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Post by Henri Winkelman on Oct 24, 2017 20:52:35 GMT
I just finished upgrading rumor to lvl 5 for Nimitz and I have one spot for a skill left. I myself was thinking Sailor, Depot Ship or Wolfpack.
Which one should I get or is there a better skill for him!
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Post by andrei on Oct 24, 2017 20:59:24 GMT
I just finished upgrading rumor to lvl 5 for Nimitz and I have one spot for a skill left. I myself was thinking Sailor, Depot Ship or Wolfpack. Which one should I get or is there a better skill for him! Sailor. It works as a % to the damage. This skill affects the attack of the unit + all the attack upgrades You will research in the tech tree during Your progress in the game. Means the skill will become better and better. |
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Post by Henri Winkelman on Oct 24, 2017 21:07:08 GMT
I do have a question about wolfpack, it says that it increases the damage of surrounding ship units, this does not increase the damage of the unit with the general right? Just the ships that are next to the general.
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Post by andrei on Oct 24, 2017 21:17:39 GMT
I do have a question about wolfpack, it says that it increases the damage of surrounding ship units, this does not increase the damage of the unit with the general right? Just the ships that are next to the general. When I was testing this skill it looked like it works same way as plain/jungle fighting skill - bonus is added to the overall damage. Never cheched how it affects the unit with general, but I think it should work same way as whether there is general or not it is unit anyway  In case You mean the unit which is with the general having Wolfpack... Idk, I doubt it affects this unit as description says - surrounding units. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 24, 2017 23:24:14 GMT
I do have a question about wolfpack, it says that it increases the damage of surrounding ship units, this does not increase the damage of the unit with the general right? Just the ships that are next to the general. Wolfpack only gives damage to surrounding units. It is useful for invasions, but not so much for scenarios and conquests. I prefer Sailor. Naval units have a ton of HP, and unlike land units, they can’t park for a few turns and heal in a city with supply depot and Field Hospital. The HP bonus you get from Depot Ship is consequently pretty insignificant. A top naval general in a stacked cruiser is going to have at least 1,000 HP. The 15 HP per turn from max level Depot Ship is incredibly insignificant. |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Oct 24, 2017 23:35:37 GMT
Don't worry, I will test skills. Planning on firing Guderian 100 times to get pz leader output, default output, on and on and on. It will be painful, but I found so much help from you guys I want to contribute in some way.
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Oct 24, 2017 23:38:28 GMT
Anyways Depotship could be nice as there are no ways for a ship to heal.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 25, 2017 0:07:44 GMT
Anyways Depotship could be nice as there are no ways for a ship to heal. At max level, it would take 4-5 turns to recover the damage suffered from one hit by an enemy with no general attached. I think naval units get such ridiculous HP because they have no way of healing. When you are maxed out, you get over 1,600 HP with a general in a stacked cruiser. The 15 HP from depot ship is less than 1 percent of your total health. I don’t see any way that will compare to the 30 percent damage buff you get on every retaliation from max level sailor. That can add up to hundreds of points of damage pretty quickly, particularly when you are holding a port. |
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Post by War Master on Oct 25, 2017 1:29:09 GMT
Nimitz has a very high damage when it comes to the Fatal blow which was around 194 damages. That is freaking OP for a Naval General.
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Post by stoic on Oct 25, 2017 4:19:57 GMT
Sailor and Rumor I would say are two excellent additional skills...
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Oct 25, 2017 5:02:38 GMT
Anyways Depotship could be nice as there are no ways for a ship to heal. At max level, it would take 4-5 turns to recover the damage suffered from one hit by an enemy with no general attached. I think naval units get such ridiculous HP because they have no way of healing. When you are maxed out, you get over 1,600 HP with a general in a stacked cruiser. The 15 HP from depot ship is less than 1 percent of your total health. I don’t see any way that will compare to the 30 percent damage buff you get on every retaliation from max level sailor. That can add up to hundreds of points of damage pretty quickly, particularly when you are holding a port. But if you have Nimitz on a sub, heavily damaged in a conquest, you can quickly heal as you travel to asia. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 25, 2017 7:13:35 GMT
At max level, it would take 4-5 turns to recover the damage suffered from one hit by an enemy with no general attached. I think naval units get such ridiculous HP because they have no way of healing. When you are maxed out, you get over 1,600 HP with a general in a stacked cruiser. The 15 HP from depot ship is less than 1 percent of your total health. I don’t see any way that will compare to the 30 percent damage buff you get on every retaliation from max level sailor. That can add up to hundreds of points of damage pretty quickly, particularly when you are holding a port. But if you have Nimitz on a sub, heavily damaged in a conquest, you can quickly heal as you travel to asia. Even in a stacked sub, it’s a pretty small amount of HP. I don’t think it’s a terrible ability, but I think it’s hard to choose it over Sailor. |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Oct 25, 2017 7:18:03 GMT
Even in a stacked sub, it’s a pretty small amount of HP. I don’t think it’s a terrible ability, but I think it’s hard to choose it over Sailor. Btw, I dbout leader is a good skill to choose over depot ship. See the experiments thread for more details. I want your opinion  |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 25, 2017 8:17:56 GMT
Even in a stacked sub, it’s a pretty small amount of HP. I don’t think it’s a terrible ability, but I think it’s hard to choose it over Sailor. Btw, I dbout leader is a good skill to choose over depot ship. See the experiments thread for more details. I want your opinion Yeah, something odd about those numbers. My Leader hits consistently give larger bonuses regardless of what unit type it is. |
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