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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 15, 2017 4:35:32 GMT
That sounds like a ok Idea, putting the Aztecs or Mayans. I remembered it as "inca" and I was going to say those own no WC3 cities  The Aztecs AND Mayans correspond in WC3 terms to Mexico. Smaller actually. They COULD, in the vein of this being 1939, represent a union of USA/Canada/Brazil/Colombia with Aztec or Mayan symbol as flag. Maybe even Mexican flag (for Aztecs) though it might confuse people to see Giant Mexico. Gran Colombia runs into the same problem as the Aztecs and particularly Mayans. Its already oversized, so basically you are only making Colombia playable. OTHER than owning the Mexican side of Panama up to the Oil Rig. Big deal. Edit: forgot to mention, if Tarkin makes Aztec or whatever empire without USA flag, it will be extra work I believe. But... As for Hapsburg Empire. It depends on which one you mean. The later Hapsburg Empire only exceeds Rome in owning all of Hungary, while the Holy Roman Empire was more expanded to the north but not in the mod. So I guess it could be done, though the only current difference between Rome's conquest and Hapsburg is absorbing Hungary instead of leaving it independant. Edit: could be based on the country Hungary, owning minimum Austria Prague and Belgium. But I don't believe its realistic to represent the Dual Monarchy and particularly its ancestors as Hungarian. Anyway, so far I've found only 2 IRL allies for the Mongols. That would be the Byzantines (lol) and the French, though the French alliance if even done never resulted in action, though not for lack of trying. If putting me in one of these mods like said was possible, perfect opportunity for to place me as (plus Papagos?) General of Mongol allied Byzantium. |
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Post by Polenbal on Jun 15, 2017 6:34:31 GMT
That sounds like a ok Idea, putting the Aztecs or Mayans. I remembered it as "inca" and I was going to say those own no WC3 cities The Aztecs AND Mayans correspond in WC3 terms to Mexico. Smaller actually. They COULD, in the vein of this being 1939, represent a union of USA/Canada/Brazil/Colombia with Aztec or Mayan symbol as flag. Maybe even Mexican flag (for Aztecs) though it might confuse people to see Giant Mexico. Gran Colombia runs into the same problem as the Aztecs and particularly Mayans. Its already oversized, so basically you are only making Colombia playable. OTHER than owning the Mexican side of Panama up to the Oil Rig. Big deal. Edit: forgot to mention, if Tarkin makes Aztec or whatever empire without USA flag, it will be extra work I believe. But... As for Hapsburg Empire. It depends on which one you mean. The later Hapsburg Empire only exceeds Rome in owning all of Hungary, while the Holy Roman Empire was more expanded to the north but not in the mod. So I guess it could be done, though the only current difference between Rome's conquest and Hapsburg is absorbing Hungary instead of leaving it independant. Edit: could be based on the country Hungary, owning minimum Austria Prague and Belgium. But I don't believe its realistic to represent the Dual Monarchy and particularly its ancestors as Hungarian. Anyway, so far I've found only 2 IRL allies for the Mongols. That would be the Byzantines (lol) and the French, though the French alliance if even done never resulted in action, though not for lack of trying. If putting me in one of these mods like said was possible, perfect opportunity for to place me as (plus Papagos?) General of Mongol allied Byzantium. I get your point about them being to small but Wilhuff Tarkin can add city's can you not? |
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Post by Polenbal on Jun 15, 2017 6:38:33 GMT
Also Wilhuff Tarkin why dont you add multiple empires in the same world then you can stick to the simple 5 conquests? |
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Jun 15, 2017 8:01:58 GMT
Imperial RomeBall by Habsburg Empire I mean the time when it was under Charles V. (Spanish Empire, Seventeen Provinces, HRE, etc.)
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Post by Wilhuff Tarkin on Jun 15, 2017 15:21:31 GMT
Also Wilhuff Tarkin why dont you add multiple empires in the same world then you can stick to the simple 5 conquests? Some empires arent compatible. |
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Post by Polenbal on Jun 15, 2017 15:38:49 GMT
Also Wilhuff Tarkin why dont you add multiple empires in the same world then you can stick to the simple 5 conquests? Some empires arent compatible. I know that as it was said earlier but like maybe an americas empire and the mongols and Rome if you see what I'm saying |
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Post by Général De Gaulle on Jun 15, 2017 15:45:06 GMT
Spanish Empire is a good idea
It's the third largiest empire in the world =27,4 millions of square kilometers
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 15, 2017 17:46:30 GMT
Spanish empire is actually the fifth largest, but its still an ok Idea. It would be mostly compatible with British, Mongol, but I don't think any of the other ones, though some of its North American land was sometimes disputed by UK/France. Regardless, I imagine THIS proposal is for it to be the star of its own Conquest. In terms of cities would own Colombia, California, Cuba, Mexico, Florida, Texas, Spain, Italy south of Rome, maybe that city north of Rome, Belgium and Netherlands. Philipines. Those 1939 African regions that are in Spain already. If including the Iberian union it would own Brazil, Portugal, that silly little Portuguese African colony, and a bunch of places too small to show. If including all this PLUS Holy Roman Empire like Yi Sun Sin suggests, quite a sight. Would clearly require its own conquest. True not all empires are compatible, but some are. The Byzantines during the Mongol Empire was essentially "Istanbul" Athens, and Turkey west and north of the WC3 city Ankara. Its alliance with the Mongols was that the Mongols would help Byzantium regain Turkey. Thus if this takes place in 1939 we could assume Ankara is again in Byzantium, though that leaves the eastern city... Anyway at that time Cyprus was a Crusader Kingdom, but could be given to Byzantium since we are already taking Turkish areas and the aforementioned reconquest. Plus Crusaders weren't a total enemy of Byz. Edit: found 2 more allies of Mongol. Bulgaria and Romania appear to be Vassals of Golden Horde at one point. Darn Romania, you excel at becoming a vassal. Or at least a nation too tough to conquer outright until later in history I guess. |
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Post by Polenbal on Jun 15, 2017 19:05:09 GMT
Polen Lithuania (Keiv Riga Leningrad(?) Minsk east Prussian city) ?!?
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Jun 15, 2017 19:33:38 GMT
Polen Lithuania (Keiv Riga Leningrad(?) Minsk east Prussian city) ?!? I have a question, where are you from? Because Polen is the German spelling of Poland. I know its common in polandball but I was just wondering :> |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 15, 2017 19:37:10 GMT
Polen Lithuania (Keiv Riga Leningrad(?) Minsk east Prussian city) ?!? Not exactly one of the largest Empires, which is a criteria for Greatest. Still, at its height it was one of the premier countries of Europe. Could be a simple union of Riga and Poland, which would allow it to exist during French conquest (as major ally) During the Mongol Conquests Poland and Lithuania were separate, with their first union occurring 20 years after Mongol died as a union (but some of its successor states continued, including the Golden Horde, which was closest to Poland) STILL, both Poland and Lithuania fought the Mongols, Poland quite famously. It would be reasonable to combine Poland, Riga, maybe Minsk during the Mongol conquest (in game) Though that would result in Russia losing 2 cities, then again parts of Russia In game like Moscow were actually vassalized, though later rebelled, so a weak Russia is more realistic than not I guess. Plus Poland-Lithuania would take up the slack in fighting the mongols. Overall this could work, and would show Poland as the historically strong nation it is. I would support this union in either Mongol or French conquests, maybe more. Still understand if Tarkin says no though. Edit: Would make sense for Lithuania to own Minsk and Kiev during the Mongol conquest, as Minsk avoided Mongol rule during the invasions and chose to join Lithuania to survive them. However Kiev is already in Mongol in this conquest I believe, and while IRL Kiev joined Lithuania just before Unified Mongolia ended, it was before that a vassal of Mongolia which was fought over by the Lithuanians. Mongols would need a buff if they are losing Kiev I suppose. |
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Post by Wilhuff Tarkin on Jun 17, 2017 21:29:10 GMT
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 17, 2017 21:37:32 GMT
Wilhuff Tarkin, woah. Is this the future of this mod or another one? Not sure what how you would apply that to earth. If those generals are OP like I expect, just start around Rome and progress outward... Hey Thrawn, you are in a mod lol. *ByzantineBall is signing forms in Constantinople, but outside in the sun because's he cool like that* *several star destroyers appear above the city* ByzantineBall: Is that God? Looks bureaucratic at least. Orthodox FTW! *Thrawn exits a Lambda* ByzantineBall: Ok. Either that's the Theotokos or we need to fetch the Greek Fire. *Surface to Air Naval Battle ensues*
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Post by Wilhuff Tarkin on Jun 17, 2017 21:47:54 GMT
Wilhuff Tarkin , woah. Is this the future of this mod or another one? Not sure what how you would apply that to earth. If those generals are OP like I expect, just start around Rome and progress outward... Hey Thrawn , you are in a mod lol. *ByzantineBall is signing forms in Constantinople, but outside in the sun because's he cool like that* *several star destroyers appear above the city* ByzantineBall: Is that God? Looks bureaucratic at least. Orthodox FTW! *Thrawn exits a Lambda* ByzantineBall: Ok. Either that's the Theotokos or we need to fetch the Greek Fire. *Surface to Air Naval Battle ensues* This is in the empires mod. Only thrawn is op. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jun 18, 2017 16:09:12 GMT
Well the Imperial starfleet is a reasonable addition I guess...lol. Be interesting to see them. Général De Gaulle , Did you get yourself yet? I got him 2 days ago. His stats are great, being mostly equal to Konev but with more Air- less hybrid (Konev has equal amount of stars in Infantry) but stronger in complementing his main ability. The Downside is De Gaulle keeps his vannila skills, which are pretty bad. Konev for example gets extra damage when wounded, and when fighting Tanks. (+20% I think) However, De Gaulle is only 30% as expensive! I don't think this mod is lacking medals, but he would be a great starter general in the vannila game, having top tier stats and beating more skilled Artillery by hundreds of medals. (and having more health than many) In this game? I'm not sure he would survive until the very end (he could but would possibly be replaced) but considering its not super easy to unlock the best medal sources he still is a good starter general. Anyway I spent hours writing a treatise on probably British alliances and It deleted it....Got to do it again, if Tarkin is going to have so much free time-away from the forum. |
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