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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 26, 2016 14:30:02 GMT
Stop. Wrong numbers used for calculation of rolls needed. Jean-Luc Picard , this is wrong. You gave Ivan Kolev 50 BP for nothing. We all know why you gave him the 50 free bp, it's because you felt sorry for him being hit with four minus one espionage attacks. That was a reasonable act if it was all that you did. But no, you threw out the espionage out the window, so the 50 BP is all for nothing. This event should be rescinded along with the espionage at the same time because they are intertwined in reason of being. I request a rescind for Persian event, and a redo in Fred's turns to properly match the numbers. , if you did give the +50 BP for all the espionage attacks, rescind it, I agree that that is unfair. Those espionage attacks still crippled you this phase, even if there won't be more. I gave you the BP so you don't get ROFLstomped this phase |
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Post by Desophaeus on Aug 26, 2016 14:36:51 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard, if you did give the +50 BP for all the espionage attacks, rescind it, I agree that that is unfair. Those espionage attacks still crippled you this phase, even if there won't be more. I gave you the BP so you don't get ROFLstomped this phase So... the effects are still there from the espionage? I know you didn't specify, but it had sounded that way. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 26, 2016 14:37:47 GMT
Those espionage attacks still crippled you this phase, even if there won't be more. I gave you the BP so you don't get ROFLstomped this phase So... the effects are still there from the espionage? I know you didn't specify, but it had sounded that way. Yes, they are |
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Post by Desophaeus on Aug 26, 2016 14:41:42 GMT
So... the effects are still there from the espionage? I know you didn't specify, but it had sounded that way. Yes, they are That makes a reasonable compromise. Makes sense to me now. |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 26, 2016 14:44:00 GMT
So... the effects are still there from the espionage? I know you didn't specify, but it had sounded that way. Yes, they are ummm, what? I'd gladly get rid of the +50 BP bonus if you drop those espionage attacks. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 26, 2016 15:12:27 GMT
Did some math, Byzantines have lost ~310 BP before my assault, so 503-310=193.5 BP left. Well you might want to redo your turns after Fred does his redo... :/ *awkward* imma just ROFLstomp him before he fields an army and goes blitz on me. As I did four turns anyway so I'm going to annihilate what's left (keep in mind, I know he's asleep and is having dreams that I've completely killed him, Im not doing it. 3 phase rule is still here.) Anyways. Back to business. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 26, 2016 15:15:57 GMT
So I have 7 turns left (4 on last page).
Need two's for all battles, this looks weird so I'll go with a four at least.
5) Macedonia lost 1 gj28Xm16
6) Macedonia lost 2
7-11) recruited 90 infantries (18*5=90).
Doing losses.···
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Aug 26, 2016 16:35:27 GMT
Napoleon Bonaparte Ivan Kolev So you guys are totally fine with taking away espionage, perhaps the best tool the smaller countries Judea, Saxony, the Norse, and the Goths have against the larger countries seeking their clay? Shame. Quitting now, I will not play a game with people like that. Thats just not fair. Jean-Luc Picard if I can, I will cede all my territory and troops to the Byzantines. If not, then be on the lookout for a new player
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 26, 2016 16:51:58 GMT
Napoleon Bonaparte Ivan Kolev So you guys are totally fine with taking away espionage, perhaps the best tool the smaller countries Judea, Saxony, the Norse, and the Goths have against the larger countries seeking their clay? Shame. Quitting now, I will not play a game with people like that. Thats just not fair. Jean-Luc Picard if I can, I will cede all my territory and troops to the Byzantines. If not, then be on the lookout for a new player I am not permanently suspending it. Only temporarily, purusant to me devising a balancing mechanism of some kind (probably buffing counter and/or making an attack cap). |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 26, 2016 17:00:07 GMT
Napoleon Bonaparte Ivan Kolev So you guys are totally fine with taking away espionage, perhaps the best tool the smaller countries Judea, Saxony, the Norse, and the Goths have against the larger countries seeking their clay? Shame. Quitting now, I will not play a game with people like that. Thats just not fair. Jean-Luc Picard if I can, I will cede all my territory and troops to the Byzantines. If not, then be on the lookout for a new player I'd be willing to make a compromise where the Espionage system returns but if you spend your turn countering espionage, then no espionage attacks will affect you. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Aug 26, 2016 17:07:28 GMT
Napoleon Bonaparte Ivan Kolev So you guys are totally fine with taking away espionage, perhaps the best tool the smaller countries Judea, Saxony, the Norse, and the Goths have against the larger countries seeking their clay? Shame. Quitting now, I will not play a game with people like that. Thats just not fair. Jean-Luc Picard if I can, I will cede all my territory and troops to the Byzantines. If not, then be on the lookout for a new player I'd be willing to make a compromise where the Espionage system returns but if you spend your turn countering espionage, then no espionage attacks will affect you. That's kinda OP. Then there's no point in espionage if everyone is countering. The only way a spy would get to do anything is if you find a fool willing enough to waste his espionage on someone who is countering and leaving himself exposed then you can strike him down with your spy. |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 26, 2016 17:08:54 GMT
I'd be willing to make a compromise where the Espionage system returns but if you spend your turn countering espionage, then no espionage attacks will affect you. That's kinda OP. Then there's no point in espionage if everyone is countering. The only way a spy would get to do anything is if you find a fool willing enough to waste his espionage on someone who is countering and leaving himself exposed then you can strike him down with your spy. Well unless that is included, I refuse to abide by any espionage system. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Aug 26, 2016 17:09:59 GMT
I would agree to a cap if there is NO counter-espionage like a cap of 2 or 3 attacks allowed on a person. Ofc, assassination only once per 5 phases on a person. What else feels a little OP in comparison to others?
Add: I is like of lightning strikes someone who fails to gib their spy action! Of saving time wait of phase shortness!
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 26, 2016 18:55:29 GMT
That's kinda OP. Then there's no point in espionage if everyone is countering. The only way a spy would get to do anything is if you find a fool willing enough to waste his espionage on someone who is countering and leaving himself exposed then you can strike him down with your spy. Well unless that is included, I refuse to abide by any espionage system. If I make it so you can suffer no more than 2 attacks a phase? Or if I make counter block 2 attacks? |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 26, 2016 18:57:07 GMT
Well unless that is included, I refuse to abide by any espionage system. If I make it so you can suffer no more than 2 attacks a phase? Or if I make counter block 2 attacks? Nope. Just if you counter, no attacks count, no matter how many. |
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