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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 9, 2017 4:13:02 GMT
While I read that a lot of you have spent a lot of medals on up to 3 beginning generals, I have seen that some people with this strategy have struggle with medals in later game, so economy is very necessary, what do you think is the best way to do so?
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Post by best75 on Oct 9, 2017 4:29:55 GMT
I think getting 3 beginning generals is too much.
I think the way to go for generals is to buy 1 beginner general like Messe, than a medium tier general that can still be useful late game like Vautin or Leeb, than aim for the endgame generals like Guderian.
If you are really skilled than I think you can skip the beginner generals and go for a medium tier general than endgame general.
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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 9, 2017 4:39:22 GMT
I think getting 3 beginning generals is too much. I think the way to go for generals is to buy 1 beginner general like Messe, than a medium tier general that can still be useful late game like Vautin or Leeb, than aim for the endgame generals like Guderian. If you are really skilled than I think you can skip the beginner generals and go for a medium tier general than endgame general. My main idea was to go right for medium as we never knew what is the situation with medals in endgame, although after what I have done and seen I think it is even really possible to get Konev as first general, it is not easy, but possible if that's the aim of somebody, which then would drop the need for mid tier general for good up to endgame, but it is not the best way as you will need some of the mid tier generals anyway |
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Post by stoic on Oct 9, 2017 4:43:10 GMT
All beginner generals have their buy-back price. The question is weather or not it is possible to cover the difference. My suspicion is that they can do this themselves. The medals for potential daily Invasions will be lost otherwise.
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Post by stoic on Oct 9, 2017 4:51:27 GMT
I have this point in mind. You can hire low-end general, use him in Missions and Invasions, and thus you can cover the difference between his price and buy-back price, then at the right moment you simply sell him without any loss...
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Post by stoic on Oct 9, 2017 5:11:24 GMT
For example, Messe can complete 5 medals Invasions without any trouble. That means he is capable to do 2-3 Invasions in 12 hours, 4-6 1n 24 hours. 20-30 medals per day! There were about 10 days since Android release. So I can sell him now without any loss on my part.
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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 9, 2017 5:15:29 GMT
And that is why it is not worth buying a low-end general, I bet I have got further without generals than some with 1-2 beginning generals, ok give them my tactics and they'll go nuclear fast, but just to make my point tactics are worth more than generals in wc4 No, I have another point in mind. You can hire low-end general, use him in Missions and Invasions, and thus you can cover the difference between his price and buy-back price, then at the right moment you simply sell him without any loss... ps We'd better go to your new thread... Yes you can hire, but it is not worth buying them as if you get medals for mid tier general that will last till end game and get those medals, you won't lose the difference |
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Post by stoic on Oct 9, 2017 5:21:58 GMT
No, I have another point in mind. You can hire low-end general, use him in Missions and Invasions, and thus you can cover the difference between his price and buy-back price, then at the right moment you simply sell him without any loss... ps We'd better go to your new thread... Yes you can hire, but it is not worth buying them as if you get medals for mid tier general that will last till end game and get those medals, you won't lose the difference But the difference is covered by daily Invasions that otherwise you are unable to do. That is the point! You can receive other resources from repeating conquests, for example. But medals for Invasions are gone for those who are aiming at top generals from the very beginning... |
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Post by stoic on Oct 9, 2017 7:41:26 GMT
And one more important point!
We receive random medals for completing daily missions. They will be more difficult (difficulty increases with HQ lvl) in time you can get one top general, and chances are high you can not complete them with only one top general alone... It can be a vicious circle, actually...
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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 9, 2017 9:08:28 GMT
And one more important point! We receive random medals for completing daily missions. They will be more difficult (difficulty increases with HQ lvl) in time you can get one top general, and chances are high you can not complete them with only one top general alone... It can be a vicious circle, actually... Well I am prepared to test that |
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Post by Singlemalt on Oct 9, 2017 9:45:09 GMT
Messe —> guderian etc.. would be my advice
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Post by kanue on Oct 9, 2017 9:57:47 GMT
I agree with best75. Having general like Messe or Leeb before going directly to Guderian can improve your life quality by quite a lot. And at some point you can also get access to Konev too. Another important factor that I want to mention is that if you have a few generals, you can start farming resources from tasks early on. As some of you may notice that gold is quite a limited resources (at least for now). Getting more gold (or other resources) means you can build more wonders, have more tasks and invasions daily, upgrade troops , and get more reward from invasions. All of these translates into having more medals. As for starter general like Messe, you can sell him back at 80% of the price which means it costs you 110 medals for having him at your service for as long as you want. At my current HQ lv 41, I get 9-12 medals per invasions, 6 invasions per refresh, or 12 per day (havent build City of Djenne yet). That means at I get about 126 medals per day, more than enough to cover the cost of Messe... and I am still using his service. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Oct 10, 2017 18:02:15 GMT
Furthermore, it's like WC3 Gen path:
You may get Bodoglio or Ozawa as useful gens if you find it tough.
OR, just skip to Govorov -> Guderian. Guderian as 1st gen for VERY hardcore players.
In WC4, I feel that getting someone recommended as 3rd/2nd slot, eg. Leeb, is a better way to proceed rather than others. Bonus points if you sucessfully gun for Guderian/Konev as 1st gen.
Otherwise, you'd be playing conquests to farm resources to beat enemy with high tech.
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Oct 11, 2017 13:47:19 GMT
Oct 9, 2017 18:57:47 GMT 9 kanue said: I agree with best75. Having general like Messe or Leeb before going directly to Guderian can improve your life quality by quite a lot. And at some point you can also get access to Konev too. Another important factor that I want to mention is that if you have a few generals, you can start farming resources from tasks early on. As some of you may notice that gold is quite a limited resources (at least for now). Getting more gold (or other resources) means you can build more wonders, have more tasks and invasions daily, upgrade troops , and get more reward from invasions. All of these translates into having more medals.
As for starter general like Messe, you can sell him back at 80% of the price which means it costs you 110 medals for having him at your service for as long as you want. At my current HQ lv 41, I get 9-12 medals per invasions, 6 invasions per refresh, or 12 per day (havent build City of Djenne yet). That means at I get about 126 medals per day, more than enough to cover the cost of Messe... and I am still using his service.
Adding to kanue's words, note that Messe's output is better then you think. The armored assult + Rumor is always a hit for me. Anyways, since this game allowed for medal farming(unlike WC3), I got messe and I don't regret it. PS: Gunning for Guderian, it's going to be tough, but not that tough. |
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Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Nov 16, 2018 1:10:58 GMT
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