anyway, it existed before Germany
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 10, 2016 14:16:21 GMT
No prussia. Saxony uber alles and anschluss all the German nations, forming germany. Dresden is the capital. Prussia would exist anyway, it existed before Germany That was Brandernburg or the region. The nation Prussia would not exist (it was the land of the Knights who were forced to turn the land into a duchy, which got passed to the Margrieve of Brandenburg, who later just shortened his Brandenburg-Prussia into Prussia). Saxony was the other nation who was competing against Prussia, so it could mean that Dresden would be divided into E. and W. Dresden.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 14:19:01 GMT
Prussia would exist anyway, it existed before Germany That was Brandernburg or the region. The nation Prussia would not exist (it was the land of the Knights who were forced to turn the land into a duchy, which got passed to the Margrieve of Brandenburg, who later just shortened his Brandenburg-Prussia into Prussia). Saxony was the other nation who was competing against Prussia, so it could mean that Dresden would be divided into E. and W. Dresden. Prussian tribes were the base for Prussia
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 10, 2016 14:24:46 GMT
That was Brandernburg or the region. The nation Prussia would not exist (it was the land of the Knights who were forced to turn the land into a duchy, which got passed to the Margrieve of Brandenburg, who later just shortened his Brandenburg-Prussia into Prussia). Saxony was the other nation who was competing against Prussia, so it could mean that Dresden would be divided into E. and W. Dresden. Prussian tribes were the base for Prussia No, the German Nation called Preussen. THe nation who had as their anthem. The Prussian Tribes would probably form a 'Prussia' (hereforth called Baltic Prussia) as well, but allied with the Balts and the Polish. The teutonic knights would probably end up on Malta, in Transylvania, or merging with the Tempars/Hospitallers.
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Post by polandballfan on Aug 11, 2016 6:10:04 GMT
Ok new question:what if prussia did not defend itself in seven years war but was defeated by joint forces of russia and austria?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 6:17:49 GMT
Ok new question:what if prussia did not defend itself in seven years war but was defeated by joint forces of russia and austria? A lot would change, for instance I'm pretty sure Napoleon wouldn't have been ambitious enough to take on Russia. Also Britain would've found it harder to become one of the greatest world powers. Chain reaction really.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 6:45:25 GMT
I want to ask too : What if... The US under Matthew C. Perry hadn't gone to Japan to 'open' trade with Japan? Japan would probably have never really become such an "outside" nation. That was the first step to encouraging trade and the fall of the Shogun. Instead Japan would probably have a civil war later on, like China.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 9:00:10 GMT
I want to ask too : What if... The US under Matthew C. Perry hadn't gone to Japan to 'open' trade with Japan? Japan would probably have never really become such an "outside" nation. That was the first step to encouraging trade and the fall of the Shogun. Instead Japan would probably have a civil war later on, like China. Civil war in Japan was hard to make, so it most likely wouldn't be in 100-150 years and shogun would live on longer, but eventually it would fall The difference would be Japan wouldn't become such advanced nation that fast.
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Post by Der Kaiserreich on Aug 11, 2016 11:42:34 GMT
Japan would probably have never really become such an "outside" nation. That was the first step to encouraging trade and the fall of the Shogun. Instead Japan would probably have a civil war later on, like China. Civil war in Japan was hard to make, so it most likely wouldn't be in 100-150 years and shogun would live on longer, but eventually it would fall The difference would be Japan wouldn't become such advanced nation that fast. I thought Japan already had a civil war before that, called the Sengoku Jedai?
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 11, 2016 11:45:34 GMT
Civil war in Japan was hard to make, so it most likely wouldn't be in 100-150 years and shogun would live on longer, but eventually it would fall The difference would be Japan wouldn't become such advanced nation that fast. I thought Japan already had a civil war before that, called the Sengoku Jedai? They did have that, not really a civil war, but definitely civil turmoil. The Boshin War was the Civil War following Perry's expeditions.
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Post by Tito on Aug 11, 2016 15:27:33 GMT
Now We Should Create Or Own Country ir a Group of Countries , Alliance , Empire 1.Tell What Happened To A Country To Make Your Countrt Exist. 2. What Would Your Country Change By Itself 3.What Would be the Diffrence in The World and Future 4.Who Would Rule The Country 5.What Would They Law's Be 6. Culture Religion And Would They Be Communist Fascist Drmocratic or Your Group 7.It Needs To Be On Our Planet not on Mars or the Moon. 8. It Can Be In Any Age.. 9.You Need A Reson To Make A Country Cgange or even unite ( Revolutuion ,Bad Economy etc ) I Will Post My Later
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 11, 2016 15:41:29 GMT
Now We Should Create Or Own Country ir a Group of Countries , Alliance , Empire 1.Tell What Happened To A Country To Make Your Countrt Exist. 2. What Would Your Country Change By Itself 3.What Would be the Diffrence in The World and Future 4.Who Would Rule The Country 5.What Would They Law's Be 6. Culture Religion And Would They Be Communist Fascist Drmocratic or Your Group 7.It Needs To Be On Our Planet not on Mars or the Moon. 8. It Can Be In Any Age.. 9.You Need A Reson To Make A Country Cgange or even unite ( Revolutuion ,Bad Economy etc ) I Will Post My Later Oh, this would be great as our Nationstate group RP! Want to join?
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