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Post by Polenbal on May 14, 2017 19:59:29 GMT
I know its too sad :,(
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Post by best75 on May 14, 2017 21:21:27 GMT
Anybody watch the Eurovision contest this year? I only watched Azerbaijan. Good going Portugal! Land of my Godmother! Who is Hue now Von Bismarck jr ? Good job best75 , getting 2nd. Moldova ist on my eastern border IRP, so I will count that a win for the Romanian language. I don't watch it but hey good job to Bulgaria! |
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on May 14, 2017 21:46:58 GMT
At least we didn't come last...... Wait, Spain came last? Noooooooo
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on May 14, 2017 22:19:07 GMT
Anybody watch the Eurovision contest this year? I only watched Azerbaijan. Good going Portugal! Land of my Godmother! Who is Hue now Von Bismarck jr ? Good job best75 , getting 2nd. Moldova ist on my eastern border IRP, so I will count that a win for the Romanian language. I don't watch it but hey good job to Bulgaria! This is my first time taking interest in it as well. Imagine nobody else in my family cares. Holding out for that day when Scotland is in it. *gets annihilated for what seems like a political thing but is actually unrelated* |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on May 14, 2017 22:25:03 GMT
At least we didn't come last...... Wait, Spain came last? Noooooooo Remember you started with Austria. Austria coming in 16th out of what, 26? You beat 10! Heck, Hungary came in 8th. Not bad for the half nobody uses when quick-naming eh? Now, Tribunal.... 1st, 7th (Rome one-upped Hungary lol) 19th and also 21st if counting Cyprus. Cyprus no longer exists as a nation so IRL it wouldn't be in the contest by 2017. I HOPE. Yes, Tribunal did good. I even hear we finally got in the big leagues of soccer. Apparently. |
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Post by stoic on May 19, 2017 14:39:38 GMT
Washington , out of 30 million Ukrainians over 4 million served in the red army, and 250,000 in resistance groups fighting for the Soviets. Somehow I doubt there were even a fraction as many collaborators or even Nationalists who picked neither side. In fact I just read that direct collaborationist troops (policemen) were only 300,000, and thats counting all Soviets. Meanwhile apparently 80,000 Ukrainians at one point were signed up to serve with the German military in the 14th Waffen SS grenadier divison. Such happenings were common for all occupied areas. I wonder how many Russians aided the Germans during the invasion? Yet we must judge another based on the tiny minority. (or rather they argue we should) I am afraid you do not understand the the tension... For Russians and for many Ukrainians those collaborators are traitors and criminals. But for some part of Ukrainian society nowadays they are heroes... That is the difference... |
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Post by stoic on May 19, 2017 14:58:26 GMT
Btw during ww2 2089 Ukrainians were Heroes of Soviet Union (highest millitary award). That is the second largest national group after Russians... But soviet symbols are forbidden today in Ukraine, and these are allowed ria.ru/world/20140813/1019878896.html |
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