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Post by USSR ball on Oct 16, 2017 12:02:10 GMT
So what do u guys think? I ask this so i can choose the best skill for his only slot in the future, dont want 2 waste any medals so pls b honest
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 16, 2017 12:40:41 GMT
When the Leader skills trigger, the damage output is incredibly high. I think they are a must for any land general.
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Post by stoic on Oct 16, 2017 12:51:05 GMT
I think to give him a team supporting skill is also a possibility... I mean Crowd tactics. It can be boosted with medal as well.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 16, 2017 14:42:13 GMT
You can also consider Rumor as a utility skill. I just have a hard time giving up the damage output.
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Post by stoic on Oct 16, 2017 14:57:39 GMT
You can also consider Rumor as a utility skill. I just have a hard time giving up the damage output. Well, if brutal force works, who needs subtle intrigues 😊 |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 16, 2017 15:33:02 GMT
You can also consider Rumor as a utility skill. I just have a hard time giving up the damage output. Well, if brutal force works, who needs subtle intrigues 😊 It depends a lot on how you are using a general. If Govorov is your Top Artillery Guy, and you give him the medals for jungle/forest warfare and Artillery Leader, he is going to put out enormous damage. If you have Konev, and Govorov is your Second Artillery commander, a skill like Rumor makes a bit more sense because without medals he is never going to match that damage output you get from Konev. Artillery can’t take many hits, so if you aren’t one-shotting everything, locking dangerous enemies down instead is a good idea. |
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Post by andrei on Oct 16, 2017 16:04:15 GMT
Well, if brutal force works, who needs subtle intrigues 😊 It depends a lot on how you are using a general. If Govorov is your Top Artillery Guy, and you give him the medals for jungle/forest warfare and Artillery Leader, he is going to put out enormous damage. If you have Konev, and Govorov is your Second Artillery commander, a skill like Rumor makes a bit more sense because without medals he is never going to match that damage output you get from Konev. Artillery can’t take many hits, so if you aren’t one-shorting everything, locking dangerous enemies down instead is a good idea. I suppose one-shoting power is not immediate even with best generals. Before You upgrade techs and generals' skills and ranks enemy generals are very dangerous. Stacked units also have quite good survivability. I think Rumor is a must for couple of team members even for land generals. Navy - for sure. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 16, 2017 17:35:08 GMT
It depends a lot on how you are using a general. If Govorov is your Top Artillery Guy, and you give him the medals for jungle/forest warfare and Artillery Leader, he is going to put out enormous damage. If you have Konev, and Govorov is your Second Artillery commander, a skill like Rumor makes a bit more sense because without medals he is never going to match that damage output you get from Konev. Artillery can’t take many hits, so if you aren’t one-shorting everything, locking dangerous enemies down instead is a good idea. I suppose one-shoting power is not immediate even with best generals. Before You upgrade techs and generals' skills and ranks enemy generals are very dangerous. Stacked units also have quite good survivability. I think Rumor is a must for couple of team members even for land generals. Navy - for sure. It is THE single most important naval ability. With land generals, the better your generals get, the more you upgrade them, the less you need Rumor. It isn’t just tank generals, either. A fully upgraded top infantry commander leading a commando unit and used properly can one-shot almost any unit on the battlefield. You really need to be pairing them up, anyway. Put an artillery general with each tank general. Rocket artillery hits biggest threat first and does splash damage to the rest. Tank general comes in and cleans everything up. Once you get 100 percent assault on tanks, you can use that strategy to wipe out half a dozen units or more in one turn with two generals. Fully upgraded tank generals with fully upgraded tech can one shot infantry even in stacks of three or four. My top tank generals can one-shot commandos. So you never hit infantry unless it is with your tank. |
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Post by andrei on Oct 16, 2017 17:46:20 GMT
I suppose one-shoting power is not immediate even with best generals. Before You upgrade techs and generals' skills and ranks enemy generals are very dangerous. Stacked units also have quite good survivability. I think Rumor is a must for couple of team members even for land generals. Navy - for sure. It is THE single most important naval ability. With land generals, the better your generals get, the more you upgrade them, the less you need Rumor. It isn’t just tank generals, either. A fully upgraded top infantry commander leading a commando unit and used properly can one-shot almost any unit on the battlefield. You really need to be pairing them up, anyway. Put an artillery general with each tank general. Rocket artillery hits biggest threat first and does splash damage to the rest. Tank general comes in and cleans everything up. Once you get 100 percent assault on tanks, you can use that strategy to wipe out half a dozen units or more in one turn with two generals. Fully upgraded tank generals with fully upgraded tech can one shot infantry even in stacks of three or four. My top tank generals can one-shot commandos. So you never hit infantry unless it is with your tank. Looks like You haven't noticed that I was speaking about not fully upgraded techs, skills and ranks. Most likely 100% chance to shoot multiple times is an end game story. I am glad You can one-shot commandos  But most players on the stage of choosing additional skill can't do that even with Guderian or Mainstein. |
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Post by stoic on Oct 16, 2017 18:03:25 GMT
What is great in WC4 is the fact that you can sell additional skills you don't like or don't need anymore. Personally I will try some strategies based on Rumor. My best tank general Vatutin will have Armored Assault instead of Blitzkrieg and in that way he will be equal to Guderian in his damage capabilities. But two other tank generals - Graziani and Rokossovsky will have a combination "Blitzkrieg - Rumor". They will start attack and Vatutin will finish it. Rumor is one of the best skills in the see, and I plan to use Graziani and Rokossovsky extensively as Navy Commanders in pure Navy missions. So that is the plan... But if it doesn't work, I simply will exchange Rumor for something more prosaic like Plain fighting...
Ps. I will upgrade Messe's Crowd tactics and give him a medal. But if something will go wrong I will sell him and Graziani, will buy Guderian instead, and will return to conventional style of play proven by others 😆
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Post by best75 on Oct 16, 2017 18:19:17 GMT
Between accuracy and artillery leader I don't think there is a "best" skill per say. You are making a choice between a consistent damage boost and a less consistent but higher damage boost. I say the choice is entirely up to your personal preference. Both of them are quite good so I don't think you can go wrong picking either of them.
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Post by stoic on Oct 16, 2017 18:24:34 GMT
Between accuracy and artillery leader I don't think there is a "best" skill per say. You are making a choice between a consistent damage boost and a less consistent but higher damage boost. I say the choice is entirely up to your personal preference. Both of them are quite good so I don't think you can go wrong picking either of them. People usually don't like to be in either/or situation. Therefore Konev is the better choice than Leeb or Govorov... |
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Post by Singlemalt on Oct 16, 2017 18:31:52 GMT
What is great in WC4 is the fact that you can sell additional skills you don't like or don't need anymore. Personally I will try some strategies based on Rumor. My best tank general Vatutin will have Armored Assault instead of Blitzkrieg and in that way he will be equal to Guderian in his damage capabilities. But two other tank generals - Graziani and Rokossovsky will have a combination "Blitzkrieg - Rumor". They will start attack and Vatutin will finish it. Rumor is one of the best skills in the see, and I plan to use Graziani and Rokossovsky extensively as Navy Commanders in pure Navy missions. So that is the plan... But if it doesn't work, I simply will exchange Rumor for something more prosaic like Plain fighting... Ps. I will upgrade Messe's Crowd tactics and give him a medal. But if something will go wrong I will sell him and Graziani, will buy Guderian instead, and will return to conventional style of play proven by others 😆 You daredevil;) As stated before.. i like the way you role! andrei is too quiet though! |
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Post by best75 on Oct 16, 2017 18:32:46 GMT
Between accuracy and artillery leader I don't think there is a "best" skill per say. You are making a choice between a consistent damage boost and a less consistent but higher damage boost. I say the choice is entirely up to your personal preference. Both of them are quite good so I don't think you can go wrong picking either of them. People usually don't like to be in either/or situation. Therefore Konev is the better choice than Leeb or Govorov... I mean in that situation it is very clear Konev is a better choice than Leeb and Govorov but between Artillery leader and accuracy I just don't think it's very clear what skill is better |
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Post by stoic on Oct 16, 2017 18:43:46 GMT
What is great in WC4 is the fact that you can sell additional skills you don't like or don't need anymore. Personally I will try some strategies based on Rumor. My best tank general Vatutin will have Armored Assault instead of Blitzkrieg and in that way he will be equal to Guderian in his damage capabilities. But two other tank generals - Graziani and Rokossovsky will have a combination "Blitzkrieg - Rumor". They will start attack and Vatutin will finish it. Rumor is one of the best skills in the see, and I plan to use Graziani and Rokossovsky extensively as Navy Commanders in pure Navy missions. So that is the plan... But if it doesn't work, I simply will exchange Rumor for something more prosaic like Plain fighting... Ps. I will upgrade Messe's Crowd tactics and give him a medal. But if something will go wrong I will sell him and Graziani, will buy Guderian instead, and will return to conventional style of play proven by others 😆 You daredevil;) As stated before.. i like the way you role! andrei is too quiet though! I'm sure he's in the game 😊 They solved problems with GP version finally, it seems. He helped me with Supply mission 6, so I make conclusions he already has all 3 IAPs and soon after we'll be able to see his back only... 😆 |
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