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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Mar 17, 2017 23:00:35 GMT
Don't mind me. Just liking funny posts that stand for things I DONT like. you, Yi and transfermium need to chill, you guys like everything! What? |
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Mar 17, 2017 23:37:01 GMT
AH expresses interests to annex Bosnia.
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Post by Frederick the Great on Mar 18, 2017 0:44:58 GMT
Ok...I need to say this....
You can't just click your fingers and have a modern navy. You need the facilities to support a modern fleet which even Britain is currently lacking at the moment (and if Britain lacks something in regards to a navy everyone else certainly lacks it as well). You also need the experience and Britain and kinda France are the only ones who have any experience. Britain was training many other navies, notably Japan and just because that happened IRL doesn't mean I'm going to train your navies, thus it will take a much longer time your your navies to get good. You also need the industrial capacity and most of you are lacking that. Britain, France, Germany and Russia (possibly to an extent Japan) are the only ones who have this. You also need the monies and money spend on ships is money not spent in other places. I'm not saying you need to account for every dollar/pound/Reichsmark/lira/Franc/Rupin etc. but you can't say "We modernise the navy we now have lots of Battlehsips and the biggest bestest ship in the world, oh and we also increase the army, we now have a new thing called tanks. We also have spent much money on reforming agriculture." You just can't do it. If you spend money on your navy your going to suffer in other places, often the army.
Oh and stop saying "we have a really powerful ship being built. We will soon have the biggest ship in history built even though we shouldn't be physically able to build anything like this at this time. Next stop, nuclear submarines!"
I'm not saying this because I want the best navy. I do want the best navy but I don't mind having a rival or two, however everyone saying they are modernising their navy with no regard for the consequences or even if the country is in a state to realisticly even attempt to modernise, is really annoying me. Not everyone needs a good navy. It's ok to have a crap navy because you can get better in other places. Note this is NOT directed at anyone in particular. I have seen several players doing this which is why I wanted to point it out.
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Mar 18, 2017 0:51:28 GMT
Ok...I need to say this.... You can't just click your fingers and have a modern navy. You need the facilities to support a modern fleet which even Britain is currently lacking at the moment (and if Britain lacks something in regards to a navy everyone else certainly lacks it as well). You also need the experience and Britain and kinda France are the only ones who have any experience. Britain was training many other navies, notably Japan and just because that happened IRL doesn't mean I'm going to train your navies, thus it will take a much longer time your your navies to get good. You also need the industrial capacity and most of you are lacking that. Britain, France, Germany and Russia (possibly to an extent Japan) are the only ones who have this. You also need the monies and money spend on ships is money not spent in other places. I'm not saying you need to account for every dollar/pound/Reichsmark/lira/Franc/Rupin etc. but you can't say "We modernise the navy we now have lots of Battlehsips and the biggest bestest ship in the world, oh and we also increase the army, we now have a new thing called tanks. We also have spent much money on reforming agriculture." You just can't do it. If you spend money on your navy your going to suffer in other places, often the army. Oh and stop saying "we have a really powerful ship being built. We will soon have the biggest ship in history built even though we shouldn't be physically able to build anything like this at this time. Next stop, nuclear submarines!" I'm not saying this because I want the best navy. I do want the best navy but I don't mind having a rival or two, however everyone saying they are modernising their navy with no regard for the consequences or even if the country is in a state to realisticly even attempt to modernise, is really annoying me. Not everyone needs a good navy. It's ok to have a crap navy because you can get better in other places. Note this is NOT directed at anyone in particular. I have seen several players doing this which is why I wanted to point it out. Agreed. Land Power is great as well; just look at Russia and Germany IRL. |
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Mar 18, 2017 0:52:38 GMT
Ok...I need to say this.... You can't just click your fingers and have a modern navy. You need the facilities to support a modern fleet which even Britain is currently lacking at the moment (and if Britain lacks something in regards to a navy everyone else certainly lacks it as well). You also need the experience and Britain and kinda France are the only ones who have any experience. Britain was training many other navies, notably Japan and just because that happened IRL doesn't mean I'm going to train your navies, thus it will take a much longer time your your navies to get good. You also need the industrial capacity and most of you are lacking that. Britain, France, Germany and Russia (possibly to an extent Japan) are the only ones who have this. You also need the monies and money spend on ships is money not spent in other places. I'm not saying you need to account for every dollar/pound/Reichsmark/lira/Franc/Rupin etc. but you can't say "We modernise the navy we now have lots of Battlehsips and the biggest bestest ship in the world, oh and we also increase the army, we now have a new thing called tanks. We also have spent much money on reforming agriculture." You just can't do it. If you spend money on your navy your going to suffer in other places, often the army. Oh and stop saying "we have a really powerful ship being built. We will soon have the biggest ship in history built even though we shouldn't be physically able to build anything like this at this time. Next stop, nuclear submarines!" I'm not saying this because I want the best navy. I do want the best navy but I don't mind having a rival or two, however everyone saying they are modernising their navy with no regard for the consequences or even if the country is in a state to realisticly even attempt to modernise, is really annoying me. Not everyone needs a good navy. It's ok to have a crap navy because you can get better in other places. Note this is NOT directed at anyone in particular. I have seen several players doing this which is why I wanted to point it out. Heisenberg says "Relax" |
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Post by Antonio Santa Anna on Mar 18, 2017 0:58:13 GMT
Ok...I need to say this.... You can't just click your fingers and have a modern navy. You need the facilities to support a modern fleet which even Britain is currently lacking at the moment (and if Britain lacks something in regards to a navy everyone else certainly lacks it as well). You also need the experience and Britain and kinda France are the only ones who have any experience. Britain was training many other navies, notably Japan and just because that happened IRL doesn't mean I'm going to train your navies, thus it will take a much longer time your your navies to get good. You also need the industrial capacity and most of you are lacking that. Britain, France, Germany and Russia (possibly to an extent Japan) are the only ones who have this. You also need the monies and money spend on ships is money not spent in other places. I'm not saying you need to account for every dollar/pound/Reichsmark/lira/Franc/Rupin etc. but you can't say "We modernise the navy we now have lots of Battlehsips and the biggest bestest ship in the world, oh and we also increase the army, we now have a new thing called tanks. We also have spent much money on reforming agriculture." You just can't do it. If you spend money on your navy your going to suffer in other places, often the army. Oh and stop saying "we have a really powerful ship being built. We will soon have the biggest ship in history built even though we shouldn't be physically able to build anything like this at this time. Next stop, nuclear submarines!" I'm not saying this because I want the best navy. I do want the best navy but I don't mind having a rival or two, however everyone saying they are modernising their navy with no regard for the consequences or even if the country is in a state to realisticly even attempt to modernise, is really annoying me. Not everyone needs a good navy. It's ok to have a crap navy because you can get better in other places. Note this is NOT directed at anyone in particular. I have seen several players doing this which is why I wanted to point it out. The Kaiser says to chill out. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 18, 2017 1:00:28 GMT
Ok...I need to say this.... You can't just click your fingers and have a modern navy. You need the facilities to support a modern fleet which even Britain is currently lacking at the moment (and if Britain lacks something in regards to a navy everyone else certainly lacks it as well). You also need the experience and Britain and kinda France are the only ones who have any experience. Britain was training many other navies, notably Japan and just because that happened IRL doesn't mean I'm going to train your navies, thus it will take a much longer time your your navies to get good. You also need the industrial capacity and most of you are lacking that. Britain, France, Germany and Russia (possibly to an extent Japan) are the only ones who have this. You also need the monies and money spend on ships is money not spent in other places. I'm not saying you need to account for every dollar/pound/Reichsmark/lira/Franc/Rupin etc. but you can't say "We modernise the navy we now have lots of Battlehsips and the biggest bestest ship in the world, oh and we also increase the army, we now have a new thing called tanks. We also have spent much money on reforming agriculture." You just can't do it. If you spend money on your navy your going to suffer in other places, often the army. Oh and stop saying "we have a really powerful ship being built. We will soon have the biggest ship in history built even though we shouldn't be physically able to build anything like this at this time. Next stop, nuclear submarines!" I'm not saying this because I want the best navy. I do want the best navy but I don't mind having a rival or two, however everyone saying they are modernising their navy with no regard for the consequences or even if the country is in a state to realisticly even attempt to modernise, is really annoying me. Not everyone needs a good navy. It's ok to have a crap navy because you can get better in other places. Note this is NOT directed at anyone in particular. I have seen several players doing this which is why I wanted to point it out. The Kaiser says to chill out. The Kaiser needs to listen. Would your granny approve of you not knowing how navies are built, Kaiser Inbred II? If you Gib Alsace-Lorraine, and pay us back the indemnity of 1871, we'd be open to helping you build a big navy... |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 18, 2017 1:07:59 GMT
A quick economics lesson for the "biggest, bestest navy" club. Building a navy requires money. Where does money come from: 1. Loans 2. Other places in the budget 3. Taxes 4. The printing press Let's start with 1. Loans would require you to get someone's banks to give them. Unless you're a wealthy nation, you'll need someone else to let their banks give you a loan. Loans also cause inflation. Inflation makes your people angry and your trade deficit big. #2 You have to take money from agricultural subsidies, development programmes, pensions, etc. This makes people angry, and those programs existed for a reason #3 People hate high taxes. High taxes also make your economy contract, possibly triggering a recession. High taxes combined with high spending create the "Crowding Out Effect", which is private businesses losing money because they are outcompeted by the state. Lots of people lose jobs. #4 Printing money creates a lot of inflation. If you do this, your currency becomes worthless. Not only will trade suffer, but your people will have trouble affording bread. When people have trouble affording bread, revolutions happen (see: 1789) While you're building the biggest, bestest ship in the world, keep this in mind. Sincerely, Jean-Luc Picard, man with an advanced Economics Degree |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 18, 2017 1:09:28 GMT
Ok...I need to say this.... You can't just click your fingers and have a modern navy. You need the facilities to support a modern fleet which even Britain is currently lacking at the moment (and if Britain lacks something in regards to a navy everyone else certainly lacks it as well). You also need the experience and Britain and kinda France are the only ones who have any experience. Britain was training many other navies, notably Japan and just because that happened IRL doesn't mean I'm going to train your navies, thus it will take a much longer time your your navies to get good. You also need the industrial capacity and most of you are lacking that. Britain, France, Germany and Russia (possibly to an extent Japan) are the only ones who have this. You also need the monies and money spend on ships is money not spent in other places. I'm not saying you need to account for every dollar/pound/Reichsmark/lira/Franc/Rupin etc. but you can't say "We modernise the navy we now have lots of Battlehsips and the biggest bestest ship in the world, oh and we also increase the army, we now have a new thing called tanks. We also have spent much money on reforming agriculture." You just can't do it. If you spend money on your navy your going to suffer in other places, often the army. Oh and stop saying "we have a really powerful ship being built. We will soon have the biggest ship in history built even though we shouldn't be physically able to build anything like this at this time. Next stop, nuclear submarines!" I'm not saying this because I want the best navy. I do want the best navy but I don't mind having a rival or two, however everyone saying they are modernising their navy with no regard for the consequences or even if the country is in a state to realisticly even attempt to modernise, is really annoying me. Not everyone needs a good navy. It's ok to have a crap navy because you can get better in other places. Note this is NOT directed at anyone in particular. I have seen several players doing this which is why I wanted to point it out. Heisenberg says "Relax" Yuo of landlocked. Serbia cannot into navy. |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Mar 18, 2017 1:09:40 GMT
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Post by Antonio Santa Anna on Mar 18, 2017 1:12:40 GMT
The Kaiser says to chill out. The Kaiser needs to listen. Would your granny approve of you not knowing how navies are built, Kaiser Inbred II? If you Gib Alsace-Lorraine, and pay us back the indemnity of 1871, we'd be open to helping you build a big navy... Don't drag Granny into this! Our navy is coming along... And as for "your land", no. Don't give me reason to extort another 5 billion francs from you. |
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Mar 18, 2017 1:13:10 GMT
I heard the call of Star Wars memes?!?! Latest map and changes, anyone? |
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Post by best75 on Mar 18, 2017 1:14:53 GMT
Ok...I need to say this.... You can't just click your fingers and have a modern navy. You need the facilities to support a modern fleet which even Britain is currently lacking at the moment (and if Britain lacks something in regards to a navy everyone else certainly lacks it as well). You also need the experience and Britain and kinda France are the only ones who have any experience. Britain was training many other navies, notably Japan and just because that happened IRL doesn't mean I'm going to train your navies, thus it will take a much longer time your your navies to get good. You also need the industrial capacity and most of you are lacking that. Britain, France, Germany and Russia (possibly to an extent Japan) are the only ones who have this. You also need the monies and money spend on ships is money not spent in other places. I'm not saying you need to account for every dollar/pound/Reichsmark/lira/Franc/Rupin etc. but you can't say "We modernise the navy we now have lots of Battlehsips and the biggest bestest ship in the world, oh and we also increase the army, we now have a new thing called tanks. We also have spent much money on reforming agriculture." You just can't do it. If you spend money on your navy your going to suffer in other places, often the army. Oh and stop saying "we have a really powerful ship being built. We will soon have the biggest ship in history built even though we shouldn't be physically able to build anything like this at this time. Next stop, nuclear submarines!" I'm not saying this because I want the best navy. I do want the best navy but I don't mind having a rival or two, however everyone saying they are modernising their navy with no regard for the consequences or even if the country is in a state to realisticly even attempt to modernise, is really annoying me. Not everyone needs a good navy. It's ok to have a crap navy because you can get better in other places. Note this is NOT directed at anyone in particular. I have seen several players doing this which is why I wanted to point it out. This was one of my concerns with this type of RP People can say they modernized the army, invest in whatever or research whatever without factoring in how hard they would be or the consequences. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 18, 2017 1:18:04 GMT
The Kaiser needs to listen. Would your granny approve of you not knowing how navies are built, Kaiser Inbred II? If you Gib Alsace-Lorraine, and pay us back the indemnity of 1871, we'd be open to helping you build a big navy... Don't drag Granny into this! Our navy is coming along... And as for "your land", no. Don't give me reason to extort another 5 billion francs from you. You can damn well try, but my army is bigger. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Mar 18, 2017 1:19:39 GMT
The Kaiser needs to listen. Would your granny approve of you not knowing how navies are built, Kaiser Inbred II? If you Gib Alsace-Lorraine, and pay us back the indemnity of 1871, we'd be open to helping you build a big navy... Don't drag Granny into this! Our navy is coming along... And as for "your land", no. Don't give me reason to extort another 5 billion francs from you. Look, it's fine for you to make a navy but your going about it in a Borderline Godmoding way. At this plaint Germany hardly has a navy and your trying it claim that in a year or two Germany will have the best ship in the world? That's Godmoding and it's not ok. |
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