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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 21, 2017 19:28:56 GMT
How so? It turk hundreds of years for the Turks to overwhelm Byzantium, and Byzantium was also busy fighting Bulgarians and Crusaders. Plus foolishly expending military power on expeditions. Eh, despite all that the Turks DID kill Byzantium. It counts. Bulgar was just helping Turk LOL JK see! it does count! You did succumb to death because of the Turks Death of a thousand wounds. Or 1,123, considering the year count. It wasn't uncommon for countries to foolishly help the Turks, though most of those helpers would later get anschlussed. The Serbians for one have the distinction of being both a Byzantine ally and helping the Turks take Constantinople. |
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jun 21, 2017 19:34:31 GMT
Shall we wait another day before starting to let Hugh III of Burgundy get acquainted with the rules and mechanics and what not? two days, the date decided is the 24th. You can do some plannings till then. You never know what happens? I don't know about 2 days, I'll be busy on the 24th. |
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Post by Polenbal on Jun 21, 2017 19:52:43 GMT
How so? It turk hundreds of years for the Turks to overwhelm Byzantium, and Byzantium was also busy fighting Bulgarians and Crusaders. Plus foolishly expending military power on expeditions. Eh, despite all that the Turks DID kill Byzantium. It counts. Bulgar was just helping Turk LOL JK see! it does count! You did succumb to death because of the Turks al anquanda (?) will be iberian!!! |
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Jun 21, 2017 20:03:12 GMT
Bulgar was just helping Turk LOL JK see! it does count! You did succumb to death because of the Turks al anquanda (?) will be iberian!!! Nope, Castilian. |
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Post by Polenbal on Jun 21, 2017 20:09:29 GMT
al anquanda (?) will be iberian!!! Nope, Castilian. halve I take Valencia and Granada/ eastern Granada you take rest? |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 21, 2017 20:31:51 GMT
Bulgar was just helping Turk LOL JK see! it does count! You did succumb to death because of the Turks al anquanda (?) will be iberian!!! Al anquanda. I like it. (is actually Al Andalus) al anquanda (?) will be iberian!!! Nope, Castilian. You are aware that Iberia refers to the continent right? It doesn't matter which Iberian power wins, the point is that Iberia is being retaken. But sure, feel free to fight amongst yourselves. Its realistic I suppose. |
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Jun 21, 2017 20:35:24 GMT
al anquanda (?) will be iberian!!! Al anquanda. I like it. (is actually Al Andalus) You are aware that Iberia refers to the continent right? It doesn't matter which Iberian power wins, the point is that Iberia is being retaken. But sure, feel free to fight amongst yourselves. Its realistic I suppose. Jah, but there are three powers on the peninsula. Must Unite Iberia |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 21, 2017 20:40:33 GMT
Al anquanda. I like it. (is actually Al Andalus) You are aware that Iberia refers to the continent right? It doesn't matter which Iberian power wins, the point is that Iberia is being retaken. But sure, feel free to fight amongst yourselves. Its realistic I suppose. Jah, but there are three powers on the peninsula. Must Unite Iberia I'd suggest reclaiming it for Christianity before you expend your might killing your brothers.  |
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Jun 21, 2017 21:30:21 GMT
IRL the Almohad Caliphate were stronk and expanding in 1180 (I think the territorial greatest extent). While Portugal was relatively successful in resisting the Almohads, Castille was derisively defeated in Alacros (1195).
Almohad expansion was only stopped IRL because of a Crusade. France, Aragon, and Castille stopped Almohad expansion only after a decisive battle in 1212.
It will take a lot of force to stop Almohad expansion, let alohe destroy it.
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Post by Hugh III of Burgundy on Jun 21, 2017 21:57:05 GMT
Alexander has return. Am much surprise. Yes, I is back for conquer. |
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Post by Erich von Ludendorff on Jun 21, 2017 23:06:25 GMT
There are four countries in Iberia, out of which only two will be played. Almohad (me) and Aragon ( Polenbal) That's enough room to fight over here, unless a third guy joins in |
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Post by Erich von Ludendorff on Jun 21, 2017 23:07:23 GMT
Jah, but there are three powers on the peninsula. Must Unite Iberia I'd suggest reclaiming it for Christianity before you expend your might killing your brothers. look who's talking! The country that itself is going to die  |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jun 21, 2017 23:16:32 GMT
There are four countries in Iberia, out of which only two will be played. Almohad (me) and Aragon ( Polenbal) That's enough room to fight over here, unless a third guy joins in Actually Yi Sun Sin has Castille, so that is 3 peeps over there. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 22, 2017 1:29:35 GMT
I'd suggest reclaiming it for Christianity before you expend your might killing your brothers. look who's talking! The country that itself is going to die Supposedly it was thought by many that Byzantium would survive less than 10 years before its fall, or at least that it could. Id say thats ridiculously optimistic, but whatever. And yet you tell me that 273 years before that, and 24 years before the fourth crusade, that Its over? If we had started this game just a few years earlier... The Empire has double its population of 90 years ago, and almost as much in land, over 250,000 SQ km more than 2017 Turkey. Almost as many people as 1914 Turkey proper. This is a period of regrowth and strength, we just happen to be almost at the end of it. Note also that even after the battle of 1176 the Byzantine army fights the Turks on a nearly even footing. For now. However you are right on one thing. Both the Almohads and Byzantines are in the club of nations that people expect to die. They always skip to the end as if that's fair. Unlike the Almohads, which is just another owner of al Andalus, Byzantium can into consistent relevance. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 22, 2017 1:40:22 GMT
Also Byzantium expended its might trying to rescue its brothers, not killing them. When fighting latins that would be kinda accurate.
That feeling when Byzantium got weaker by sending expeditions to lost lands, and yet as a player you feel the urge to continue that mistake.
If Byzantium had focused on the Turks and not regaining Egypt or fighting Catholics....
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