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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jun 30, 2017 23:11:44 GMT
Through Royal Marriage, the princess of the Capet Royalty is married to the Burgundians, hereby creating a Union between the two kingdoms, and making one state. Now that the issue of Capet lands is solved, I take my leave. Hugh III of Burgundy use my lands well. |
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Post by Hugh III of Burgundy on Jun 30, 2017 23:16:45 GMT
Through Royal Marriage, the princess of the Capet Royalty is married to the Burgundians, hereby creating a Union between the two kingdoms, and making one state. Now that the issue of Capet lands is solved, I take my leave. Hugh III of Burgundy use my lands well. Woah woah! Slow it down bro! Why are you dropping out? |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jun 30, 2017 23:40:53 GMT
Through Royal Marriage, the princess of the Capet Royalty is married to the Burgundians, hereby creating a Union between the two kingdoms, and making one state. Now that the issue of Capet lands is solved, I take my leave. Hugh III of Burgundy use my lands well. Lest I forget to make sure this is understood to be OOC.... OOC: Okay now on to the meat... I must raise some questions on this... it smells funny to me, the hand over of the highly contested Francia's crown and crownlands to my junior. This smacks of pettiness, vindictiveness, retaliation... in short, it seems to be done out of spitefulness. Well? Honestly, I am suspicious about this. What is going on? |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Jul 1, 2017 0:18:45 GMT
So Burgandy can just join the HRE and sudendly instantly have a good shot at being its Emperor? That's not right.
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Post by Hugh III of Burgundy on Jul 1, 2017 0:21:30 GMT
So Burgandy can just join the HRE and sudendly instantly have a good shot at being its Emperor? That's not right. Poland also joined the same time as me. Don't have anything to say about them? |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Jul 1, 2017 0:21:35 GMT
Wait Antonio Santa Anna you didn't roll for the other countries but the rules of Byz, Venice and others fall sick? I get rolling to kill the Emperor and Pope but your just randomly making other players rulers sick. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Jul 1, 2017 0:22:22 GMT
So Burgandy can just join the HRE and sudendly instantly have a good shot at being its Emperor? That's not right. Poland also joined the same time as me. Don't have anything to say about them? I though they were already in the HRE. If not then yes, I have the same objections. |
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Jul 1, 2017 0:39:16 GMT
Wait Antonio Santa Anna you didn't roll for the other countries but the rules of Byz, Venice and others fall sick? I get rolling to kill the Emperor and Pope but your just randomly making other players rulers sick. I think it's punishment for missing the deadline. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jul 1, 2017 0:52:52 GMT
Wait Antonio Santa Anna you didn't roll for the other countries but the rules of Byz, Venice and others fall sick? I get rolling to kill the Emperor and Pope but your just randomly making other players rulers sick. I think it's punishment for missing the deadline. Huh, I was going to say this makes sense, but Venice/Hungary made the 1180 one, though I guess not 1181? Byz is ok this with. Only thing it does is taking it out of my hands. The choice that is, though I was going to kill him off with a dice roll if things go south. |
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Jul 1, 2017 0:56:01 GMT
I think it's punishment for missing the deadline. Huh, I was going to say this makes sense, but Venice/Hungary made the 1180 one, though I guess not 1181? Byz is ok this with. Only thing it does is taking it out of my hands. The choice that is, though I was going to kill him off with a dice roll if things go south. Sooo... if Manuel I Komenos dies, you'll have the Angeloi? Or some sort of anarchy? |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jul 1, 2017 1:06:12 GMT
Huh, I was going to say this makes sense, but Venice/Hungary made the 1180 one, though I guess not 1181? Byz is ok this with. Only thing it does is taking it out of my hands. The choice that is, though I was going to kill him off with a dice roll if things go south. Sooo... if Manuel I Komenos dies, you'll have the Angeloi? Or some sort of anarchy? Anarchy IRL. Kinda. Nor do we skip to the Angeloi. When he died, his French Crusader Wife took power as regent due to his son being too young. However her policies were unliked and Andronikos I Kommenos rose up and took power until 1185. For multiple reasons this is undesirable. Would anyone complain if I make up a new claimant to the throne that Manuel endorses? Not like I'm playing to simulate the Death of Byzantium, though it needs to be a realistic survival. |
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Post by Hugh III of Burgundy on Jul 1, 2017 1:41:42 GMT
Through Royal Marriage, the princess of the Capet Royalty is married to the Burgundians, hereby creating a Union between the two kingdoms, and making one state. Now that the issue of Capet lands is solved, I take my leave. Hugh III of Burgundy use my lands well. If you're really gonn do this then the least I could do is give you a barony in my territory.  |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 1, 2017 1:41:53 GMT
Sooo... if Manuel I Komenos dies, you'll have the Angeloi? Or some sort of anarchy? Anarchy IRL. Kinda. Nor do we skip to the Angeloi. When he died, his French Crusader Wife took power as regent due to his son being too young. However her policies were unliked and Andronikos I Kommenos rose up and took power until 1185. For multiple reasons this is undesirable. Would anyone complain if I make up a new claimant to the throne that Manuel endorses? Not like I'm playing to simulate the Death of Byzantium, though it needs to be a realistic survival. The Byzantines actually have more of an elective option for the emperor to decide rather than outright primogentiure. It is not recognized by the Byzantines that it HAS to be the elder son, etc... So even though I may choose from my sons (creating a mess no matter which  ), but you're more so free to pick a different guy than me. |
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Post by Hugh III of Burgundy on Jul 1, 2017 1:46:25 GMT
Anarchy IRL. Kinda. Nor do we skip to the Angeloi. When he died, his French Crusader Wife took power as regent due to his son being too young. However her policies were unliked and Andronikos I Kommenos rose up and took power until 1185. For multiple reasons this is undesirable. Would anyone complain if I make up a new claimant to the throne that Manuel endorses? Not like I'm playing to simulate the Death of Byzantium, though it needs to be a realistic survival. The Byzantines actually have more of an elective option for the emperor to decide rather than outright primogentiure. It is not recognized by the Byzantines that it HAS to be the elder son, etc... So even though I may choose from my sons (creating a mess no matter which ), but you're more so free to pick a different guy than me. Troublesome sons can always be killed off leaving only the favorite. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 1, 2017 1:50:18 GMT
The Byzantines actually have more of an elective option for the emperor to decide rather than outright primogentiure. It is not recognized by the Byzantines that it HAS to be the elder son, etc... So even though I may choose from my sons (creating a mess no matter which ), but you're more so free to pick a different guy than me. Troublesome sons can always be killed off leaving only the favorite. I already punished one son. I hope to see the others straighten into a line. |
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), but you're more so free to pick a different guy than me.
