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Post by Darth Nihilus on Dec 7, 2016 0:37:11 GMT
What would had happened if the Roman Empire at its high of its peak would had faced of Against the Mongols? My opinion is that the Romans of course were fortress builders and they had the Roman Legions, and their borders were mostly well protected by the Legions. The Romans were also very disciplined and they mostly focus on heavy infantry AKA the Roman Legionnaires along with their auxiliary and cavalry. But mostly they relied on the Legionnaires. The Mongols were nomads. They were always on the move. A huge horde going around destroying and pillaging, they mostly relied on fast moving light cavalry archers and as we see in the game EW5, The Horse Archer is pretty bad. Infantry for them was the last role so they mostly didnt have infantry. They relied on Blitzkrieg type of attacks against their enemy forces.
They were so savage that they destroyed and literally wiped off of the face of the earth the country of Kharazmian which is present day Iran. It took up to the mid 20th Century for the population to get back to what it was from the massive destruction of the Mongols. However, the Romans did destroy Carthage so give me your opinion.
I think the Romans would win but at great cost for they were not nomadic they mostly relied on Supply columns while the Mongolians lived of the Land.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Dec 7, 2016 2:10:58 GMT
Could you possibly rephrase the above post with proper punctuation? I'd love to discuss, but I cannot follow what you say
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Dec 7, 2016 2:40:54 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,what exactly do u mean by rephrasing i gave a semi detailed account and well English is not my best subject i think its pretty detailed.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Dec 7, 2016 2:54:33 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,what exactly do u mean by rephrasing i gave a semi detailed account and well English is not my best subject i think its pretty detailed. I mean that it lacks basic punctuation, so I cannot tell where one statement ends and another begins. It's very detailed, but nearly unintelligible. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Dec 7, 2016 3:00:22 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,what exactly do u mean by rephrasing i gave a semi detailed account and well English is not my best subject i think its pretty detailed. I edited it for you. The things I changed was spaces after periods, and general rephrasing. Also I got rid of the solid "wall of text" by skipping lines in between sections. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Dec 7, 2016 3:16:52 GMT
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Post by Mountbatten on Dec 7, 2016 3:32:19 GMT
I think that the Romans would crush the Mongols in an instant. The Romans are a battle hardened race filled to the brim with soldiers. The Mongols are basically vagabonds with a ton of land. Both empires have the same problem, too much land and not enough citizens, but if the Romans actually wanted to go over there and take over Asia I have no doubt in my mind they could do it. Either that or while the soldiers are away their entire empire collapses in on itself with all of the political problems and the numerous enemies surrounding them. |
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Dec 7, 2016 3:34:23 GMT
The mongols could've just used catapults made by Jin engineers to destroy Roman fortifications and as we know, cavalry is superior to infantry wether it is light or heavily armoured. Every mongol man was a soldier, they learned how to ride a horse before they could walk. That would make them hopeless in infantry, but that could be fixed by Jin and Song foot soldiers.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Dec 7, 2016 3:35:59 GMT
I tend to agree with Batten. The Mongols have no experience dealing with an organized military like the Romans. Rome, however, is used to dealing with warrior-nomads like the Mongols. There is a great possibility that the victorious Roman Army will return to find the Empire in a state of civil war, or some secessionist movement in the periphery
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Dec 7, 2016 3:36:45 GMT
Yi Sun Sin,yes your right cavalry is superior but i think the Romans would had won they could always adapt the to have a larger cavalry wing and about the Jin Engineers your right.Still both empires fighting would had been epic.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Dec 7, 2016 3:39:19 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard Yes your right if the Roman Legions left to fight Mongolia a civil war would happen but of course they would leave the Preatorian guard to keep peace or raise new legions to keep the citizens in check.It would also depend on the emperor and the Generals commanding the Roman Legions.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Dec 7, 2016 3:42:15 GMT
Darth Nihilus, Jean-Luc Picard, Mountbatten, Yi Sun Sin, However all the battles would most likely be fought in an open place where the Mongolians would have the Advantage with their fast moving cavalry infantry losses would be high.The bow has always been a killing machine to bad the Romans didnt really implemented it in to their military like the Mongols did.The Mongols however were organized believe it or not guys thanks to Ghangis Khan.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Dec 7, 2016 3:51:17 GMT
Darth Nihilus, Jean-Luc Picard, Mountbatten, Yi Sun Sin, However all the battles would most likely be fought in an open place where the Mongolians would have the Advantage with their fast moving cavalry infantry losses would be high.The bow has always been a killing machine to bad the Romans didnt really implemented it in to their military like the Mongols did.The Mongols however were organized believe it or not guys thanks to Ghangis Khan. That is only correct if the Romans were charging blindly. Careful planning could keep all major fighting in areas where the Mongol Cavalry had trouble maneuvering. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Dec 7, 2016 3:55:11 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,Well true well we might never know as it didnt happen but im positive it would victory would come as great cost for the Romans.
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Dec 7, 2016 9:28:33 GMT
That is only correct if the Romans were charging blindly. Careful planning could keep all major fighting in areas where the Mongol Cavalry had trouble maneuvering. Then the mongols would cut off all roman supply routes from the roman camps. As Darth Nihilus said, the mongols didn't need any supply routes. The good thing about cavalry is that you can choose the battle ground thanks to superior speed. If the romans refused to come out onto a plain, then they would just starve to death. |
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