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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jan 1, 2017 10:14:27 GMT
Which one is your preferred nation to play as?
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Post by Desophaeus on Jan 10, 2017 1:35:18 GMT
I like them all (EXCEPT FOR THE USELESS AUSTRIA-HUNGARY!!)
*cough cough* Pardon the sudden outburst... I just find it insane hard to do well with A-H but I have played decently with all of the 6 others in the past.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jan 11, 2017 5:05:15 GMT
I like them all (EXCEPT FOR THE USELESS AUSTRIA-HUNGARY!!) *cough cough* Pardon the sudden outburst... I just find it insane hard to do well with A-H but I have played decently with all of the 6 others in the past. how dare you call Autriche-Hongrie as useless! The term useless isn't enough to define their uselessness!  |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jan 11, 2017 18:26:42 GMT
I like them all (EXCEPT FOR THE USELESS AUSTRIA-HUNGARY!!) *cough cough* Pardon the sudden outburst... I just find it insane hard to do well with A-H but I have played decently with all of the 6 others in the past. how dare you call Autriche-Hongrie as useless! The term useless isn't enough to define their uselessness! "Reanimated Corpse" sounds better? Turkey may be the Dead Man of Europe, but Austria-Hungary is the Dead Man of Dip. (See: Dip02) *Drops mic* |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jan 11, 2017 18:30:33 GMT
how dare you call Autriche-Hongrie as useless! The term useless isn't enough to define their uselessness! "Reanimated Corpse" sounds better? Turkey may be the Dead Man of Europe, but Austria-Hungary is the Dead Man of Dip. (See: Dip02) *Drops mic* A-H in dip02 was a disaster for me. #neverforget |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jan 11, 2017 19:35:31 GMT
I wouldn't mind trying A-H in the 1900 variant. It's a healthier position to start from.  |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jan 11, 2017 22:20:33 GMT
I wouldn't mind trying A-H in the 1900 variant. It's a healthier position to start from. It ain't so bad in Milan either. Germany is arguably weaker than A-H there |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jan 11, 2017 22:51:24 GMT
I wouldn't mind trying A-H in the 1900 variant. It's a healthier position to start from. It ain't so bad in Milan either. Germany is arguably weaker than A-H there True, just that in 1900, Turkey has an alternative route of expansion other than the Balkans, A-H's domestic situation is better with 3 armies rather than being hobbled with an useless fleet in a nearly landlocked port (sure, it can go for Greece but that makes it even worse with Austro-Turk relations). While Germany is vulnerable, he has sufficient options to create alliances but A-H doesn't. So even with Milan to compare, A-H is still better being in 1900 than that one. The only drawback with 1900 is the awkward rules that was necessary to compensate for the enlarged map, making it not the best choice to introduce Diplomacy to a newcomer. Don't get me wrong, on a standard map, I had managed to make a Italy/Turkey alliance last almost 15 game years to the end, leaving only a 2-sc Germany alive and Turkey won a solo while I was Italy. It was a great game. I'm sure in the Milan variant, I could make Austria/Turkey alliance last with reasonable precautions agreed upon. I still don't like A-H on the standard or Milan. |
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Post by António Salazar on Jan 12, 2017 5:41:34 GMT
What...I am the only one to vote Germany. I mean.....Turn 1= 3 extra sc. Though good diplomacy with Russia, France and Turkey is a must.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jan 12, 2017 13:04:53 GMT
What...I am the only one to vote Germany. I mean.....Turn 1= 3 extra sc. Though good diplomacy with Russia, France and Turkey is a must. well the three extra SC thing is good and all but you're still sandwiched in the middle of the board and you have to keep an eye on literally every unit on the board (which includes allies and enemies). That's why I never like playing Germany. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jan 12, 2017 16:32:57 GMT
What...I am the only one to vote Germany. I mean.....Turn 1= 3 extra sc. Though good diplomacy with Russia, France and Turkey is a must. Actually... it's advised to NOT take those 3 extra SCs in the first fall for Germany. Germany does not need to get hit hard with the Early Leader Syndrome. If infected with ELS, no amount of diplomatic haggling will save Germany from envious neighbors tearing him apart. I prefer a 2 extra SC growth then another 2 in the next year, it's a much more stable rate of growth rather than booming to 6 SCs in first year, then crash after that. |
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Post by António Salazar on Jan 12, 2017 18:55:47 GMT
What...I am the only one to vote Germany. I mean.....Turn 1= 3 extra sc. Though good diplomacy with Russia, France and Turkey is a must. Actually... it's advised to NOT take those 3 extra SCs in the first fall for Germany. Germany does not need to get hit hard with the Early Leader Syndrome. If infected with ELS, no amount of diplomatic haggling will save Germany from envious neighbors tearing him apart. I prefer a 2 extra SC growth then another 2 in the next year, it's a much more stable rate of growth rather than booming to 6 SCs in first year, then crash after that. I won all my games I played as Germany but 2. You have to be a really good diplomat but usually I create a Russo-Turkish war and an Austro-Italian war. Dealing with France is easy when you promiss England some provinces, though keep good ties for Russia in case England starts turning rebellious. No need to seek friendly ties with France, France knows you are going to f him up. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jan 12, 2017 19:40:09 GMT
Actually... it's advised to NOT take those 3 extra SCs in the first fall for Germany. Germany does not need to get hit hard with the Early Leader Syndrome. If infected with ELS, no amount of diplomatic haggling will save Germany from envious neighbors tearing him apart. I prefer a 2 extra SC growth then another 2 in the next year, it's a much more stable rate of growth rather than booming to 6 SCs in first year, then crash after that. I won all my games I played as Germany but 2. You have to be a really good diplomat but usually I create a Russo-Turkish war and an Austro-Italian war. Dealing with France is easy when you promiss England some provinces, though keep good ties for Russia in case England starts turning rebellious. No need to seek friendly ties with France, France knows you are going to f him up. So if I encountered you in a Dip game, I will remember what you said as a page from your playbook. |
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Post by António Salazar on Jan 13, 2017 6:20:50 GMT
I won all my games I played as Germany but 2. You have to be a really good diplomat but usually I create a Russo-Turkish war and an Austro-Italian war. Dealing with France is easy when you promiss England some provinces, though keep good ties for Russia in case England starts turning rebellious. No need to seek friendly ties with France, France knows you are going to f him up. So if I encountered you in a Dip game, I will remember what you said as a page from your playbook. But of course I can do one of my other 4 strategies as Germany. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jan 13, 2017 8:24:48 GMT
So if I encountered you in a Dip game, I will remember what you said as a page from your playbook. But of course I can do one of my other 4 strategies as Germany. speaking of diplomacy. Will you join the next game (dip05)? |
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