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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 8, 2016 20:19:58 GMT
The Japanese did alot of terrible things such as rape and massacre, somehow the flag that represent japanese act in ww2 is not banned. And the Sovjets did much worse. They had work camps similar to consentration camps and after ww2, it was all forgotten. And while i understand that the nazi flag was banned, I think imperial japanese and sovjet flag should be banned to, because alot of innocent people died under these rules, and their families hates the flags because they think of what happened to their ancestors. For example is there many people in Russia, China and Ukraine that remember what happened during ww2, so yes i think those flags should be banned to, im sure people would agree. Difference between these and the Nazi flag/Swastika: The Nazi symbols were used exclusively by the Nazis, and are associated exclusively with the Nazis, whose entire rule was almost universally despised. The Japanese flag is associated not only with Tojo's days and WWII, but with the preceding centuries, Japan's "Golden Age" of sorts. The Soviet flag is affiliated with Communism/Marxism-Leninism, which aren't as universally despised in Russia as they are in the West. There, the Soviet Regime is viewed as the government that made Russia rival the West. The association with the purges and Gulags exists, but it is only a part of the story. Don't get me wrong, the atrocities of Tojo and Stalin were awful |
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Post by Conrad von Hotzendorf on Mar 8, 2016 21:40:33 GMT
Hmmm. Why don't they use an extremely offensive symbol linked to one of the biggest genocides of the 20th century. Hmm I wonder
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Post by Horatio Nelson on Mar 9, 2016 0:09:18 GMT
Hmmm. Why don't they use an extremely offensive symbol linked to one of the biggest genocides of the 20th century. Hmm I wonder Especially when they use the other two hmmmm |
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Post by Mountbatten on Mar 9, 2016 0:18:07 GMT
Because,the answer is *Drumroll* jews bro, people can be banned for saying such things (seriously) Yeah Moreau things like that aren't allowed |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 9, 2016 1:43:15 GMT
bro, people can be banned for saying such things (seriously) Yeah Moreau things like that aren't allowed Being a Jew myself, you have seriously offended me Moreau |
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Post by Mountbatten on Mar 9, 2016 1:51:12 GMT
Yeah Moreau things like that aren't allowed Being a Jew myself, you have seriously offended me Moreau If you are serious, anybody can pm any of the mods if something actually does offend you and if it's 'illegal' forum material. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 9, 2016 2:19:48 GMT
Being a Jew myself, you have seriously offended me Moreau If you are serious, anybody can pm any of the mods if something actually does offend you and if it's 'illegal' forum material. I personally believe in second changes, so Moreau has one left before I bring it up like that |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Mar 9, 2016 3:13:23 GMT
Why should Swastika be banned but not the sovjet or the imperial Japan flag? In Germany, Austria, and Switzerland (idk about other nations) the Swastika or Hakenkreuz in German is banned for reasons besides of things such as education. I've seen a few comedy videos on YouTube showing it (from German television) but I've heard they use a camera trick or something like that. And you have to make sure to not confuse it with the symbol of luck in many cultures. For example in India it can be traced back for centuries |
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Post by Desophaeus on Mar 9, 2016 4:11:19 GMT
The Soviet Union was our WW2 ally and Stalin was the leader of it. So he would simply keep his flag but once the Union collapsed many Russians might probably remember it as a time of power. Japan also decided to not change their flag if I'm correct. Russians are actually not so brainwashed as the americans think there are actually not so many people who like the ussr only high ranked officials. And its a thing when a country loses a war and gets fully occupied, everything that is from the old country gets banned by the occupants, In Asia it was different circumstanses. Japan was willing to co-operate, even emperor Hirohito. Agreed, to the victors belongs the spoils, including how history is written. It's an unfortunate fact of life. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Mar 9, 2016 4:21:35 GMT
This thread was made by me just to ask with fellow members, but its growing to the point that I would request kanue / saltin to lock it since we aren't seeing Sherman lately |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 9, 2016 4:50:33 GMT
This thread was made by me just to ask with fellow members, but its growing to the point that I would request kanue / saltin to lock it since we aren't seeing Sherman lately I personally think that might not be necessary, but it's saltin / kanue 's call |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Mar 9, 2016 4:53:09 GMT
This thread was made by me just to ask with fellow members, but its growing to the point that I would request kanue / saltin to lock it since we aren't seeing Sherman lately I personally think that might not be necessary, but it's saltin / kanue 's call you don't know but in this forum (which is highly multiethnic) these things escalate really really quick, so the best thing you can do is to ask for a lock  |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 9, 2016 4:55:28 GMT
I personally think that might not be necessary, but it's saltin / kanue 's call you don't know but in this forum (which is highly multiethnic) these things escalate really really quick, so the best thing you can do is to ask for a lock I suppose so, since this could explode into a flame war just as easily as it would deescalate (I think I spelled that right). |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Mar 9, 2016 4:57:12 GMT
you don't know but in this forum (which is highly multiethnic) these things escalate really really quick, so the best thing you can do is to ask for a lock I suppose so, since this could explode into a flame war just as easily as it would deescalate (I think I spelled that right). yeah, that's 100% pure quality flame war material  And the spelling looks good to me |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 9, 2016 5:15:08 GMT
I suppose so, since this could explode into a flame war just as easily as it would deescalate (I think I spelled that right). yeah, that's 100% pure quality flame war material And the spelling looks good to me I guess I should use this thread as kindling for a fire next time I go camping, eh? And thanks for the OK on the spelling |
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