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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 6, 2017 14:31:55 GMT
I don’t know how many people here have tried a Cold War conquest, but at least as a NATO country, the difficulty is extreme. I chose France. You get absolutely swarmed by Soviet and other WTO heavy tanks, along with Polish commandos and various other infantry. In Asia, you get the same from China. I’ve only been able to fight them off thus far using top level tank (with 100 percent assault) and artillery generals (rocket artillery is a must). I sent Rommel to Africa, and took Egypt, but now the Southern European Warsaw Pact Nations are sending swarms of tanks across the Mediterranean. I suppose this is relatively accurate as far as the overwhelming numbers of tanks the Soviets had, but the difficulty level is through the roof.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Oct 6, 2017 16:19:43 GMT
The CWE was never easy to begin with (even in WC3 standards until you wemt past a certain point)
Why not try to play WTO instead? With their large no. of troops, it's better to play as them, usually.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 6, 2017 16:28:29 GMT
The CWE was never easy to begin with (even in WC3 standards until you wemt past a certain point) Why not try to play WTO instead? With their large no. of troops, it's better to play as them, usually. Because I am American and want to fight for my side, lol. I imagine it would be easier to play as the Soviets. Honestly, I kind of feel like the U.S. gets the shaft in these games. What made the U.S. so much of a threat in World War II was it’s industrial might. Once they started churning out Sherman tanks and aircraft carriers, they just overwhelmed Japan. They helped to equip European allies, them when they did land in France, they quickly outnumbered German tanks by ratios of something like 10:1. Not to mention B-17s and P-51 Mustangs crippling German industry. This has never been reflected in the WC games. They don’t get a significant advantage in resources like they probably should. And in WC4, Patton is terrible. Ah, well. I don’t want to be the whiny American any more than I already have.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 18:59:06 GMT
Unfortunately, this is almost the same if you play a WTO country. NATO countries spam missiles on your generals, which made me literally crazy in my last game.
You can go to Paris enough quickly but then, you will get literally swarmed by Spanish and American tanks. They were so numerous that I almost lost all my generals by fighting them.
Your best ally in this conquest ? The nukes. Enemies forces were so numerous that I spammed H-bombs on them.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 6, 2017 20:20:22 GMT
Unfortunately, this is almost the same if you play a WTO country. NATO countries spam missiles on your generals, which made me literally crazy in my last game. You can go to Paris enough quickly but then, you will get literally swarmed by Spanish and American tanks. They were so numerous that I almost lost all my generals by fighting them. Your best ally in this conquest ? The nukes. Enemies forces were so numerous that I spammed H-bombs on them. The area damage from H-bombs is pretty minimal, though. I feel like massed Rocket Artillery behind tank generals will be more effective. I’m using A bombs to help whittle down the strongest enemies, Rocket Artillery to further lower health of masses tanks and my 100 percent assault tank generals to clean up what is left. I put Rommel on the northern shore of Egypt, and he is one-shotting four or five units a turn with hep from Artillery as they try to land from Eastern Europe.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 6, 2017 23:19:32 GMT
Things started to change at about turn 15-20. The masses units thinned out and allies started reinforcing me. I took the initiative, pushed through Central Europe up to Leningrad and started the turn toward Moscow. Sent another army group south through Romania trying to link up with Rommel and his army that retook Egypt and is about to clear out Iraq. In the east, I used Zhukov’s Rocket Artillery to push up the Chinese west coast. I’ve taken Shanghai and Nanking. Japanese and American navies helped thin out a bunch of embarked Chinese tanks, bit it looks like I’ll have to retake the Japanese mainland (they have one city left), Korea and up to the Russian northeast coast. Guderian took a pounding defending Vietnam. I built a field hospital at Bangkok and let him heal back up to a little under half strength, and he is now pushing with supporting units through Central China. Should hopefully link up with the army about to lay siege to Moscow. It has been really tough but a lot of fun. Good, challenging conquest. Not worth trying unless you have a lot of good generals and decent tech. You’ll get overrun by the first waves of Soviet and Chinese tanks.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 7, 2017 4:10:12 GMT
Victory in 36 turns. If you can weather the initial wave of enemies, the quicker access to missiles and availability of nukes makes it easier to finish up more quickly.
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Post by Jeanne D'Arc on Oct 7, 2017 8:06:56 GMT
.org/] [/url] I took my sweet time on this one, but I'll go for a speed run on the next one; UK isn't bad, I would personally recommend it as a 3-star choice.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 7, 2017 12:56:27 GMT
I took my sweet time on this one, but I'll go for a speed run on the next one; UK isn't bad, I would personally recommend it as a 3-star choice. I went back and forth on Britain and France. Both have bases of operation in Europe, Africa and East Asia which means you don’t have to move armies across continents. Both have access to nukes. Honestly, I went with France because I think their heavy tanks look way better, lol.
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Post by kanue on Oct 7, 2017 15:22:27 GMT
It's quite the opposite for me. I feel Cold War conquest on NATO side is easier than the previous scenario. USSR is only strong in its first wave. China becomes minimal threat after I take the two port in Hong Kong and Shanghai. I could finish it with USA in 32-33 rounds using only bronze and silver, and the starting generals. Actually I did use some gold dudes like Guderian and Rommel but they didn't do anything of value. Mostly Govorov and Messe in Africa and MacArthur and other starting dudes in China.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 7, 2017 15:38:34 GMT
It's quite the opposite for me. I feel Cold War conquest on NATO side is easier than the previous scenario. USSR is only strong in its first wave. China becomes minimal threat after I take the two port in Hong Kong and Shanghai. I could finish it with USA in 32-33 rounds using only bronze and silver, and the starting generals. Actually I did use some gold dudes like Guderian and Rommel but they didn't do anything of value. Mostly Govorov and Messe in Africa and MacArthur and other starting dudes in China. United States probably has an easier time. With France, you have to defend against all those tanks before you have much of a defense built up.
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Post by kanue on Oct 8, 2017 10:40:24 GMT
It's quite the opposite for me. I feel Cold War conquest on NATO side is easier than the previous scenario. USSR is only strong in its first wave. China becomes minimal threat after I take the two port in Hong Kong and Shanghai. I could finish it with USA in 32-33 rounds using only bronze and silver, and the starting generals. Actually I did use some gold dudes like Guderian and Rommel but they didn't do anything of value. Mostly Govorov and Messe in Africa and MacArthur and other starting dudes in China. United States probably has an easier time. With France, you have to defend against all those tanks before you have much of a defense built up. Yes, USA is probably easier and can finish fast because it has access to both battlefields. For France, I accumulate resources while waiting for USSR to defeat Belgium. Then, I just use missiles + paratroopers to take Brussels, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Oslo, and Stockholm in one go since these cities walls are already crumbling. Most of the USSR troops are, by then, next to France and are too far to defend its rear. In the meanwhile, I build navies in Asia to neutralize China be capturing ports in Hong Kong and Shanghai. Anyway, I just want to say that I have an easier experience playing Cold War conquests than 1943 conquests.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 8, 2017 13:05:47 GMT
Early access to missiles makes it easier to finish faster. First go around, I tried to push quickly to confront the Soviets and was surprised by how strong they were and how much help they got from Polish commandos. I re-started, though, and accumulated resources and built up my force, letting them come to me the second time. That was much easier. Still tough to weather without good generals, though.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Oct 9, 2017 14:48:21 GMT
Early access to missiles makes it easier to finish faster. First go around, I tried to push quickly to confront the Soviets and was surprised by how strong they were and how much help they got from Polish commandos. I re-started, though, and accumulated resources and built up my force, letting them come to me the second time. That was much easier. Still tough to weather without good generals, though. Did USA send useful reinforcements if any? How about your other allies (Spain, Portugal, etc.)?
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 9, 2017 15:24:51 GMT
Early access to missiles makes it easier to finish faster. First go around, I tried to push quickly to confront the Soviets and was surprised by how strong they were and how much help they got from Polish commandos. I re-started, though, and accumulated resources and built up my force, letting them come to me the second time. That was much easier. Still tough to weather without good generals, though. Did USA send useful reinforcements if any? How about your other allies (Spain, Portugal, etc.)? The U.S. sent reinforcements to Europe, but too late to help against the initial Soviet attack wave. They did help invade Spain. What was most helpful was U.S. naval units in the Pacific. They helped clear the Chinese Navy along with Japan, which kept me from having the build a huge naval force. The most helpful allies in Europe were Spain and Britain. They send some tank support.
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