Post by Louis-Alexandre Berthier on Apr 19, 2017 10:57:24 GMT
To clarify, Isabella and Lan are not usually obtained around the same time. He just recently obtained Isabella (she’s at 54/7 or so) and he still hasn’t completed the first two campaigns. Isabella has no infantry or navy ability to speak of (that’s Victoria), and yes VICTORIA and Lan are usually obtained around the same time, but evidence points to at least Lan if not both Lan/Victoria requiring significant campaign progress (about 220+/Rise of America) – as you noted in your own experience. I think you were misremembering your stars because 175 is low for Rise of America unless you’re just 3-starring everything, which of course isn’t recommended either because you’ll miss out on the emblem bonus.
But the fundamental point I was making is that he will find it very difficult to get to Rise of America with only Sophia, Isabela, and Raevsky – he needs another cavalry general now, not 2 ½ campaigns from now. Also, it’s challenging to get cavalry generals groomed (unless you do some serious farming) in the last two campaigns. Rise of America is only 10 scenarios long (excluding Great Sea Warfare) and half of SNS (also 10 scenarios) is naval – so it’s not like newly minted cavalry generals are going to go around killing a lot of warships for rank.
Moving on to the slot discussion. I obviously am not a proponent of recommending the 4-slot approach to anyone seeking answers on these boards. It is the most difficult way to try to play this game, and also not easily reversed once you go down that path. If you do try it and don’t have the chops to finish with 4-slots, then you’re screwed because you’ve probably regrouped princesses you’ll never get back but could use at that point, as well as set yourself up for a boatload of late-game farming to get additional generals conditioned. If a noob wants to try 4-slot play then more power to him/her but I view recommending that path to be borderline irresponsible.
Again, it’s a mildly-interesting discussion piece but I’ve seen more academic discussion of 4-slot completion of the game than actual evidence of people having done so. The approach that has some following is to train Sophia as your second cavalry, and go into land-scenarios with Lan #1 cav, Sophia as #2 cav / #2 artillery, Victoria as infantry, and Isabela as #1 artillery. A powerful lineup, but I don’t see that group as being enough in a few scenarios, Final Battle, just for starters. There is only so much that you can do tactically without survivability. Also, playing a lot of navy without Kate strikes me as a bone-headed thing to do.
HOWEVER, in the scenario that you describe with Isabela, Sophia, Raevsky, Golitsyn, and Lan waiting in the wings, then it doesn’t matter who you regroup Raevsky or Golitsyn into. One into the other perhaps and then into Lan. But then you’ll still have to rush for Victoria who will be green and with no one to group into her. In short, 4-slot play is awkward especially when the alternative is ponying up .99 cents.
But that decision is off in Pirkes future, and my concern is he won’t get an opportunity to reach that point unless he gets a second cavalry general, and if you believe that – and I assume he’s looking for Lan because he’s come to that realization himself – then why wouldn’t you get Golitsyn now, who is nearly (if not) Lan’s equal?
Oops, I meant Victoria.
I don't remember saying that I beat it in Rise of America, but said it should be unlocked then or before then.
It's true that beating the game 4-slots is hard; I usually try to get at least 5 slots. However, some people either do not want to get more slots or cannot.
In my scenario, the best option would be to regroup Raevsky into Golitsyn. However, that would only be a good choice if you do not later regroup Golitsyn. This is why many people don't buy Golitsyn at the start. They would much rather get a good cav with the ability of trainer as insurance that if they do regroup their cav person, they will at least get some value (besides rank and nobility) from it.
If he has Sophia, Isabella, Raevsky, and Golitsyn, where would there be a spot for Kate? He would have to regroup Raevsky or Golitsyn, and I would rather not regroup them until Lan.
However, it's one's personal choice, and you really can't go wrong with Golitsyn.
