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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 21:11:55 GMT
What are some general skills worth upgrading and ones that are not
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Feb 12, 2017 21:46:11 GMT
Invest everything in Leonidas. Everything.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 21:50:04 GMT
Ok will max out Leonidas (was joking)
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Feb 12, 2017 21:51:40 GMT
Invest everything in Leonidas. Everything. I'm tempted to. Pretty sure he will get that Phalanx ability at level 6. Ugh, turns him from the best infantry general to the worst anything. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Feb 12, 2017 22:01:53 GMT
This is just my opinion but...
Leadership: at Level 6 60% chance to give the enemy half attack for 2 turns. Level 10 would be 100%, but only important to get to 6, so it gets 2 turns duration.
Logistics: Upgrade to level 4-5. Depending on level has a 10-100% chance to restore 12% HP on killing enemy. Really useful, as long as your general can kill something.
Braveness: I upgraded it on Atilla to level 10. Now he never gets return damage. This should be your priority on your best general with it.
Commander skills: From what I have heard, Commander skill (archer, Cavalry, infantry, artillery) are pretty useful.
This is because not only do these increase lots of damage at high levels, for general using it too, but they can boost the ability of nearby troops with the same unit type. (Archer to archer)
However, commander skill is pretty useless before being upgraded.
Rumor: Has a chance to stop the enemy unit from doing ANYTHING. While you can't upgrade it to 100% activation, at level 6 I believe, it has a duration of 2.
Skills not to use!
Shelter: Artillery has the least attack in game, so its not important to put medals into resisting them. I guess it might be useful at some points, but its not a priority.
Defense/attack expert/master: Boosts these stats, but costs a LOT of medals for this low increase.
General/Marshal: Look pretty good, but in reality cost a lot of medals for little gain. You can get the same health increase as general from Items, and the same increase as marshal from the best Items. Think, do you want to spend 160+ medals for 60 health? And it only gets worse from there.
General/marshal and ATT/DEF expert/master actually have the same problem. Can get these boosts from Items, so why bother?
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Feb 12, 2017 22:19:02 GMT
Rumor makes cleopatra actually have a use
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Feb 12, 2017 22:24:09 GMT
Rumor makes cleopatra actually have a use She is the only Artillery general to get mobility (attack after kill) at level 6 This is not very useful on a Artillery, as they have too low attack to kill enemies themselves (through might work after killing a fort) However, someone noted that if Inspiration is upgraded, she gets an increase to attack as she is always high morale. However, all this does is compensate for her weak base attack. Rumor would be great on an artillery general, but if you have a stronger Rumor general, focus on them. (cleopatra, at level 6 and with rumor and inspiration upgraded, might be a pretty good general. But that is quite debatable, don't forget she has the stats of a blue general) |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 12, 2017 22:28:50 GMT
Prior: Leadership, Braveness, Commander, Rumor, Inspiration, Armor Master, Logistics.
For Shelter, it might have some use on Jeanne d'Arc, when you need a decoy to enemy eye covered arty(who sometimes has rumor/leadership/all kinds of annoying debuffs).
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 12, 2017 22:30:17 GMT
Rumor makes cleopatra actually have a use She is the only Artillery general to get mobility (attack after kill) at level 6 This is not very useful on a Artillery, as they have too low attack to kill enemies themselves (through might work after killing a fort) However, someone noted that if Inspiration is upgraded, she gets an increase to attack as she is always high morale. However, all this does is compensate for her weak base attack. Rumor would be great on an artillery general, but if you have a stronger Rumor general, focus on them. (cleopatra, at level 6 and with rumor and inspiration upgraded, might be a pretty good general. But that is quite debatable, don't forget she has the stats of a blue general) Her stat is at least a Koxinga, with good equipment she can exceed Bismarck. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Feb 12, 2017 22:39:00 GMT
Erich von Manstein , Which is why I said its debatable. There seems to be a convincing argument as to her use. However, is her stats equal to Koxinga with or without Inspiration? I think she has a better second skill and third skill anyway, and the same first) (Rumor being used on land, not water like koxingas second skill) EDIT: As for Bismarck, his first skill is better, but both are basic. His second skill is the same, and his third skill is much worse. Considering that, and that he gets a worse ability at level 6, and she gets better, I wouldn't be surprised if she is better. I guess.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 12, 2017 22:50:21 GMT
Erich von Manstein , Which is why I said its debatable. There seems to be a convincing argument as to her use. However, is her stats equal to Koxinga with or without Inspiration? I think she has a better second skill and third skill anyway, and the same first) (Rumor being used on land, not water like koxingas second skill) EDIT: As for Bismarck, his first skill is better, but both are basic. His second skill is the same, and his third skill is much worse. Considering that, and that he gets a worse ability at level 6, and she gets better, I wouldn't be surprised if she is better. I guess. Without equipment: Koxinga=Inspired Cleopatra<Bismarck. With good equipment(purple): Koxinga<Inspired Cleopatra=Bismarck. With superb equipment(gold): Koxinga<Bismark(= or slightly<)Inspired Cleopatra. Cleopatra loses non-retaliate in 6 stars, and that's an issue. And I think most people will stick with 5* Bismarck and maybe 5* Cleopatra by preference. The difference between lvl 50 and 60, other than skills, is only about 5%. Li Shimin is superior to all of them by stats BTW, but I usually recommend Cleopatra because most people are pretty satisfied with Bismarck. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 23:24:35 GMT
So far on Washington and Richard they have lv5 logistics, and Genghis has lv6 braveness, going to get li shimins logistics up next then work on nobunagas debuff skills. The two with better logistics are amazing, playing France discovery age moving into africa, practically destroyed Spain. So unused to having north America having some substantial cities( it is allied, USA has a lot of land.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 23:26:36 GMT
Going to upgrade all of the generals I use abilities, they are good generals just crummy ability levels (Washington, Genghis Khan,Richard,Li Shimin,Saladin,Nobunaga,and Alexander.)
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Feb 12, 2017 23:38:04 GMT
Then I would suggest doing these skills first, and some of them never do unless you have done absolutely everything else:
Genghis khan (upgrade Braveness, only important skill, ignore marshal)
Washington (upgrade Logistics, ignore defence master)
Richard (ignore formation master, upgrade rumor or logistics)
Li Shimin (ignore marshal, upgrade logistics)
Saladin (logistics, IGNORE attack expert)
Nobunaga (Leadership, then spy)
Alexander (only good skill is spy)
The reason I don't suggest upgrading any of their 1st skills (master) is because the master unit type skills, are good at level 1, but don't get much stronger with upgrade. So I hear anyway.
I actually like how Napoleon and Washington have Attack and Defense master. These skills are meant to make up for their unit type weaknesses (no attack on Artillery, no defense on archers)
However, they are still bad skills to upgrade, despite being focused on that. So I think anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 0:12:08 GMT
I do wish I could get Napoleon, seems to be amazing, maybe one day, probably not already havw Li shimin
And Bismarck comes in later in the game
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