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Post by pathdoc on Nov 25, 2016 17:15:05 GMT
I have 522 medals thanks to a very nice grind save, and I have the current refresh:
Balabio, 3 cav stars, logistics, fence, cost 510 August I, 3 trade stars (1 inf 1 art), business trainer, architecture, nobleman, cost 340 Janssens, 2 inf starts, trench, steersman, cost 330 Graham, 2 inf 3 art, 2 trade, artillery trainer, infantry tactics, disguise, cost 580 Dumouriez 4 cav stars, cav trainer, surprise, cost 575 Kutaisov, 3 artillery stars, artillery trainer, siege master, explosive, cost 430
My current command lineup (two noob generals, I know)
Konopka, 2 cav stars, trench, rank 64, nobility 7
Carteaux, 3 artillery stars, siege master, engineering, rank 74 nobility 6
Princess Sophia, explosive, spy, siege master, 0 inf, 2 art, 2 cav, 1 navy, 2 trade, 3 movement
I am currently considering getting Dumouriez, regrouping Konopka into Sophia to add some rank and nobility to her, using Dumouriez as a cav general for a while, then regrouping him when his training ability is required.
Alternative considerations and the reasons behind them are welcome.
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Post by Stonewall Jackson on Nov 25, 2016 18:36:55 GMT
Me personally, I would get Kutaisov or Dumouriez for their ability of being trainers. They are decent right now, but you can regroup them into stronger generals later.
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Nov 25, 2016 18:39:11 GMT
Restart
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Post by Stonewall Jackson on Nov 25, 2016 18:43:08 GMT
Restarting won't help him on his goal to beating the game. He isn't even in that bad of a situation.. EDIT: One way which would be necessary to restart would be if he used lots of medals to upgrade Nobility/rank
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Nov 25, 2016 18:45:27 GMT
Restarting won't help him on his goal to beating the game. He isn't even in that bad of a situation.. He probably lost a good 300-400 medals buying the generals. Seeing his generals, pathdoc isn't that far in the game yet. So that is why I recommended restarting.
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 25, 2016 19:04:47 GMT
Stonewall Jackson , Yi Sun Sin , Yep, definitely made that mistake. Once, when I bought Konopka. Never again. Most of his current rank and nobility are from grinding, though. Learned that lesson early. Nope. If I restart, I lose Sophia. I pulled off an absolute miracle (for a newbie with poor generals) to come in under 70 moves with the right amount of resources. Not going through that again. She stays. I've added about 350 medals in a couple of days with the grind save I've got, and working my way through it is a pleasure. I can do this forever and a day, and having a good general or two under my belt is only going to help more. The real question is who I get first - I can have Kutaisov now, but between Sophia and Carteaux I have artillery sorted out for the time being, whereas grinding out an extra fifty medals to get Dumouriez is no sweat, and he would have double the stars of my current cavalry general. If I were doing this on a 999-turn platform and heading for a grinding game, I would seriously consider August I - he would save me a lot of money in a long-haul scenario - but economics isn't a high priority right now; I can get him later. I imagine that when I buy one of them (which ever one I decide to get), he will drop out of the current lineup and another will simply take his place. I hope they don't reshuffle; there's a whole lot of training talent here, even if it's no good for anything except immediate regrouping. This also begs the question - technically if you ground through enough and bought enough generals over and over, you could boost all the princesses to five stars in everything (inf, cav, art, business), but some of them must have skill sets which make them better choices to be trained in certain areas. Is this summarised and analysed somewhere?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 19:34:12 GMT
Dumouriez could be nice, but without some good backup, he'll fall easily. Two good artillery generals are really nice to have together. I'm going to recommend Kutaisov.
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Nov 25, 2016 20:08:35 GMT
hmm, I don't know Dumouriez, but alot of people like him. I however used kutaisov for much of my play through (on the second last campaign) He is a good artillery general, and if you ever want to part with him, he can train sophia or somebody else.
I think with both Dumo and kutaisov on your academy you are in a good state. I imagine your greatest problem was buying Konokpa. if you have higher tolerance for farming than me you should be fine.
You can tell by their unit-specific skills, if they have any. Sophia has good anybody skills, but she has explosive which is for artillery attack. I currently have kate and sophia, upgraded sophia to 5 artillery stars and grinded to 125 health right now.
Note however that ballistics and mobility basically do nothing for some reason. I'm sure somebody, including me, would be willing to tell you if your choices are wrong. I can at least say what the princesses do best, though I haven't tried most of them.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Nov 25, 2016 20:17:20 GMT
pathdoc has Sophia and Carteaux, so Dumouriez is better than Kutaisov
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 26, 2016 1:13:44 GMT
Update: I did a bit more grinding and got Dumouriez. As already stated, with two generals currently weighted towards artillery and my cavalry a bit on the weak side (noob mistake, as was Carteaux; won't happen again), he was the logical choice.
Only 410 medals to go and then I can get Kutaisov.
I would like to know, purely out of interest, if anyone thinks they could have made a case for August or Graham, and if so why.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 2:27:09 GMT
Update: I did a bit more grinding and got Dumouriez. As already stated, with two generals currently weighted towards artillery and my cavalry a bit on the weak side (noob mistake, as was Carteaux; won't happen again), he was the logical choice. Only 410 medals to go and then I can get Kutaisov. I would like to know, purely out of interest, if anyone thinks they could have made a case for August or Graham, and if so why. Graham is overpriced and August I doesn't have any good skills.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Nov 26, 2016 2:44:38 GMT
Update: I did a bit more grinding and got Dumouriez. As already stated, with two generals currently weighted towards artillery and my cavalry a bit on the weak side (noob mistake, as was Carteaux; won't happen again), he was the logical choice. Only 410 medals to go and then I can get Kutaisov. I would like to know, purely out of interest, if anyone thinks they could have made a case for August or Graham, and if so why. August is a Business trainer, but he is unneeded at the moment. Graham is stupidly overpriced
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 26, 2016 11:21:33 GMT
Update: I did a bit more grinding and got Dumouriez. As already stated, with two generals currently weighted towards artillery and my cavalry a bit on the weak side (noob mistake, as was Carteaux; won't happen again), he was the logical choice. Only 410 medals to go and then I can get Kutaisov. I would like to know, purely out of interest, if anyone thinks they could have made a case for August or Graham, and if so why. August is a Business trainer, but he is unneeded at the moment. Graham is stupidly overpriced I figured as much. I know I will need August eventually, but I am not quite sure what the best time to buy him is or why. Which princess is the economic expert, again? I need to wait for her, don't I? Graham's mix of skills is potentially interesting - it seems to advertise him as more than a one-trick pony - but the general feeling I get from reading posts in all three subthreads is that princess-chasing especially is a process biased towards cavalrymen (or women) and artillerists. So in the long term it seems that infantry skills are de-emphasised (except perhaps in campaign mode, where the units you start with are chosen for you and you want as many generals in the field as possible), and Graham's extra cost is not justified (though I would love to know what "infantry tactics" is supposed to do).
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Nov 26, 2016 21:28:02 GMT
I figured as much. I know I will need August eventually, but I am not quite sure what the best time to buy him is or why. Which princess is the economic expert, again? I need to wait for her, don't I? Graham's mix of skills is potentially interesting - it seems to advertise him as more than a one-trick pony - but the general feeling I get from reading posts in all three subthreads is that princess-chasing especially is a process biased towards cavalrymen (or women) and artillerists. So in the long term it seems that infantry skills are de-emphasised (except perhaps in campaign mode, where the units you start with are chosen for you and you want as many generals in the field as possible), and Graham's extra cost is not justified (though I would love to know what "infantry tactics" is supposed to do). I am pretty sure there are cheaper trade trainers out there than August. The econ expert is fatimah but i suggest you use trainers on isabela as fatimah isn't a keeper and that noth have three trade stars. Cavalry and artillery are better than infantry. Though they all have similar output, cavalry is faster and artillery can outrange infantry. Infantry tactics is a skill that I think raises the minimum damage a bit.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Nov 26, 2016 21:48:41 GMT
I figured as much. I know I will need August eventually, but I am not quite sure what the best time to buy him is or why. Which princess is the economic expert, again? I need to wait for her, don't I? Graham's mix of skills is potentially interesting - it seems to advertise him as more than a one-trick pony - but the general feeling I get from reading posts in all three subthreads is that princess-chasing especially is a process biased towards cavalrymen (or women) and artillerists. So in the long term it seems that infantry skills are de-emphasised (except perhaps in campaign mode, where the units you start with are chosen for you and you want as many generals in the field as possible), and Graham's extra cost is not justified (though I would love to know what "infantry tactics" is supposed to do). I am pretty sure there are cheaper trade trainers out there than August. The econ expert is fatimah but i suggest you use trainers on isabela as fatimah isn't a keeper and that noth have three trade stars. Cavalry and artillery are better than infantry. Though they all have similar output, cavalry is faster and artillery can outrange infantry. Infantry tactics is a skill that I think raises the minimum damage a bit. Not a bit, just 0.
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